DOJ says Russia is meddling in the 2024 election,

Frankfooter

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So continuing to avoid the simple logic of the US' two party system.
And the way you accuse me of genocide shows how desperately you need some help.


p.s. Nasrallah was a terrorist according to Canada, the US, most of the western world and much of the Arab world. Don't know many groups which are more widely considered terrorists.
Russia, Turkey and the Pope say Israel are terrorists.
You'll find more people globally are going to say Israel and the US are acting as terrorists.

Now Israel is attacking Christians too.

 

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Russia, Turkey and the Pope say Israel are terrorists.
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What a surprise that you align yourself with Russia and Turkey instead of the rights respecting western world.

I support Canada's perspective far more than those of totalitarian dictators and wannabes.
 

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Trump is definitely comromised by Russia, a collasal liar and/or grossly misinformed and/or stupid.

Claims US has given THREE HUNDRED BILLION to Ukraine for the war and ALL of Europe has only given a "tiny fraction" of that. According to the US State Department the amount of TOTAL US aid to Ukraine is $58 billion. That includes ALL military aid, humanitarian, direct financial assistance etc. Fucking liar.

Als says there is no sense is Ukraine fighting Russia since Russia always wins wars, Russia defeated Hitler etc. :sick: Fucking guy is ABSOLUTELY compromised by Russia. And that has SERIOUS implications for us and the entire world. The possibility that there could be a US President that Russia has compromat on is horrifying. Not just to do with Ukraine.

Fucking cult followers...


I;ve winnowed and reorganized the highpoints of the article below for those who want a short version, but the full version of the article is here


FACT CHECK: Trump Outburst – US Support to Ukraine ‘Close to $300 billion,’ Europeans: Deadbeats

During his Savannah campaign speech, Trump led off with a diatribe that slammed Ukraine, the Zelensky government, the Biden administration and the whole of Europe.

US Presidential candidate Donald Trump at a recent campaign stop said American taxpayer-funded support to Ukraine was close to an eye-watering $300 billion, and that Europe isn’t even close to paying its fair share.

The reality is that Trump’s figure – “revealed’ to prospective voters in Savannah Georgia – was wrong and overstated US support to Ukraine by at least a factor of four, and maybe more, a Kyiv Post fact check found.

In the same Tuesday stump speech, Trump claimed that Ukraine’s European allies were dodging payment of their fair share of Ukraine assistance, and leaving America to pick up the tab.

In fact, total US military assistance for the duration of more than 30 months of the war in Ukraine is actually less than total European military assistance provided to Ukraine.

“(You) know what Europe has given them, which is approximately our size. When you add up the countries together, their economy, it's very close to our size. They've given them like a small fraction of that [$300 billion] number. Just a small, very small, fraction and we have an ocean separating [the US from Europe and the War in Ukraine].”


During his Savannah campaign speech, Trump led off with a diatribe that slammed Ukraine, the Zelensky government, the Biden administration and the whole of Europe.

Those Trump claims are also demonstrably false in multiple ways.

If military hardware and pure military assistance is totted up, then total non-US, primarily European, aid up to June 2024 is around $58 billion, compared to the US $55 billion over the same period.

From September 2023 through March 2024, US military assistance to Ukraine plummeted to less than $2 billion because of the funding block imposed by Congress, which many say was at Trump’s instigation. This coincided with the Russian offensive that captured the city of Bakhmut. The value of military material delivered by European states to Ukraine, during those critical six months was more than 12 times that of the US. Trump, of course, made no mention of Europe stepping in as Ukraine’s arsenal during that period.

Later in his speech, Trump told listeners that Ukrainian resistance to Russia was futile as Russia always wins its wars: “What happens if they [Russia] win? That's what they do. They fight wars. As somebody told me the other day, they beat Hitler, they beat Napoleon. That's what they do. They fight and it's not pleasant.”

The Ukrainian internet was quick to point out that in slightly more than the last century the Russian / Soviet military was repeatedly defeated, by: Japan – 1905, Germany – 1918, Poland – 1919, Afghanistan – 1989 and Chechnya – 1996. Trump made no reference to those facts.

 

Frankfooter

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What a surprise that you align yourself with Russia and Turkey instead of the rights respecting western world.

I support Canada's perspective far more than those of totalitarian dictators and wannabes.
I think you use the word 'terrorism' to label any group you think are sub human and should be killed so their land can be taken.

 

Frankfooter

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Please take your Palestinian/Israeli discussion to the approriate thread and stop hijacking this and so many other threads.
C'mon schlong, its all the same issues running into the 2024 election.
We have allegations of russian meddling, AIPAC spending $100 million and an election that will likely be lost because of support for genocide which means support for Ukraine will end next year.
They are all related.
 
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