Does anyone know a lot about TV's?

Buying EDTV that's HD ready is an oxymoron. EDTV maxed out at 480p resolution, HDTV is at minimum 720p resolution. That said, AFAIK, all name-brand EDTV are HDTV ready.

You will need HD cable box, of course to get the HD content (whch uselessly downconverted to 480p.

There is another thread in Technology section talking about TV.
 
Why would you want to buy an obsolete technology? Spend the extra 300, and get an HDTV compliant set. You'll kick yourself otherwise.
 
Here's a question for y'all:

When I was shopping for my HDTV, I noticed that everyone I looked at was basically HDTV ready. None of them had the built in HD receiver/FTA capability. Are there any out there that aren't just basically "ready"???
 
don't bother with TV with ATSC tuner, that's for OTA programming only. In the end you'll use an HD cable box anyway.
 
tboy said:
Here's a question for y'all:

When I was shopping for my HDTV, I noticed that everyone I looked at was basically HDTV ready. None of them had the built in HD receiver/FTA capability. Are there any out there that aren't just basically "ready"???

For one, it'll be expensive for the manufacturers to put a receiver in the unit, and that would carry in on the price of the unit itself. Basically, it would turn consumers away.
Secondly, you have a receiver already, if you subscribe to HDTV (via Rogers or Hell).
Another reason I heard and can't really verify was, that if they did put a box in the unit, it was almost as though the manufacturer would be imposing which signal you were capable of receiving -cable(rogers) or satellite(Hell).
So I was told but thought it was weird, because a receiver is a receiver to me.
But definitely the first 2 reasons.
 
Cobster said:
For one, it'll be expensive for the manufacturers to put a receiver in the unit, and that would carry in on the price of the unit itself. Basically, it would turn consumers away.
Secondly, you have a receiver already, if you subscribe to HDTV (via Rogers or Hell).
Another reason I heard and can't really verify was, that if they did put a box in the unit, it was almost as though the manufacturer would be imposing which signal you were capable of receiving -cable(rogers) or satellite(Hell).
So I was told but thought it was weird, because a receiver is a receiver to me.
But definitely the first 2 reasons.

That's what I thought too but I found it odd how in ads, they say HD TV or HD ready....yet in reality, they both mean the same thing as long as the monitor can receive a DVI signal and can produce a 1080i image.
 
Well it's ready to accept a receiver. ;)
Play on words, that's advertising for you.
 
tboy said:
That's what I thought too but I found it odd how in ads, they say HD TV or HD ready....yet in reality, they both mean the same thing as long as the monitor can receive a DVI signal and can produce a 1080i image.
Well, marketers will still try to pull a few tricks: just today I noticed an ad for a couple sets that claimed to be "HDTV" or "HD ready" - but only spec'ed a maximum of 780 lines of resolution. Sure, it claimed to accept a 1080i signal, but it's going to downsample that to 780. So while the vendors consider 780 to be "Hi Def", consumers are increasingly expecting 1080: read the specs and the reviews carefully before buying.
 
it's 760p or 768p. 780 is not an HD spec.

OTOH, 760p is part of HD spec, just not to its full capability.
 
It's amazing, because, 780i, is still pretty damn good.
Even if you're getting a down converted image, where the unit is trying to make it look like 1080i, nobody really knows what 1080i looks like.
You have to have the right feed (hd in this case), a tv capable of producing those images with component or dvi/hdmi cables.
Why is everyone so bent on 1080i and having the ultimate image?
I worked around the stuff a few years ago, and didn't care.
I just wanted a big ass screen with a reasonbly good image.
Stop buying into the hype, because it's not the norm yet fellas. ;)
In a few years, when it becomes the norm and less expensive, then buy into it.
It's all gimmicky advertising/marketing ploys, for you to spend top dollar.
Enjoy what you got now.
 
monkeychan said:
it's 760p or 768p. 780 is not an HD spec.

OTOH, 760p is part of HD spec, just not to its full capability.
I stand corrected. Call it a typo.
 
tboy said:
When I was shopping for my HDTV, I noticed that everyone I looked at was basically HDTV ready. None of them had the built in HD receiver/FTA capability. Are there any out there that aren't just basically "ready"???
As Cobster explained, they should call it 'HD capable' or 'HD compatible'.

In terms of the 1080i, people's passion to have the very latest is what continues to earn Electronic, Computer & car makers the big $$$. People want their bragging rights.

In terms of build-in receiver, Sony & others didn't want to gamble as North America did quite settled on the line format for HP standard back then.
 
Exactly GT.
I just bought last years Sony 50" LCD projection today.
A steal for the price I paid ($600 off), plus a lil extra since I knew the sales manager. Pretty much got it at cost. Can't wait for it to show up.
Bragging rights means shit, if you're gonna brag, brag how much less coin there is in your account as well. ;)
 
Well cob, I would think that those that want 1080i or HD would equate those that want the best sound for their buck, ie: infinity computer speakers *eg*. Sure I bet you could have saved some money and bought, ahem, logitech z5300e's heheheh

Anyhow, HD's been out for about 10 yrs now and IS the norm, only problem is that DVD's haven't caught up and not all TV prgrams are HD. Though more and more are.

Funny thing about HD, most people don't even have it even though their monitor is able to produce the HD image.....

Anyhow, I'm all for buying last year's technology. I don't have to have the latest and greatest because of the associated cost with that.
 
tboy said:
Well cob, I would think that those that want 1080i or HD would equate those that want the best sound for their buck, ie: infinity computer speakers *eg*. Sure I bet you could have saved some money and bought, ahem, logitech z5300e's heheheh

Anyhow, HD's been out for about 10 yrs now and IS the norm, only problem is that DVD's haven't caught up and not all TV prgrams are HD. Though more and more are.

Funny thing about HD, most people don't even have it even though their monitor is able to produce the HD image.....

Anyhow, I'm all for buying last year's technology. I don't have to have the latest and greatest because of the associated cost with that.

Mr.T, those Infinitys, retail for $1000 even, I got them BRAND new, legit, for 50% off.
Otherwise, I wouldn't be caught dead paying a G note for them.

HD isn't quite the norm yet, at most, what?, 15-20 channels, that DON'T repeat?

Exactly, I got my big screen TV, for that reason, big screen. :)
 
Cobster said:
Bragging rights means shit, if you're gonna brag, brag how much less coin there is in your account as well.

Agreed! Don't buy on specs alone. Specs are important but if you can't see the difference or justify the price difference, why spend the money? Unfortunately I can see the difference and to me it's worth the extra bucks. On the other hand, most people can't even see the difference between 480i and 480p. If that's the case for any of you, don't even bother upgrading to HD anything. Save your money for your other hobby such as knitting :p
 
lol!
Ya, I might need some winter sweaters, so if any of you knit...:p
 
monkeychan said:
Specs are important but if you can't see the difference or justify the price difference, why spend the money? Unfortunately I can see the difference and to me it's worth the extra bucks. On the other hand, most people can't even see the difference between 480i and 480p. If that's the case for any of you, don't even bother upgrading to HD anything. Save your money for your other hobby such as knitting
You hit it right on the money. If you can appreciate the difference, it's worth the extra bucks.

HD adaption rate is slow in Canada. Some hollywood stars are quietly hoping HD won't become the norm. As HD & close-up of bad skin are bad mix.