Documentry: Short & male..sums it up....
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Bull.cute-bald said:
Napoleon conquered most of Europe and only failed because he didn't realize how bloody minded the Russians were (they employed the tactic of "scorched Earth", burn your homes, fields, kill your livestock, and run away from the approaching French army, which has nothing so seize in terms of supplies and has to ship food in via a long a precarious supply route over 1000s of miles. Eventually Russian winter kicks in, you cut off the French supplies, let them starve to death for awhile, and then kick their asses with the army).
Height, or any number of things, may put you at a disadvantage in life - no arguments on that point. But you can most certainly compensate.
You either roll over and let life deal the cards, or you seize the fucking deck and proclaim "screw that, we're playing chess instead!"
I was channel surfing last night and saw that on the guide and my eyes nearly rolled out of my head, this is a pitful sorry excuse that some guys come up with to compensate for the fact that they have zero social skills, arent in good shape, havent accomplished anything in life and dont know how to dress properly.
Thanks to millions of years of evolution its men who are primarily obsessed with looks, on a scale of priorities looks to women are secondary for the most part unless you are dealing with some 20 year old twit hanging out at Musik on a Saturday night. I am 5'6 on a good day, and I get my share of chicks, do I get rejected? of course!!! do I always end up with the gal that looks like Charlize or Angelina hell no!!!
but a combination of confidence, a good sense of humour, taking care of yourself physically,dressing smartly and accomplishing some success in life in whatever field it is you are in will go a long way in attracting the ladies.
Thanks to millions of years of evolution its men who are primarily obsessed with looks, on a scale of priorities looks to women are secondary for the most part unless you are dealing with some 20 year old twit hanging out at Musik on a Saturday night. I am 5'6 on a good day, and I get my share of chicks, do I get rejected? of course!!! do I always end up with the gal that looks like Charlize or Angelina hell no!!!
but a combination of confidence, a good sense of humour, taking care of yourself physically,dressing smartly and accomplishing some success in life in whatever field it is you are in will go a long way in attracting the ladies.
scouser1,
I go one step farther and say that "success" isn't always what people think it is, either.
If you're clear about what you believe is important, what you value, and are making progress along the lines of realizing those things, and maximizing those values, someone will view that as a success. That is why the "bad boy bohemian artist" who has no money, lives on the edge of financial collapse, wears baggy black sweaters marked with paint, and needs a haircut, yet is passionate and genuine about his art and has that "burning vision", still has appeal to someone out there, even if not to all
Confidence, passion, vision, progress (even if not yet finalized "success") - these will get you a long way, and not just with women, in life in general.
Where you fuck up, and fuck yourself over royally, is when you roll over, accept that life is unfair and you got screwed and there is nothing you can do about it (I am short; life is bad; I am screwed).
That is a self-fulfilling proclamation, by buying into it, you are screwed, even if you are the one screwing yourself.
Success and personal value are not goals, but an ongoing dynamic processes, in my books.
I go one step farther and say that "success" isn't always what people think it is, either.
If you're clear about what you believe is important, what you value, and are making progress along the lines of realizing those things, and maximizing those values, someone will view that as a success. That is why the "bad boy bohemian artist" who has no money, lives on the edge of financial collapse, wears baggy black sweaters marked with paint, and needs a haircut, yet is passionate and genuine about his art and has that "burning vision", still has appeal to someone out there, even if not to all
Confidence, passion, vision, progress (even if not yet finalized "success") - these will get you a long way, and not just with women, in life in general.
Where you fuck up, and fuck yourself over royally, is when you roll over, accept that life is unfair and you got screwed and there is nothing you can do about it (I am short; life is bad; I am screwed).
That is a self-fulfilling proclamation, by buying into it, you are screwed, even if you are the one screwing yourself.
Success and personal value are not goals, but an ongoing dynamic processes, in my books.
One of the issues in society is that the words "short" and "tall" can have negative conitations:
Don't get short with me...
I'm afraid we need to cut this short...
I got the short end of the stick...
How tall are you (as oppose to what is your height)...
I expected him to be taller...
Tall, dark and handsome (never average or short)...
In Spain, France, Portugal, Italy...5'7"-5'8" is actually around the average mark for middle age males as oppose to 5'9"-5'10" in North America. Some say heightism is very much a western cultural prejudice.
General Electric CEO Jack Welsh (5'7"), Houdini (5'4"), Maradona (5'5"), Bono & Curt Cobain (both 5'7"), Prince & Angus Young AC/DC (both 5'2"), Pacino & Hoffman (both 5'6") were all very successful despite a smaller stature meaning that talent, passion, charisma, confidence can take you a long way in life (as some have mentioned).
Failing shoe lifts, being funnier/wittier than most and wearing higher hair styles, one can always target shorter women (latinas, asians, ect.) for better odds in the mating game if they are that insecure about their height.
Don't get short with me...
I'm afraid we need to cut this short...
I got the short end of the stick...
How tall are you (as oppose to what is your height)...
I expected him to be taller...
Tall, dark and handsome (never average or short)...
In Spain, France, Portugal, Italy...5'7"-5'8" is actually around the average mark for middle age males as oppose to 5'9"-5'10" in North America. Some say heightism is very much a western cultural prejudice.
General Electric CEO Jack Welsh (5'7"), Houdini (5'4"), Maradona (5'5"), Bono & Curt Cobain (both 5'7"), Prince & Angus Young AC/DC (both 5'2"), Pacino & Hoffman (both 5'6") were all very successful despite a smaller stature meaning that talent, passion, charisma, confidence can take you a long way in life (as some have mentioned).
Failing shoe lifts, being funnier/wittier than most and wearing higher hair styles, one can always target shorter women (latinas, asians, ect.) for better odds in the mating game if they are that insecure about their height.
Much of what is said is true... but........
...we all know what the women preferr & it doesn't take much research to find that out. As well expressed in the pop culture movie ,which women can really relate to, " Sex in The City" ... their heroine Samantha says.. " Sex with a short guy is like having sex with a horny smurf." Gets great laughs with the women & ... Oh yeah.... they're just rushing out to find themselves a horny smurf..... Ok guys.. keep wishing!
...we all know what the women preferr & it doesn't take much research to find that out. As well expressed in the pop culture movie ,which women can really relate to, " Sex in The City" ... their heroine Samantha says.. " Sex with a short guy is like having sex with a horny smurf." Gets great laughs with the women & ... Oh yeah.... they're just rushing out to find themselves a horny smurf..... Ok guys.. keep wishing!
Crixus said:scouser1,
I go one step farther and say that "success" isn't always what people think it is, either.
If you're clear about what you believe is important, what you value, and are making progress along the lines of realizing those things, and maximizing those values, someone will view that as a success. That is why the "bad boy bohemian artist" who has no money, lives on the edge of financial collapse, wears baggy black sweaters marked with paint, and needs a haircut, yet is passionate and genuine about his art and has that "burning vision", still has appeal to someone out there, even if not to all
Confidence, passion, vision, progress (even if not yet finalized "success") - these will get you a long way, and not just with women, in life in general.
Where you fuck up, and fuck yourself over royally, is when you roll over, accept that life is unfair and you got screwed and there is nothing you can do about it (I am short; life is bad; I am screwed).
That is a self-fulfilling proclamation, by buying into it, you are screwed, even if you are the one screwing yourself.
Success and personal value are not goals, but an ongoing dynamic processes, in my books.
“Try not to become a man of success rather try to become a man of value.”
–Albert Einstein
Please!cute-bald said:
As if women are monolithic consumer demographic group.
They don't all want the same thing (although a fetish for short blue guys with high libidos and squeaky voices is probably a small one).
Trust me, I'm quite aware of this because what I want/demand in a partner is a very narrow demographic itself.
Even if you are in a descriptive category which appeals to a low percentage of people out there, there are a lot of people out there.
There is no such thing as universal compatibility, even if you are the body-builder/surfer independent wealthy Australian grad-student, and there is no such thing as zero compatibility even if you are 4'1", spherical, and bright green.
Be who you are, fully, honestly, passionately, and find the people with whom you connect, and to hell with the rest. Let them find their own people.
you can fix Fat... not so much ugly or short.... in north america 85% of the time the ladys go for tall dark and submissive...i tried picking on my own size dating 4-11" -5'3 gals and have been told they date 5,9 and over ...Europe was more relaxing and not some much oversight. all ways the same shit...maybe my Bark isn't as good as my bit....
I bet you 80% of Terb guys are is 5'3" to 5'7".
I bet you 80% of Terb guys are is 5'3" to 5'7".
My reaction to that is: Date people, not packages of statistics. I've been involved with a fairly broad range of "types", all the way from 4'11' and about 90lbs, to 5'8" and 240, because I connected with the person not her age, height, weight, or socioeconomic profile.herames said:
I have done the whole "statistical analysis" thing to death myself, so I cannot criticize anyone who is doing it, but I gave it up because I came to believe that sitting back and analyzing things can be a excuse to not do anything. Just talk to her, get to know her, ask her out. If she isn't interested, well ... that's disappointing, but your self worth should not be tied up in the acceptance/rejection of any one person with whom you haven't built a life together. Find someone else with whom you do connect better.
And if you want to be really sneaky, still maintain contact with the woman who wasn't interested, get to know her on other levels and other ways ... there's always the future
Crixus !? is that 101 on how to be a stocker?...kidding....
in all ...I just pick on my one size...you know how awkward it is to have a tall hot girl kind of bend down to kiss you...side... short guys are stereotypically seen as perverts... ie: guys eye height to women s Breasts
in all ...I just pick on my one size...you know how awkward it is to have a tall hot girl kind of bend down to kiss you...side... short guys are stereotypically seen as perverts... ie: guys eye height to women s Breasts
I said "get to know her" not "lurk outside her apartment in a trench coat"herames said:
As for the rest ...
No, no, no! I strive to exorcise the demons of stereotyping either in how I perceive other people, or how I think people might perceive me ... actually I do my best not to worry about how people perceive me. If you are fully yourself, do it honestly, passionately, and with a little panache' and style, then you're set.
The fundamental approach is not to alter yourself to match your "target demographic", but to fully be yourself, and find the people with whom you connect.
If you're a short guy who has a thing for tall women, find tall women who dig short guys - plain and simple. Sure, there may not be a lot of them, who said life was fair, or easy, you can either roll over and watch reruns of Seinfeld your entire life or get out there and find them.
I don't know about you, but I've seen enough Seinfeld for this lifetime.
i can't say i was given a complex with the height ratio. Its better to pick on your own size... i like the old adage my grand dad and father said..." we are all the same height lying down" how shag-a-delic is that!?
I'm not overly tall, and I have a good sized belly. I just go for people who I find attractive and hope my charming personality is the thing that gets noticed.
Not to mention I have the face of a beetle.
Not to mention I have the face of a beetle.
Bah! Good looking does not equal attractive.
In terms of the norm, yes, height for women is the equivalent attraction factor that weight is for men. But that's only the ideal, the theory. I've met and dated some incredibly attractive women who didn't fit the 100-120 lbs group. The reason they were attractive was the way they dressed to highlight their assest and hid their flaws, and their attitudes which radiated confidence and sexiness.
Conversely, I dated a girl who physically would put models and SP's to shame, but she mostly kept her shoulders hunched, and was socially inadequate, and I dropped her, despite her physical beauty.
As for me, I'm 5' 8 1/2, 5'9 on good days. Although I've been training martial arts for 20+ years, the desk job I have gives me about 15-20lbs extra around my middle I can't seem to shake. But I dress well for my build, smile and look people in the eye when I talk to them, and so I've dated strippers and lingerie models, some noticeably taller than me. Even now, the 2 women I'm involved with are great looking by anyone's standards.
So when I see something like this:
In terms of the norm, yes, height for women is the equivalent attraction factor that weight is for men. But that's only the ideal, the theory. I've met and dated some incredibly attractive women who didn't fit the 100-120 lbs group. The reason they were attractive was the way they dressed to highlight their assest and hid their flaws, and their attitudes which radiated confidence and sexiness.
Conversely, I dated a girl who physically would put models and SP's to shame, but she mostly kept her shoulders hunched, and was socially inadequate, and I dropped her, despite her physical beauty.
As for me, I'm 5' 8 1/2, 5'9 on good days. Although I've been training martial arts for 20+ years, the desk job I have gives me about 15-20lbs extra around my middle I can't seem to shake. But I dress well for my build, smile and look people in the eye when I talk to them, and so I've dated strippers and lingerie models, some noticeably taller than me. Even now, the 2 women I'm involved with are great looking by anyone's standards.
So when I see something like this:
I say bullshit. Work with what you have, have confidence, have a sense of humour, and you WILL be attractive.
you could fix short too
how's about the medieval stretching rack?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=medieval%20stretching%20rack&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
how's about the medieval stretching rack?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=medieval%20stretching%20rack&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
