Drinking and driving
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Everyone who drinks and drives are effing a-holes. They don't deserve to live.
From personal experience.
From personal experience.
Lots of people do though, more drink alcohol than juice, coke or water and the parking lots are full of vehicles. Many clubs are far from transit and cabs can be expensive if you live a long way.
I know I used to be wasted on my drive home years ago when I was young and stupid, it was seen as normal among my friends.
I know I used to be wasted on my drive home years ago when I was young and stupid, it was seen as normal among my friends.
In my view, Drinking and driving is a stupid thing to do. Drink water or pop if you're out night clubbing with friends; have another person who hasn't been drinking drive you and your friends home; or if need be, sleep in your car for the night. Sincerely, Jon .
acutus said:
I know I'll probably be flamed for this, but if I may offer a different perspective:
How is driving while drunk so different than driving while talking on the cell phone, playing with the stereo, eating, putting on make-up, etc. Why is drunk driving singled out as the only thing which will cause a car accident? Or should all those other activities that people do while driving be illegal too?
People have different reactions to alcohol. If you can drive safely and obey all traffic laws while drunk, why should you be prosecuted for a crime?
How about this? If you kill or injure someone with your car, you get life in prison. No parole, no insanity plea, no difference between manslaughter or murder. Whatever money or assets you have will be given to the victim. Otherwise, no victim, no crime.
You've raised some interesting points, Mr. High Roller. I would argue that the distinction from the kinds of careless behaviours while driving that you've mentioned and drinking and/or using drugs and driving, is that alcohol and drugs are known to impair judgement, slow reaction times and impede motor skills and co-ordination. I believe that one could more easily 'recover' their awareness from the distractions of a phone conversation than from the effects of drugs or alcohol while operating a motor vehicle. As far as the individuals who appear to be able to drive safely while impaired; I would argue that the rules must be applied equally and fairly for everyone so that no exceptions can be made beyond the now standard amount of alcohol legally allowed in the system while driving. I think that everyone has at one time or another been appalled at the lenient sentences handed down to the individuals who have killed or seriously injured another innocent person while driving when impaired. In my view, Tougher sentences and serious jail time for the individuals who kill and/or maim while impaired when driving would not only function to more Justly punish the perpetrators but woud also serve as a deterent to all of us who can clearly make the right choice regarding the responsible use of a motor vehicle.High_Roller said:
Unfortunately, sometimes it isn't. No word yet on the stats for drunk drivers who are also eating while talking on the cell phone.High_Roller said:
http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2006/06/29/hscout533489.html
High_Roller said:
Buddy,
You are one sick individual, you hear about it time-and-time again about drunk drivers killing the innocent victim. So if he made it home okay, then he's safe to do it again, and maybe kill someone the second time?????
I was almost killed by a drunk driver. My car was a right off, but his had minor damage(it was a t-bone). The guy blew .318 the first time, and .324 the second. Maybe if you were involved in something like that, you would think VERY differently.....
For anyone who admits to driving after 4 or more....get your head checked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
High_Roller said:
You raise an interesting point. From the standpont of being against the concept of drinking and driving, I agree with your point that the crime should be broken traffic laws not the "chance" of breaking traffic laws. Should people driving muscle cars get tickets because they have an increased chance of speeding.
High_Roller said:
How about this? Don't drink and drive. Then, "if you kill or injure someone" no one can blame your stupidly misplaced confidence that you could beat the odds, when they're weeping at the funeral of your victim. Haviing a drink and then getting behind the wheel is a smart as russian roulette and as coldblooded as a mob hit.
I thought your premise was based on you driving, "safely and obey[ing] all the traffic laws while drunk". So what caused this accident? God? How about this? Any accident with any detectable blood alcohol level in the driver, injuries or not, no more license. Ever. Demonstrably unqualified to judge his own ability, to control a vehicle and to assess risk as well as traffic conditions. And after serving the jail sentence appropriate for "menacing with a weapon", of course.
I've heard of a report on the news that no matter your size (yes it does matter), one drink will still affect you. Obviously, not as much if you had more. I do admit that I had 1-2 drinks before driving, but I pace myself and always get some food afterwards. D & D is just irresponsible, and I think that the OPP should have more checks at the entrances to the DVP.
I also agree with High_Roller, that people are also dangerour when they talk on their cell phones and drive. I myself was almost hit by a minivan when I was walking because the driver decides to do a rolling stop.
I also agree with High_Roller, that people are also dangerour when they talk on their cell phones and drive. I myself was almost hit by a minivan when I was walking because the driver decides to do a rolling stop.
has anyone ever seen the Mythbusters episode when they tested this?
Drinking & Driving vs Cell Phone Talking & Driving?
It was a while ago, but from what recall they were very similiar in terms of results, which were both negative obviously.
Drinking & Driving vs Cell Phone Talking & Driving?
It was a while ago, but from what recall they were very similiar in terms of results, which were both negative obviously.
How 'bout this? You're standing there dazed in the flashes from the ambulence lights, looking at the EMS guys loading up the unconscious—maybe dead—driver of the other car in the 'accident' you just were in. You had a drink then drove/were talking on your cell/reaching for the cigarette lighter…, whatever it was that you decided to do instead of giving 100% concentration to the serious job of driving. Now tell us you think it was OK.the_big_E said:
You may very well be "okay" but how about the other guy? You have to drive as if all the other cars were being driven by idiots, 'cause thems the odds, and they're against you every time you get behind the wheel. Why would you ever choose to make them even a teensy bit possibly worse?
We can only hope is that those criminally* stupid enough to believe they "can handle it" remove themselves from the gene pool before they reproduce.
*It is a criminal offence to drive with more than .08, 'drunk' or not; you'll have a criminal record; you could be barred from travel to the US and other countries until you get a pardon from them following your Canadian pardon—which takes years and is not automatic.
A couple of thoughts:
I talked to a cop about this. He figured for someone of my size, one drink at dinner (or in a bar) over about an hour should be okay. The problem is if it goes to 1 1/2 or two. Also, if you find yourself doing things you normally wouldn't, it is a sign you've had too much. I ration myself to one drink when I stop into a bar, or at dinner if I'm driving. If I'm out for an evening, I may have two over a couple of hours with an extra hour thrown in. Not worth the hassle of an accident or a drunk driving charge.
I talked to a cop about this. He figured for someone of my size, one drink at dinner (or in a bar) over about an hour should be okay. The problem is if it goes to 1 1/2 or two. Also, if you find yourself doing things you normally wouldn't, it is a sign you've had too much. I ration myself to one drink when I stop into a bar, or at dinner if I'm driving. If I'm out for an evening, I may have two over a couple of hours with an extra hour thrown in. Not worth the hassle of an accident or a drunk driving charge.
Take the Server Intervention Programme if you want to know just what your limits reasonably are.
Most people metabolize a shot/beer/glass of wine in about an hour.
Most people metabolize a shot/beer/glass of wine in about an hour.
