Do you think inflation has contributed to Passport Bros going overseas?

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So I have seen this argument going around that because the cost of living is so high here it has created a trickle effect in dating.

Most households here in the west, require 2 person incomes. So the women works and has less time, energy and desire to be a traditional wife when she is taking on the “male” role of providing for the home financially in part. All while the men still want to woman to maintain the “female” role of keeping house. Since this is impossible and completely unfair - it is causing a bigger rift between the sexes and therefore, as a result, women are being single and men are going overseas.

Do you believe that inflation can have such an impact on life as to be causing men to become passport bros?
 

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So I have seen this argument going around that because the cost of living is so high here it has created a trickle effect in dating.

Most households here in the west, require 2 person incomes. So the women works and has less time, energy and desire to be a traditional wife when she is taking on the “male” role of providing for the home financially in part. All while the men still want to woman to maintain the “female” role of keeping house. Since this is impossible and completely unfair - it is causing a bigger rift between the sexes and therefore, as a result, women are being single and men are going overseas.

Do you believe that inflation can have such an impact on life as to be causing men to become passport bros?
The problem goes back decades. The 1980s was the big turning point. Wish I had more up to date graphs.

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Know part of the reason I fell for my Ex ( 1gen Sicilian) was their family values. A stark contrast to North American women who seem more preoccupied with corporate ladders.

With our diversity now, maybe more people are simply gravitating toward other cultures and cultural differences. I know these days, I’m drawn to most European, African, Auzzie and S American women, more than I am NA

Good thing or bad thing? Don’t know, do know I’m thankfully women are more free to be and so what they want.
 

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So I have seen this argument going around that because the cost of living is so high here it has created a trickle effect in dating.

Most households here in the west, require 2 person incomes. So the women works and has less time, energy and desire to be a traditional wife when she is taking on the “male” role of providing for the home financially in part. All while the men still want to woman to maintain the “female” role of keeping house. Since this is impossible and completely unfair - it is causing a bigger rift between the sexes and therefore, as a result, women are being single and men are going overseas.

Do you believe that inflation can have such an impact on life as to be causing men to become passport bros?
Well if you're in tech with good or better skills and like to travel than the digital nomad lifestyle has it's appeal and why not aim for a LCOL area to set-up shop in. There's also the fact Canada as a whole is very risk averse so if you want to actually do something creative and need to raise funds than Canada is not the spot to do that. If I didn't have elderly parents who need help or was 20 years younger than I wouldn't be sticking around in Canada either.

As for dating... factor in lack of benefits, poor overall salaries, student debt, overpriced housing, inflation... and you can largely forget about starting a family until your mid to late 30's assuming you can find a partner worth marrying.
 
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Beautiful question. One to many answers with none being wrong.
So I have seen this argument going around that because the cost of living is so high here it has created a trickle effect in dating.
Do you believe that inflation can have such an impact on life as to be causing men to become passport bros?
Yes.

The only way a man/woman can make more money if they work at a branch of US/CDN company overseas and their title is management. They get paid CDN wage (80k+) the same as here while living in a third world country in which cost of living is 1/4 (1/5) of Canada/US.
My above statement only applies to the 3 % people. I met those people.

But a regular blue collar person living/working overseas I cannot see it happening, unless they open their own business , speak the language and are very lucky in their success. I met a guy plus 60 has come back he got in trouble with the law but helped the police so had to leave or else he is dead. He was successful but got greedy. Another guy, never married or no kid but had local girlfriends just decide to come back, family, old friends, I think he got lonely. But lives with roommates here at 65+ can't afford it.

These are small percent of the passport bros. I believe the big share of passport bros are young men / women tired of the attitude.
Very few men are aiming for materialism or illusions.

see video below.

 
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A bit off topic but I've heard if you go over to certain parts of Asia and SEA for sex tourism, bring condoms, go on PReP and just to be safe, get a vasectomy.

Apparently sex ed and birth control are non-existent and HIV is rampant.

I've also heard it's BS and not to believe everything you see in porn videos or read in blogs or on Reddit and whether you see sex workers on meet women through hook-up apps, they all practice safe sex.
 
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I just got back from Thailand and a meal is 2 or 3 dollars, never have to cook. Most thais don't even cook unless they like to. A livable place is 500$.

As far as foreign women being pushovers or submissive, not really true. All the same issues arise in relationships, plus there's a language barrier, Phillipines excepted.

Most foreign women are bored with us but do it to provide a better life for them. Keep in mind you still need some source of income to live anywhere.
 

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I just got back from Thailand and a meal is 2 or 3 dollars, never have to cook. Most thais don't even cook unless they like to. A livable place is 500$.

As far as foreign women being pushovers or submissive, not really true. All the same issues arise in relationships, plus there's a language barrier, Phillipines excepted.

Most foreign women are bored with us but do it to provide a better life for them. Keep in mind you still need some source of income to live anywhere.
I have been to Philippines but never Thailand. My nephew married a Thai and learned the language and is a teacher there. Maybe one day I will go.
But you are right to keep in mind that they are still women. Approach with caution!
 

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I have been to Philippines but never Thailand. My nephew married a Thai and learned the language and is a teacher there. Maybe one day I will go.
But you are right to keep in mind that they are still women. Approach with caution!
The passport bros make it seem like it's smooth sailing. The same problems still arise. Some are happily married, some have lost everything. Many have a secret thai boyfriend and the foreigner is funding everything.

I've taken many girls and they say their job is to keep the man happy when they are being paid. It's just business. They all say the same thing. Their job is to be arm candy and not cause problems. They all say me no like thai man, but the thai bouncers at the clubs are having their way with them.

Marriage is a whole other ball game.
 

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The passport bros make it seem like it's smooth sailing. The same problems still arise. Some are happily married, some have lost everything. Many have a secret thai boyfriend and the foreigner is funding everything.

I've taken many girls and they say their job is to keep the man happy when they are being paid. It's just business. They all say the same thing. Their job is to be arm candy and not cause problems. They all say me no like thai man, but the thai bouncers at the clubs are having their way with them.

Marriage is a whole other ball game.
True. Bringing them back to the west is also another thing too. They may expect you to continue to pay for everything and their money is just for things like clothes,shoes,handbags and to send money and boxes of goods back home. Also, some have mixed blood. In the case of the Philippines, chinese and spanish.
 

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So I have seen this argument going around that because the cost of living is so high here it has created a trickle effect in dating.

Most households here in the west, require 2 person incomes. So the women works and has less time, energy and desire to be a traditional wife when she is taking on the “male” role of providing for the home financially in part. All while the men still want to woman to maintain the “female” role of keeping house. Since this is impossible and completely unfair - it is causing a bigger rift between the sexes and therefore, as a result, women are being single and men are going overseas.

Do you believe that inflation can have such an impact on life as to be causing men to become passport bros?
people have been going overseas for many years. its just that the internet has blown it up. while its more common that men find partners overseas women also participate.

it makes complete financial sense to move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. some countries offer little to zero taxes. healthcare is modern, affordable and quicker access.

agreed most do require 2 incomes to maintain a lifestyle, but most people dont want to have to give up the lifestyle. its doable, but people want to live a certain lifestyle.

yes men would prefer women taking the female role. then again, I dont see women volunteering to go up on a ladder to the roof or remove a toilet and carry it down stairs, or going down in the middle of the night to see who is breaking in the house. there are things that men are much better at than women, and vice versa. I have no problem telling my girlfriend to fix the roof while I cook dinner.

its unfair that I have to go onto the roof and risk my life. just as its unfair that she has to do chores. its a trade off and my parents did things that needed to be done with no complaints because it was for the betterment of the family.

I dont see men leaving and going overseas as being unfair. instead they problem solved and found a solution for their problem and women who appreciated what they offered instead of a long list of of requirements.

its a short term solution though since non western countries and their women take on western culture ideas. even it the most "patriarchal" societies western ideas slowly weave their way into the culture. hence why relationships between the sexes are doomed.
 
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I just got back from Thailand and a meal is 2 or 3 dollars, never have to cook. Most thais don't even cook unless they like to. A livable place is 500$.

As far as foreign women being pushovers or submissive, not really true. All the same issues arise in relationships, plus there's a language barrier, Phillipines excepted.

Most foreign women are bored with us but do it to provide a better life for them. Keep in mind you still need some source of income to live anywhere.
its a great place to live. affordable, great access to poon and ladyboys. relationships are just as fucked as western countries; however, its very apparent that its a financial support and not feelings.

hypergamy it has no boarders.
 
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people have been going overseas for many years. its just that the internet has blown it up. while its more common that men find partners overseas women also participate.

it makes complete financial sense to move somewhere where the cost of living is cheaper. some countries offer little to zero taxes. healthcare is modern, affordable and quicker access.

agreed most do require 2 incomes to maintain a lifestyle, but most people dont want to have to give up the lifestyle. its doable, but people want to live a certain lifestyle.

yes men would prefer women taking the female role. then again, I dont see women volunteering to go up on a ladder to the roof or remove a toilet and carry it down stairs, or going down in the middle of the night to see who is breaking in the house. there are things that men are much better at than women, and vice versa. I have no problem telling my girlfriend to fix the roof while I cook dinner.

its unfair that I have to go onto the roof and risk my life. just as its unfair that she has to do chores. its a trade off and my parents did things that needed to be done with no complaints because it was for the betterment of the family.

I dont see men leaving and going overseas as being unfair. instead they problem solved and found a solution for their problem and women who appreciated what they offered instead of a long list of of requirements.

its a short term solution though since non western countries and their women take on western culture ideas. even it the most "patriarchal" societies western ideas slowly weave their way into the culture. hence why relationships between the sexes are doomed.
Yeah, even within those countries there can be a problem. My ex's(a Filipina)brother married a women from the province and took her to Manila. He worked in Saudi Arabia and sent money home and she had a nice house in a gated community. But she became too demanding and they divorced.
 
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So I have seen this argument going around that because the cost of living is so high here it has created a trickle effect in dating.

Most households here in the west, require 2 person incomes. So the women works and has less time, energy and desire to be a traditional wife when she is taking on the “male” role of providing for the home financially in part. All while the men still want to woman to maintain the “female” role of keeping house. Since this is impossible and completely unfair - it is causing a bigger rift between the sexes and therefore, as a result, women are being single and men are going overseas.

Do you believe that inflation can have such an impact on life as to be causing men to become passport bros?
Males typically work longer hours than females, I believe latest statistics show a gap of about 5 hours per week.
Males (25-54) also have a longer commute to work than females, the latest data shows about a 4.5 minute difference per day.
The male also is the primary parent to take kids to sporting activities.
Yet many women bitch and moan that they have to do all the housework which I contend is just not true anymore. At least not in my circle of friends.
Women are also the primary filers for divorce, initiating 69% of all divorce proceedings. Infidelity is the primary cause of divorce but up until the age of 50 the cheating gap between male vs female is actually relatively small with a 3% gap (14%-11%). However during their 50's the gap widens to 8% between male and female (23%-15%). Interesting.
Average age of divorce in Canada is 46.
I'd bet the majority of these passport bros are 50+
 
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its a great place to live. affordable, great access to poon and ladyboys. relationships are just as fucked as western countries; however, its very apparent that its a financial support and not feelings.

hypergamy it has no boarders.
Western men have to stop being hopeful romantics. The Boomer world of pair bonding doesn't exist anymore. If a woman genuinely has feelings for you, it's a bonus, but don't expect it, especially if there is an age gap or financial gap.

Most people are married to partners that are not their first choice, and not even close to their ideal. It's the nature of the world. If they can make a go of it, so can everyone else.

Get the bag to gain freedom and status, fuck as many beauties as possible, drop a couple kids in the one whose company you enjoy most and that you think could make a decent mother, each partner play their position in the relationship (e.g. she cooks, cleans, and pretends to love you; while you call the shots, never show weakness - women do NOT want you to get in touch with your feelings, and financially support the family), and call it a wrap.

That's life in a nutshell.
 
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Western men have to stop being hopeful romantics. The Boomer world of pair bonding doesn't exist anymore. If a woman genuinely has feelings for you, it's a bonus, but don't expect it, especially if there is an age gap or financial gap.

Most people are married to partners that are not their first choice, and not even close to their ideal. It's the nature of the world. If they can make a go of it, so can everyone else.

Get the bag to gain freedom and status, fuck as many beauties as possible, drop a couple kids in the one whose company you enjoy most and that you think could make a decent mother, each partner play their position in the relationship (e.g. she cooks, cleans, and pretends to love you; while you call the shots, never show weakness - women do NOT want you to get in touch with your feelings, and financially support the family), and call it a wrap.

That's life in a nutshell.
It is all based on evolution. Men do need to become less emotional.
 

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Western men have to stop being hopeful romantics.

Get the bag to gain freedom and status, fuck as many beauties as possible, drop a couple kids in the one whose company you enjoy most and that you think could make a decent mother, each partner play their position in the relationship (e.g. she cooks, cleans, and pretends to love you; while you call the shots, never show weakness - women do NOT want you to get in touch with your feelings, and financially support the family), and call it a wrap.

That's life in a nutshell.
This reminds me of a guy I knew who did not believe that women can orgasm. He was in his 50s.

Not believing that a woman can actually love a man is approximately on the same level.
 
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This reminds me of a guy I knew who did not believe that women can orgasm. He was in his 50s.

Not believing that a woman can actually love a man is approximately on the same level.
A woman loving you is a bonus, however it's not a requirement for a happy home. Practicality achieves that.

About 50% of women routinely orgasm during sexual intercourse.

But women don't have to orgasm to have kids while men do. Perhaps that's why nutting is so essential to a man for his entire life. It's just evolution, baby.
 
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