Do you visit touring SP's?

[Conway_Stewart]

I see ads all the time from SP's visiting from Montreal, BC, etc. I never go to see them as I'd rather support our local ladies. IMHO, ladies from out of town aren't gonna have the same motivation to provide good service as they are just visiting and don't need to be as concerned about their reputation.

What do others think?

 

[Chloë.]

I see ads all the time from SP's visiting from Montreal, BC, etc. I never go to see them as I'd rather support our local ladies. IMHO, ladies from out of town aren't gonna have the same motivation to provide good service as they are just visiting and don't need to be as concerned about their reputation.

What do others think?

I think if they travel here frequently, reputation is everything. Nobody wants to mess that up.

 

[legmann]

IMHO, ladies from out of town aren't gonna have the same motivation to provide good service as they are just visiting and don't need to be as concerned about their reputation.

Definite possibility, but the ones that do tend to build up an established following (me incl.) quite quickly. The ladies from Mtl are by now here so often, they've more or less become 'regulars' on the scene and well-reviewed enough that there is no longer any uncertainty booking with them.

 

[Butler1000]

A good portion of girls working both agency or indy are from out of town anyway. Whether while in school or working away from home so not to run into someone they know.

A lady who announces she is touring may well already have a good rep and is coming out on request.

And for some of the hound dogs on here they need the variety because they have already exhausted the talent pool here.

But the notion of supporting local considering how many aren't native is kind of naive.

 

[Celticman]

I think if they travel here frequently, reputation is everything. Nobody wants to mess that up.

Definite possibility, but the ones that do tend to build up an established following (me incl.) quite quickly. The ladies from Mtl are by now here so often, they've more or less become 'regulars' on the scene and well-reviewed enough that there is no longer any uncertainty booking with them.

Exactly.

One of the great things about the SW industry hereabouts is the remarkable number of ladies that support each other. It is not at all uncommon when you see a member asking "have you..." that an SP will chip in with a suggestion to see a certain lady. Many of the ladies know each other and seem to have good friendships. What could be a cut throat business for the ladies to achieve their $$ goals is scarcely so, as there seems to be lots to go around, regardless of local or visiting. That said, it does not matter to me if the lady is local or visiting. She deserves the support that she merits in terms of the value that she provides.

Conversely, if we take Conway's argument, would we then suggest that when our local ladies are touring that they should be ignored in BC in favour of Molly Red Deer?

 

[harryass]

Yes. The good ones, constantly provide great service both locally and on the road.

 

[Conway_Stewart]

A good portion of girls working both agency or indy are from out of town anyway. Whether while in school or working away from home so not to run into someone they know.

A lady who announces she is touring may well already have a good rep and is coming out on request.

And for some of the hound dogs on here they need the variety because they have already exhausted the talent pool here.

But the notion of supporting local considering how many aren't native is kind of naive.

By local I mean ladies that work primarily in the GTA. Whether they were born here or not doesn't really matter.


Also...if a guy has exhausted the entire GTA talent pool then he's got a hobbying addiction and should probably talk to someone..LOL!

Anyhow...it sounds like a lot of guys see touring sp's and have good experiences. Good to know...thanks!

 

[Conway_Stewart]

Exactly.

One of the great things about the SW industry hereabouts is the remarkable number of ladies that support each other. It is not at all uncommon when you see a member asking "have you..." that an SP will chip in with a suggestion to see a certain lady. Many of the ladies know each other and seem to have good friendships. What could be a cut throat business for the ladies to achieve their $$ goals is scarcely so, as there seems to be lots to go around, regardless of local or visiting. That said, it does not matter to me if the lady is local or visiting. She deserves the support that she merits in terms of the value that she provides.

Conversely, if we take Conway's argument, would we then suggest that when our local ladies are touring that they should be ignored in BC in favour of Molly Red Deer?

Molly Red Deer is from Alberta...If BC guys wanna support local talent they should see Molly's half sister: Vanessa Vancouver.






PS: Not all SP's get along well. Some do...others can't stand each other...Just like any other walk of life I suppose.

 

[Chloë.]

Exactly.

One of the great things about the SW industry hereabouts is the remarkable number of ladies that support each other. It is not at all uncommon when you see a member asking "have you..." that an SP will chip in with a suggestion to see a certain lady. Many of the ladies know each other and seem to have good friendships. What could be a cut throat business for the ladies to achieve their $$ goals is scarcely so, as there seems to be lots to go around, regardless of local or visiting. That said, it does not matter to me if the lady is local or visiting. She deserves the support that she merits in terms of the value that she provides.

Conversely, if we take Conway's argument, would we then suggest that when our local ladies are touring that they should be ignored in BC in favour of Molly Red Deer?

This is very true! Especially in terms of references for indies. A lot of us are friends and do share the same clients so it's nice to be able to have someone to turn to for advice or help. When you're not from here, it can be hard to be alone. Strength in numbers!

When I'm travelling, I LOVE meeting local ladies. It's always nice to gain a new friend or acquaintance.

 

[Celticman]

PS: Not all SP's get along well. Some do...others can't stand each other...Just like any other walk of life I suppose.

For sure, but as you know you see that way more in your other habitat. It is virtually all concentrated there with a handful of women who are, essentially, outliers to the mainstream SP professional world.

 

[Chloë.]

For sure, but as you know you see that way more in your other habitat. It is virtually all concentrated there with a handful of women who are, essentially, outliers to the mainstream SP professional world.

+1. The drama between females over there is how the majority of us DO NOT operate. But if you are constantly in that environment, of course it'll seem normal. It isn't.

 

[Conway_Stewart]

For sure, but as you know you see that way more in your other habitat. It is virtually all concentrated there with a handful of women who are, essentially, outliers to the mainstream SP professional world.

Are they outliers or the tip of the iceberg?

I dunno...but from what I've heard it's not exactly the supportive sisterhood that you're describing either.

 

[Chloë.]

Are they outliers or the tip of the iceberg?

I dunno...but from what I've heard it's not exactly the supportive sisterhood that you're describing either.

As a provider apart of several of these, I'd say you've heard wrong.

 

[Celticman]

Are they outliers or the tip of the iceberg?

I dunno...but from what I've heard it's not exactly the supportive sisterhood that you're describing either.

Here is your answer from Chloe. To some degree you are making my argument as you are here now after a long absence because it has become too much for you over there. You are in a better place.

But if you are constantly in that environment, of course it'll seem normal. It isn't.

 

[Conway_Stewart]

As a provider apart of several of these, I'd say you've heard wrong.

Glad to hear it. Sounds like you have a great network of friends in the biz.

 

[Conway_Stewart]

Here is your answer from Chloe. To some degree you are making my argument as you are here now after a long absence because it has become too much for you over there. You are in a better place.

You may be right...it's also possible that because there is literally no filter over there you see things that sp's on this board all know to be true but have the good judgment and common sense to keep to themselves. I suspect it's a bit of both.

As far as it being a better place over here...you are entirely correct, Sir!

 

[Chloë.]

Glad to hear it. Sounds like you have a great network of friends in the biz.

Strength in numbers.

You don't have to go it alone is my belief. Helping one another is so key to success with this.

 

[SchlongConery]

Well if anyone wants to try a real TOFTT Touring girl.... Porn Star Mia Khalifa says she is in town. Or someone who says it is her!

http://toronto.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/guess-who-available-in-toronto-this-weekend/39407675

 

[Conway_Stewart]

Well if anyone wants to try a real TOFTT Touring girl.... Porn Star Mia Khalifa says she is in town. Or someone who says it is her!

http://toronto.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/guess-who-available-in-toronto-this-weekend/39407675

LOL...That's different! I never trust those touring porn star ads...they'll gouge you for some outrageous price and it may or may not be the chick you think it is.

 

[WestCoaster]

Touring ladies are worthy of a look, but you have to be careful and picky. The top names are usually a great experience. However, if you are seeing them later in the day, as Mr. Customer #5 or in some case #10! :apologetic: then you may be in for an indifferent or even hostile experience. The first time I saw Vicky Vixen in Calgary, I was the first guy on the first day and it was superlative. My next and last visit with her was on her last day of a week long visit and I'd guess I was #3 or #4 that day and she was no longer into anything resembling a fun time. It was pure robot auto pilot and I swore never again.

The other thing that can cause me to take a pass is pure profiteering by the lady. Her rate in Montreal, 200, Toronto 300, Alberta 400 or 500. Sorry, but I will try to catch you at home, I am not paying that kind of premium. Vancouver is so bad with fake bookings and attacks from the local ladies and pimps that many touring folks just pass on it altogether.

As for the comments on the lady on lady drama (welcome Conway, congrats on your parole from hell, btw), there are very few ladies who can sustain a long time friendship with other providers, even at the high end. Competition is a fact of life, and I have seen even duo partners who are long-time friends fall apart over the "theft" of a regular or two. There are undoubtedly exceptions, but the ladies who fight are vicious, even evil creatures that are not to be trifled with. Outings are common, both on review boards and places like "the dirty" and other revenge sites. It goes without saying that the denizens on the blue board have elevated it to a science or nasty art form. It's a business after all, not a social circle. When you add in drugs, boyfriend/pimp issues, mental problems and ego, it can get bad, fast.