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Skoob

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For those on this thread who continue to fear monger and spread misinformation about Ontario Place...

Parkland:
In the lease, Therme has committed to creating almost 16 acres of new parkland facility, which amounts to roughly 20 football fields. The new parkland, the province said, would more than double the size of Trillium Park, which currently sits at the site.

Trees being cut down:

“All trees are replaced at a two-to-one ratio, and mature trees are going to be replaced at a six-to-one ratio,” Lindsay said. “The net effect of all this is 1,300 additional trees.”

Financial benefits:

Lots of them and more info about this can be found here:

https://globalnews.ca/news/10792487/ontario-place-lease-released/#:~:text=“All trees are replaced at,this is 1,300 additional trees.”
 

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For those on this thread who continue to fear monger and spread misinformation about Ontario Place...

Parkland:
In the lease, Therme has committed to creating almost 16 acres of new parkland facility, which amounts to roughly 20 football fields. The new parkland, the province said, would more than double the size of Trillium Park, which currently sits at the site.

Trees being cut down:

“All trees are replaced at a two-to-one ratio, and mature trees are going to be replaced at a six-to-one ratio,” Lindsay said. “The net effect of all this is 1,300 additional trees.”

Financial benefits:

Lots of them and more info about this can be found here:

https://globalnews.ca/news/10792487/ontario-place-lease-released/#:~:text=“All trees are replaced at,this is 1,300 additional trees.”
^^^^^

Let me guess Fankie. All lies?
 
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No matter who gets there they all screw Ontario. No matter if it provincial or federal. These days politicians don’t take care of the seniors or Canadians.
 

roddermac

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Frankie put me on ignore because he couldn't deal with the truth about his shame & failure.
In other words...I broke him.
Pity.

Now he can lie and spread misinformation without being constantly proven wrong by me.
He's happier that way.
No he put you on ignore because he doesn't know how to read :LOL:
 
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Skoob

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I guess you didn't read the link he attached, which explains the plan for increasing the number of trees. Easier for you to make up false claims I guess. It's what you do best.
Shhhhh...with every fact presented to Frankfooter, it takes away one more opportunity for him to peddle bullshit and makes him grumpy.
 

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I guess you didn't read the link he attached, which explains the plan for increasing the number of trees. Easier for you to make up false claims I guess. It's what you do best.
Skoob posts DoFo press releases as if they are fact.
 

Skoob

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For those on this thread who continue to fear monger and spread misinformation about Ontario Place...

Parkland:
In the lease, Therme has committed to creating almost 16 acres of new parkland facility, which amounts to roughly 20 football fields. The new parkland, the province said, would more than double the size of Trillium Park, which currently sits at the site.

Trees being cut down:

“All trees are replaced at a two-to-one ratio, and mature trees are going to be replaced at a six-to-one ratio,” Lindsay said. “The net effect of all this is 1,300 additional trees.”

Financial benefits:

Lots of them and more info about this can be found here:

https://globalnews.ca/news/10792487/ontario-place-lease-released/#:~:text=“All trees are replaced at,this is 1,300 additional trees.”
For those here who seem to want to peddle more misinformation about this and claim it's not fact...the government released the lease details.
Not a press release...THE lease agreement.
I provided one link from Global News about it and it's not just a "press release" as the DoFo misinformation spreader trolls want you to believe.

If I have to do extra work to provide a link to the actual lease agreement that somehow the lazy trolls can't find on their own then I'll provide it as well.
https://www.infrastructureontario.c...f94da88c78b5/ontario-place---therme-lease.pdf
 

Anbarandy

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For those on this thread who continue to fear monger and spread misinformation about Ontario Place...

Parkland:
In the lease, Therme has committed to creating almost 16 acres of new parkland facility, which amounts to roughly 20 football fields.
For those on this thread and in Thug's government who can't calculate and spread disinformation about Thug's Place .....

..... 16 acres does not amount to roughly 20 football fields. This disinformation is inflated by roughly 54%.

Makes you wonder just how much disinformation and outright lies are peppered throughout the business case allegedly buttressing this lease and for the entirety of Thug's place handover of the public realm and good to his private interest masters.
 
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Skoob

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For those on this thread and in Thug's government who can't calculate and spread disinformation about Thug's Place .....

..... 16 acres does not amount to roughly 20 football fields. This disinformation is inflated by roughly 54%.

Makes you wonder just how much disinformation and outright lies are peppered throughout the business case allegedly buttressing this lease and for the entirety of Thug's place handover of the public realm and good to his private interest masters.
For a year you've been crying about no details being released.
Now details are released and you're crying about semantics.

Proof you're just looking for things to satisfy your confirmation bias and are in withdrawal now.
 

Anbarandy

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For a year you've been crying about no details being released.
Now details are released and you're crying about semantics.

Proof you're just looking for things to satisfy your confirmation bias and are in withdrawal now.
Just through a quick perusal of the extremely rosy assumptions, projections. hopes, wishes and dreams splayed out there by Thug's government regarding Thug's Place we can ascertain that:

1) Thug wishes and dreams that Therme will pay close to $2billion in rent and maintenance over the 95-year lease term. Remember those are thug's hopes, wishes and dreams and not reality.

2) The Thug has already spent "hundreds of millions of dollars" for site preparation which is still ongoing and not complete. Let's say this "hundreds of millions" is around $500million.

3) Then there is the matter that the Thug is contractually obligated to build/find 1800 parking spots. At first, he just flippantly stated we'll build a fish tank submersible parking garage in the lake, but for "car drivers", with glass walls so that fishies and scuba divers can look into to see the thousands of cars stacked inside like sardines.

4) Then it dawned on this dimwitted, dunderhead that the cost of the fish tank for cars would be $700million plus, plus so he is proposing a monster, multi-multi level above ground parking garage monstrosity be foisted upon the CNE grounds and the City of Toronto.

5) Guess what? The City of Toronto and the CNE are not playing ball. You wanna garage, then underground the to be demolished Better Living Center it be.

6) Cost, $500million plus fees, taxes and royalties to the City of Toronto and the CNE plus site enhancements.

7) Therme is to spend $200million on parkland.

8) So let's look at what we gotz so far:

Thug's hopes, wishes and dreams for Therme rent and maintenance payments of almost 100 years plus Thermes parkland cost equals $2.2billion.

Minus $500million spent by the Thug thus far on site preparation.

Minus $500million to be spent on an underground parking garage.

Which leaves the Thugs with net $1.2billion spread over 100 years which equals $12million a year as Thug's most fervent hopes, wishes and dreams.

But remember $12million a year when accounting for inflation over a 100-year period at just 2% inflation renders that $12million a year into peanuts.

All rosy projections underlying The Thug's hopes, wishes and dreams that he has hit the jackpot with a glass enclosed Eiffel Tower of a waterpark ham-fisted onto public lands on the lake.

But, it's Thug crap like the following ......

"The first, minimum rent, will be 3.5 per cent of the assessed value of Ontario Place, indexed to inflation and estimated to be $1.95 million in 2032.
In years when the company brings in higher revenues, beginning in 2034, it will also pay a so-called performance rent, which the government calculates could be an extra $2.07 million per year.
Between 2034 and 2044, the government expects Therme to pay $84 million: $47 million in rent and $37 million in maintenance payments."


.... that should really make you wholly doubt the Thug's rosy, hopes, wishes and dreams because they do not mesh with his orgasmic 100 year projections.
 
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Skoob

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Just through a quick perusal of the extremely rosy assumptions, projections. hopes, wishes and dreams splayed out there by Thug's government regarding Thug's Place we can ascertain that:

1) Thug wishes and dreams that Therme will pay close to $2billion in rent and maintenance over the 95-year lease term. Remember those are thug's hopes, wishes and dreams and not reality.

2) The Thug has already spent "hundreds of millions of dollars" for site preparation which is still ongoing and not complete. Let's say this "hundreds of millions" is around $500million.

3) Then there is the matter that the Thug is contractually obligated to build/find 1800 parking spots. At first, he just flippantly stated we'll build a fish tank submersible parking garage in the lake, but for "car drivers", with glass walls so that fishies and scuba divers can look into to see the thousands of cars stacked inside like sardines.

4) Then it dawned on this dimwitted, dunderhead that the cost of the fish tank for cars would be $700million plus, plus so he is proposing a monster, multi-multi level above ground parking garage monstrosity be foisted upon the CNE grounds and the City of Toronto.

5) Guess what? The City of Toronto and the CNE are not playing ball. You wanna garage, then underground the to be demolished Better Living Center it be.

6) Cost, $500million plus fees, taxes and royalties to the City of Toronto and the CNE plus site enhancements.

7) Therme is to spend $200million on parkland.

8) So let's look at what we gotz so far:

Thug's hopes, wishes and dreams for Therme rent and maintenance payments of almost 100 years plus Thermes parkland cost equals $2.2billion.

Minus $500million spent by the Thug thus far on site preparation.

Minus $500million to be spent on an underground parking garage.

Which leaves the Thugs with net $1.2billion spread over 100 years which equals $12million a year as Thug's most fervent hopes, wishes and dreams.

But remember $12million a year when accounting for inflation over a 100-year period at just 2% inflation renders that $12million a year into peanuts.

All rosy projections underlying The Thug's hopes, wishes and dreams that he has hit the jackpot with a glass enclosed Eiffel Tower of a waterpark ham-fisted onto public lands on the lake.

But, it's Thug crap like the following ......

"The first, minimum rent, will be 3.5 per cent of the assessed value of Ontario Place, indexed to inflation and estimated to be $1.95 million in 2032.
In years when the company brings in higher revenues, beginning in 2034, it will also pay a so-called performance rent, which the government calculates could be an extra $2.07 million per year.
Between 2034 and 2044, the government expects Therme to pay $84 million: $47 million in rent and $37 million in maintenance payments."


.... that should really make you wholly doubt the Thug's rosy, hopes, wishes and dreams because they do not mesh with his orgasmic 100 year projections.
Sounds like you have a problem with facts...and math...and internal rage.

Like I said, you cried about having no details...the details go against your narrative, now you're making assumptions to suit your narrative and crying about other things.

I on the other hand always maintained that I would reserve judgement until details were released...you couldn't get your biased head around that and started making confirmation-biased fueled assumptions.

You were wrong.

So now you create an imaginary story not based on fact but on your own perceptions driven by hate.

This is a good plan and you know it. If it was put forward by one of your preferred parties you would be stroking their cocks.
 

Skoob

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Wasn't he called our own version of Trump?
Why because he's a white conservative man in politics or because that's what liberals say about anyone that doesn't share their same opinions?

(Now get ready for you and other here to get triggered)...........................Ford is the best Premier Ontario has ever had!!!! "Ford More Years!!!!"
 
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