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An opinion article from a relationship writer at the Globe and Mail.

Last week, I told a reader seeking sex advice to “never, ever – ever! – go the prostitution route. He had been given the “green light” from his wife, who has admitted to a low libido, to have casual, non-monogamous sex. I urged him to try harder with his wife, but, if he had to, seek a casual arrangement with a willing party on the Internet.

“Repeat after me,” I said, “do not pay a woman for sex.”

The contrarian responses were fast and furious: If he’s looking for sex without the emotions, the e-mails and online comments and phone calls argued, a professional, monetary transaction is the way to go.

“It’s nonsense,” writes bademlio, “about it being safer to sleep with some slutty chick than with a prostitute at a good bordello.”

“A real person,” writes MellissaW, “creates a possibility of an emotional attachment/affair – that’s way more dangerous and would make me way more jealous.”

“If you're good at something you might as well get paid for it! Everyone has a talent!” chirped an old friend, while another questioned my journalistic integrity to even broach such a sensitive topic.

“It’s the oldest profession in history,” my best friend argued. “You can’t say these women don’t enjoy what they do.”

I had not a clue this would cause an uproar. I thought most people were on the same page – I mean, we’re talking about reducing someone’s daughter to a paid means for sexual enjoyment. So I felt it important to clarify, to dig deeper into these pro-prostitution beliefs that had rattled me for days.

Let’s be clear: This debate isn’t about the criminality of sex work, a heavy and complex subject filled with grey areas – that’s a matter for the Supreme Court of Canada, which is currently battling all sides of the debate.

At issue is what values embody worthwhile sex, and my philosophy is this: Whether it happens during a one-night stand, a summer fling, a friends-with-benefit arrangement or a life-long marriage, there must be a base human connection – two willing, interested humans agreeing to a good time – and a special, intimate experience.

“There’s an element of trust, safety, respect with any sexual partner,” agrees Dr. Stephen de Wit, a sexologist I talked to last week about what makes good sex (and with a PhD in human sexuality, he knows a thing or two about good sex). Even a casual, Internet-brokered one-night stand would be good for my reader in need, de Wit says.

“You’ve entered into some sort of arrangement or relationship with that person; you’re still caring about each other for that one night, or that one orgasm, whatever that is.”

So putting a monetary value to this encounter, like getting your carpets cleaned or your nails done, removes all the fun. She’s not there because she finds you attractive, charming or seductive, so what’s the point? The reader may not be looking for love – but he is looking for good, mind-blowing sex.

Full confession time: I’ve never been into a strip club, for related reasons: I’d likely end up talking the ladies into attending night school, or walking my dog for a nominal fee.

Yes, I write this from my middle-class pedestal. I’ve never fallen on life-threatening hard times, but I know this: Women, every single one of them, are worth more than their bodies. In an ideal world, everyone would see that.

But clearly, I’m a newbie in this world. In the interest of exploring all sides of the debate, I tracked down a friend-of-a-Facebook-friend who agreed to talk to me about his experience with prostitutes – or “prosties” as he called them – and why he frequents a Toronto brothel.

Tim, a divorced 48-year-old from Mississauga who hasn’t had free sex in over six months, met me at a pub. I was shocked at how easy it was to find someone with personal experience and didn’t know exactly what to ask. Thankfully, he wanted to share.

“I treat myself like every four weeks as a last resort,” he says, in the same tone he orders a burger. “It’s better than porn or easier than attempting to pick up at a bar.”

He admits that “regular sex” would be a better option, but says it’s difficult to meet people in his circles. Still, “doing it with someone I see a lot … that’d be better I guess.”

He tells me about his lost love, his ex-wife. His eyes light up when he talks about their honeymoon heat – but they darken again when the conversation turns. He starts ranting about one lady in particular at the “house” he frequents. His emotional attachment to her is clear (“she’s pretty and really sweet, you’d like her, I swear”) and he genuinely thinks she cares about him. My stomach sinks.

“She’s been with others that day, that doesn’t bother you? What about your safety?” I sheepishly ask, thinking back to commenters who disagreed with my claim that prostitution was unsafe.

Tim’s response is quick, and blunt: He uses protection, but admits, “when I get to that point and I’m there, I’m not worried about safety.”

When Tim and I part ways, I walk home, confident in my original advice, but saddened for those who can’t avoid prostitution. The decision to pay someone for sex not only diminishes the act, I think to myself, but devalues both parties involved.

Repeat after me…
 

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Ridiculous. The act is the act. What she's talking about are all the feelings and connections that can accompany and surround the act, but without mentioning once that these other things can easily be as negative as they can be positive. Particularly with the casual one-night stand she is willing to reduce 'free sex' to while still saying it's still superior, there can easily be a misalignment of expectations and standards that can leave one or both parties unsatisfied, unhappy or even suffering. While it could also be the case in a paid encounter, the likelihood is that both parties are expecting two simple exchanges and that's that. However absolutely nothing but the next appointment precludes any and all the connection and fun that any two strangers connecting briefly can have. What's dough got to do with it?, as I kept hearing Tina Turner sing.

The only aspect that I can see that can easily be part of a casual encounter and is pretty much ruled out of the paid-for is the spark that ignites a longer, more permanent connection. But that's a bit like saying you must never buy oysters that have been shucked 'cause you'll miss out on the possible pearl. And clearly this advice columnist must have hated Pretty Woman. If spontaneous love and soulmates connecting happen the way she seems to imagine, then the guy'll get a refund. Somehow. After a bit of a story. An even juicier one if any brief partner—paid or unpaid—connects with the columnist's married client.

Although Julia Roberts is likely too old now for the film.

PS: Ooops. Like the columnist I shortchanged safety. The old saying: You're having sex with everyone your partner ever did doesn't mention money, because it's irrelevant. One-time sex is always dicey, and always needs protective measures. Fools are just as common maybe more so in non-professional ranks. And no one stops to find out if that's a boyfriend or a pimp if that's the danger we're looking at, but at least a pimp has a price.
 

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The problem is then ... why don't old, married people have sex?

Clearly, they love each other and have an emotional bond.

So, the writer is correct in that people in a relationship do have sex, but the sex is but one part of the relationship.

Without the relationship, there's still a biological need for sex; it's not as dire a need as the need to eat food, but it's still there.

And as long as there's a demand, there's a supply.
 

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The only aspect that I can see that can easily be part of a casual encounter and is pretty much ruled out of the paid-for is the spark that ignites a longer, more permanent connection.
As the person she "advised" was married I found it odd that she would suggest that this type of permanent connection would be better for him for his outside of marriage sex rather than a paid transaction that would be over once the act was done. He was looking for some lust, not love.
 

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I support the Globe columnist's opinion. I'll pick a woman I want to have sex with and then the columnist can convince that woman to have sex with me for free. ...

Also, to be crass, does this mean that if I take a woman out for an expensive meal and we wind up back at my place, she has to return half the cost of dinner right after we've had sex?
 

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I have to say I think completely opposite to the G&M article.

I don't think paying someone for sex diminishes the act. I pay them because I respect them, I respect a hard job well done.

It's just like when we go to work we all get paid. It's because our employers acknowledge our effort and provide something back to us. If we think us being paid is diminishing then we all should either quit or work for free.

Nothing is free in this world. In those "casual" encounters without money involved you can very easily be paying something with much much higher price....
 

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"The decision to pay someone for sex not only diminishes the act, I think to myself, but devalues both parties involved."
Yeah, I'll try that one with every service provider, MP, dancer ..... I don't want to pay you because I don't want to devalue you as a person. Maybe it will work with the barber, the house painter, maid service and anyone offering a service to earn money for survival.

Your SO can cook for you as part of an ongoing relationship. When you go out to eat in a restaurant for a change of flavour are you cheating ? The fact that you are paying for an exotic taste treat devalues you and the restaurant chef because money is involved ?
 

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It's interesting that pretty much 90% of the comments (currently 352 of them!) disagree with her...
 

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this is the type of relationship I have with my clients. I'm still trying to figure out why people think there's something wrong with this.
You mean some guys don't you? I think the ladies and some men do get it, but some guys just don't.
 

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Let's face it, for centuries, women have been using sex as a weapon against men.

If the wife is pissed off for some god knows why reason, they withhold sex and reduce the man to a squeaking gerbil begging for ass until he more than caves in.

Ah, but how well does that ages old tactic work if a simple monetary exchange takes away all the poison. $250.00 and it all goes away. No need for the man to beg on his knees. Call girls take all the power away from women and these days, call girls are more and more readily available, better looking than ever, and providing better service than ever. (The much vaunted "Girlfriend Experience".)

So, why do you think that women despise prostitutes so much? Women hate prostitutes because they take away their power over men, not because of any other esoteric reason that this journalist may want you to believe. It's all about control and power.
 

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Let's face it, for centuries, women have been using sex as a weapon against men.

If the wife is pissed off for some god knows why reason, they withhold sex and reduce the man to a squeaking gerbil begging for ass until he more than caves in.

Ah, but how well does that ages old tactic work if a simple monetary exchange takes away all the poison. $250.00 and it all goes away. No need for the man to beg on his knees. Call girls take all the power away from women and these days, call girls are more and more readily available, better looking than ever, and providing better service than ever. (The much vaunted "Girlfriend Experience".)

So, why do you think that women despise prostitutes so much? Women hate prostitutes because they take away their power over men, not because of any other esoteric reason that this journalist may want you to believe. It's all about control and power.

Bingo! :amen:
 

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Bingo! :amen:

P.S. Marriage vows include for better or for worse. If the wife is pissed because she doesn't have her way and withholds sex to get her way, she disrupts the conjugal relationship. If the guy has no choice but to hobby due to her denials, then he's somewhat justified I would think.
 

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If I want conversation I would go to a bar, or join a club. When I need to get laid, I go and do so.
The article is full of crap. Tell me when the world changes.
 

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P.S. Marriage vows include for better or for worse. If the wife is pissed because she doesn't have her way and withholds sex to get her way, she disrupts the conjugal relationship. If the guy has no choice but to hobby due to her denials, then he's somewhat justified I would think.
The way it read to me was his wife has given him (the person she originally gave the advice to) the go ahead for some out of marriage orgasms.
 

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P.S. Marriage vows include for better or for worse. If the wife is pissed because she doesn't have her way and withholds sex to get her way, she disrupts the conjugal relationship. If the guy has no choice but to hobby due to her denials, then he's somewhat justified I would think.
My thought is that don't bother getting married or be in a serious relationship if you want to sleep around. It makes things a lot less messy. Sneaking around is just a pain. If you must hobby while married, prepare to be caught. Marriage is one of those old traditions that just don't make sense any more.
 

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I think the article is good advice - for people who read The Globe and Mail.

'Sex without love and commitment is like a club sandwich without a sprig of watercress'. - bobistheowl
 

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Yes, I write this from my middle-class pedestal. I’ve never fallen on life-threatening hard times, but I know this: Women, every single one of them, are worth more than their bodies. In an ideal world, everyone would see that.
This is the most relevant part of her opinion. She is a self-absorbed, entitled, cute girl who got everything handed to her, including her "relationship writer" job.

'Sex without love and commitment is like a club sandwich without a sprig of watercress'. - bobistheowl
Not bad!
 
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