Don't drive shitefaced.

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When the message is so important, honey is always better than vinegar.

Since spring of 2020, MADD Canada has a new President. If you have seen some of the commercials, you already knew what she looks like.

Jamie Lynne Hancock.

 

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I think that I like the interviewer better.
 

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Such a simple concept, yet so many fail.

And with all the available services such as Uber, Lyft, designater driver services - there's no excuse for driving while impared.
 

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Such a simple concept, yet so many fail.
Most people don't set out to drink and drive. The problem is, alcohol impairs your judgement, so you think you're okay to drive, but you're not. Of course there's the alcoholics and repeat offenders who simply don't care. But for the rest, it's really that simple for the vast majority who drink and drive.

To me, Madd has good intentions but if they had their way, they would ban alcohol altogether.

The group called for mandatory provisions in all divorce and separation cases where children are involved which would prohibit either parent from driving after having a drink, even one. If caught, MADD mandated both incarceration and termination of parental rights.
 

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Majority of people know very well what's about to transpire when they go to a bar or a party. The dilemma is that even the most intelligent are not being proactive enough in terms of planning.

Drinking is the root of a lot of evil, so banning it isn't such a bad idea. Perhaps step one would be limiting the amount of alcohol one can buy, the communist style. Then, phase it out altogether.

Government would never allow this of course. LCBO bring them tons of $$$. Alcohol in Canada is one of the most expensive in the world.
 
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Majority of people know very well what's about to transpire when they go to a bar or a party. The dilemma is that even the most intelligent are not being proactive enough in terms of planning.

Drinking is the root of a lot of evil, so banning it isn't such a bad idea. Perhaps step one would be limiting the amount of alcohol one can by, the communist style. Then, phase it out altogether.

Government would never allow this of course. LCBO bring them tons of $$$. Alcohol in Canada is one of the most expensive in the world.
To be fair, most people don't drive when they're impaired. Rather than ban alcohol, why don't manufacturers install ignition interlocks in all vehicles. That would certainly cut down on impaired drivers.
 
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Most people don't set out to drink and drive. The problem is, alcohol impairs your judgement, so you think you're okay to drive, but you're not. Of course there's the alcoholics and repeat offenders who simply don't care. But for the rest, it's really that simple for the vast majority who drink and drive.
Respectfully, if that's your approach, you're an idiot. It's pretty simple to learn how many drinks put you over the legal limit. I agree with MADD that the current limits are far too high. Adults with brains can go out and limit themselves to two drinks.

It's really that simple for the vast majority who DON'T drink and drive, to paraphrase your comment.

Take a fucking cab if you can't be responsible.

And if it isn't obvious, I lost a very close friend to a drunk driver. She was sitting in her partner's car, stopped at a red light, when some drunk bounced off another car, and hit her side of the car. Cops estimated that the guy was driving 160 kph in a 70 kph zone. He was barely scratched and blew 3.5 times the limit or something.

My friend had a daughter who was 5 when she was killed.

Grow up.
 
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I'll share...

Alcohol (just beer now) has been my one-and-only nemesis. My brain screans at me about all the problems, yet I still want it. I'm addicted, I know it and I haven't been able to shake it. I'm a high-functioning alcoholic that has the money to see an SP before I go out and have an Uber take me there, to the bar and then back home (and the forethought to plan to do so...)

I see the argument of both sides and offer:
- An alcoholic that is caught out at a pub with their car is fucked. The women are there, the drink is there, the judgement leaves... I have begrudging sympathy as I have battled this (successfully) in the past. Without the money, I can see how some people get caught drinking and driving,
- I also believe in ignition interlocks for all cars. If the Government is serious, this is a no-brainer at this point, and
- Self-driving cars will help.

Booze sucks, but it is absolutely fantastic, but we all need to stop.
 

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Prohibition is not the answer. People who are going to drink will find a way, as mentioned above, this has happened throughout history enough times to learn. Interestingly, in places that still allow things like open carry for booze, no one seems to be taking advantage or struggling with the same issues. Maybe there is something we aren't doing right here? Such as teaching kids how to drink responsibly when they are older.
 
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Respectfully, if that's your approach, you're an idiot. It's pretty simple to learn how many drinks put you over the legal limit. I agree with MADD that the current limits are far too high. Adults with brains can go out and limit themselves to two drinks.

It's really that simple for the vast majority who DON'T drink and drive, to paraphrase your comment.

Take a fucking cab if you can't be responsible.

And if it isn't obvious, I lost a very close friend to a drunk driver. She was sitting in her partner's car, stopped at a red light, when some drunk bounced off another car, and hit her side of the car. Cops estimated that the guy was driving 160 kph in a 70 kph zone. He was barely scratched and blew 3.5 times the limit or something.

My friend had a daughter who was 5 when she was killed.

Grow up.
You really didn't understand what I was saying. I'm not condoning drinking and driving. I'm explaining why people do it. I do not drink and drive and also know people who've been injured and killed by drunk drivers. If I'm going out to dinner or for drinks, I leave the car at home and take public transit or an Uber.

You're an idiot if you don't know alcohol impairs your judgement and ability to make sound decisions. That's why some people, while they would never plan to drink and drive, end up driving home after a few drinks. Because the alcohol impairs their judgement. They thought they were okay to drive, but they weren't. They had a couple and were feeling good, so they had one or two more and now they're over 0.05 or 0.08.

The good news is, there's way more awareness now than there was in the past, when everyone used to drink and drive. But there's still too many who do it. Especially in rural communities where there's no public transit or Uber to get them home.
 
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The good news is, there's way more awareness now than there was in the past, when everyone used to drink and drive. But there's still too many who do it. Especially in rural communities where there's no public transit or Uber to get them home.
My apologies if I misunderstood. My point was that everyone knows alcohol and sensible decisions don't mix. That's why you either limit yourself to a set number of drinks or, if you aren't able to do that, leave the keys at home.

And I hear you about rural communities. I live in the boonies and yup, drunk driving is pretty common still. The only good aspect of that is that the guy driving home drunk is literally the only person on the road.
 
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