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do you ever get tired of the attitudes of SP's that you get totally turned off?

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So my regular SP has told me she is retiring in 5 months so I've been placing ads on BP and CL. My frustration level has made me want to throw in the towel which is pretty sad.

For starters, my regular SP acts like it's a privilege to see her. She sends me text like I should be jumping at the chance to see her because she is getting out of the biz. It's like, hey, when you get into the real world (she has gone to school and is almost done), you'll see how hard it is to make in a hour what I give you. I get the fact your providing a pretty amazing service, but you also get paid quite adequately for it.

So because of this, I've been posting on BP and CL for her replacement. The attitudes of these chicks kill me. The first response is always super sweet and nice. After that, is like I should be chasing them down to take my money. To the point where I even told one girl to fuck off. Do they not realize what we offer them in a hour is far beyond what most people make in the real world. This got me thinking "is there that many guys willing to throw that kind of money at these women that they can act like this?" I've gotten to the point where I'm totally turned off.

I don't even understand why they reply to my ad in the first place if they are going act like I should be thanking them for the privilege to talk to them after the first email. The first email usually goes something like "hey hun, saw your add on BP and would love to talk to more. I'm really sexy with a round booty and very friendly personality"

By the time we get to the third email and trying to make arrangements to meet up, it's the same old bull shit. I have to email them and ask if they're still interested. Then it's like they totally forgot who I am. It's "what are you looking for again?" "What do you look like?" Followed by these responses that show very little interest.

It's like, okay, you respond to my ad, then I have come after you to remind you who's ad you responded to, see if I'm okay looking enough for you, and hope you'll take my 150 for 45 minutes of work???

I'm about ready to throw in the towel on this shit. Just wondering if anyone else ever gets this frustrated
 

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Why does it take you three emails?

Three emails plus your ad is FOUR responses to you and you still haven't booked. SP's run into a lot of time wasters who get off on fantasizing about sessions they never actually book.

The booking process should involve nothing more than confirming stats, services, rates, location and availability. If you can't do that in one or two emails you're rambling instead of booking.
 

black booty lover

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Im not sure what your not understanding. You sound like one of the SP's.

They respond after I've laid everything out about me and what I'm offering. In there first response they usually ask questions which I've already covered in my ad. Like if I can host, ect. In my ad I ask them to tell me a little about themselves which they never do. Age, ect...

So my first response is asking those questions which they have completely ignored.

Then they get back to me and things seem good. They are of legal age, ect....so I start to ask when they would like to hook up, that's when I get the replies of "what are you looking for again"? "what are you offering?" and I usually have to email them a few times to ask if they are still interests or what's going on
 

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Im not sure what your not understanding. You sound like one of the SP's.

They respond after I've laid everything out about me and what I'm offering. In there first response they usually ask questions which I've already covered in my ad. Like if I can host, ect. In my ad I ask them to tell me a little about themselves which they never do. Age, ect...

So my first response is asking those questions which they have completely ignored.

Then they get back to me and things seem good. They are of legal age, ect....so I start to ask when they would like to hook up, that's when I get the replies of "what are you looking for again"? "what are you offering?" and I usually have to email them a few times to ask if they are still interests or what's going on

I dunno dude. It sure sounds like you ask a lot of questions. Try researching a well reviewed SP, email her with a simple request for a date and time and see what happens.


I get what you mean though. There share are plenty of flakes out there, but it isn't like this with a good agency/booker.


remember, you ain't trying to date these girls. You don't need to know whether they like chicken or fish, sunsets or unicorns. Book or don't book. That's all that matters.
 

black booty lover

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I dunno dude. It sure sounds like you ask a lot of questions. Try researching a well reviewed SP, email her with a simple request for a date and time and see what happens.


I get what you mean though. There share are plenty of flakes out there, but it isn't like this with a good agency/booker.


remember, you ain't trying to date these girls. You don't need to know whether they like chicken or fish, sunsets or unicorns. Book or don't book. That's all that matters.
Im really not asking that many questions. I ask them there age, if they can host, and a pic.

The reason I don't go to angencies is non of the big agencies have the type of women I like. I like black ghetto type chicks with big booty's. (which is probably a big part of the problem) but you would still think they would show interest in the opportunity to make 150 in 45 minutes seeing as that's more than what most college students make in a day at crummy retail or fast food job.
 

Captain Fantastic

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get real dude (can't say what I really want to say to you or else I might get banned)
$150 for 45 mins IS cheap - look at the market. Most girls expect more and the ones that don't are more than likely going to give you the feedback you've been getting.

Not sure what you don't understand. :confused:

If you still want to vent, send me a PM.
 

black booty lover

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$150 for 45 mins IS cheap - look at the market. Most girls expect more and the ones that don't are more than likely going to give you the feedback you've been getting.

Not sure what you don't understand. :confused:

If you still want to vent, send me a PM.
Check out back page Captain Ignorant and you'll see what I'm offering is pretty much on par especially since I'm not asking for full service or bj's. I'm asking for massage and face smothering.
 

Captain Fantastic

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Check out back page captain Ignorant and you'll see what I'm offering is pretty much on par especially since I'm not asking for full service or bj's. I'm asking for massage and face smothering.
U mad bro? :)

We have no idea what you posted, where you posted (section, etc.) or how clear you were in your queries. If it's like your posts here, I can understand why there might be some "confusion".

Backpage is known for its lack of reliability, b&s, bottom feeders, etc. (I know that there are exceptions to this, but for the most part, it is filled with less-than-professional service providers.) on both sides of the equation. Why would you really expect smart, savvy, got-their-shit-together girls to be looking for a serious guy on BP or CL when they can post an ad and have dozens of guys coming to them?

I'm really not trying to be a dick here. without asking you to show what you've posted, I'm trying to get you to look at your own ad/ask and consider if it is clear and if it truly is something that a girl would take & treat seriously.

$150, even for "just" face smothering and massage, is not a lot of money in the Toronto market. So the question is what are you doing to separate your ad from the countless other sugar daddy-type posts (many of which are made by creeps, pimps, game-players and idiots) that are out there to attract what you're looking for?
 
So my regular SP has told me she is retiring in 5 months so I've been placing ads on BP and CL. My frustration level has made me want to throw in the towel which is pretty sad.

For starters, my regular SP acts like it's a privilege to see her. She sends me text like I should be jumping at the chance to see her because she is getting out of the biz. It's like, hey, when you get into the real world (she has gone to school and is almost done), you'll see how hard it is to make in a hour what I give you. I get the fact your providing a pretty amazing service, but you also get paid quite adequately for it.

So because of this, I've been posting on BP and CL for her replacement. The attitudes of these chicks kill me. The first response is always super sweet and nice. After that, is like I should be chasing them down to take my money. To the point where I even told one girl to fuck off. Do they not realize what we offer them in a hour is far beyond what most people make in the real world. This got me thinking "is there that many guys willing to throw that kind of money at these women that they can act like this?" I've gotten to the point where I'm totally turned off.

I don't even understand why they reply to my ad in the first place if they are going act like I should be thanking them for the privilege to talk to them after the first email. The first email usually goes something like "hey hun, saw your add on BP and would love to talk to more. I'm really sexy with a round booty and very friendly personality"

By the time we get to the third email and trying to make arrangements to meet up, it's the same old bull shit. I have to email them and ask if they're still interested. Then it's like they totally forgot who I am. It's "what are you looking for again?" "What do you look like?" Followed by these responses that show very little interest.

It's like, okay, you respond to my ad, then I have come after you to remind you who's ad you responded to, see if I'm okay looking enough for you, and hope you'll take my 150 for 45 minutes of work???

I'm about ready to throw in the towel on this shit. Just wondering if anyone else ever gets this frustrated
I think the problem you might be running into is, you might not be forwarding your emails. I get a small number of people who make a new email every time they talk to me and it makes it really difficult to know who I am talking to. It really hard for sp's to keep track especially when they could be talking to 20+ people a day. It doesn't get much better on their end either. Try to be clear and to the point right away and use your name several times. If you want them to remember you, you'll have to stand out a bit

Being the guy who wants to find a new regular girl to see is a common thing that people (especially the jerky guy's that like to name call an degrade sp's) say and it usually means they are looking for a discount right away and that's usually how the guys who ask for BBFS end up starting out their emails.

Your probably best to just answer a few ads you like and visit a few sp's and if you like one stick with her. Don't get discouraged. I usually don't bother responding to people who are looking for a new girl unless they are super polite.
 
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black booty lover

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U mad bro? :)

We have no idea what you posted, where you posted (section, etc.) or how clear you were in your queries. If it's like your posts here, I can understand why there might be some "confusion".

Backpage is known for its lack of reliability, b&s, bottom feeders, etc. (I know that there are exceptions to this, but for the most part, it is filled with less-than-professional service providers.) on both sides of the equation. Why would you really expect smart, savvy, got-their-shit-together girls to be looking for a serious guy on BP or CL when they can post an ad and have dozens of guys coming to them?

I'm really not trying to be a dick here. without asking you to show what you've posted, I'm trying to get you to look at your own ad/ask and consider if it is clear and if it truly is something that a girl would take & treat seriously.

$150, even for "just" face smothering and massage, is not a lot of money in the Toronto market. So the question is what are you doing to separate your ad from the countless other sugar daddy-type posts (many of which are made by creeps, pimps, game-players and idiots) that are out there to attract what you're looking for?

okay well now your answering my question and shedding some light on stuff. I mean my add is pretty straight forward and simple. It basically reads "looking for a blk female with big booty for massage and face smothering". Then when you click on my add it says " I'm a 39 white male D&D free, friendly and down to earth. Looking for a blk female with a big booty willing to give a massage, followed by face smothering and release at the end. I should also mention I'm looking for something ongoing, not a one time thing. If interested, please contact me with your age, a pic, and if you can host. I'm also willing to send a few pics back if your selective about your clients"

Not really that complicated if you ask me.

I still think it's a pretty good gig. How many people do you know make 150 bucks in 45 minutes?

If 150 for 45 minutes is cheap and the Toronto market demands more than that, then ya I'm throwing in the towel. I figure with so many females out there looking for money, one would have a decent head on her shoulders and say "hey, I'll do that to pay on my phone and internet bill every month".
 

black booty lover

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You're right, Miss Chantelle. She's very pretty.

Problem is you're suggesting the OP contact her and pay rates she has set for service.

Whereas he wants the lovely lady to beg him to bang her for bottom bucks.
yet another classic example of ignorance. I guess you missed the part where I said I wasn't even looking for full service or bj's just a massage and face smothering.

Also looks like ms.blu is only available feb 28 and 29th. I'm looking for something ongoing.

but this is a perfect example I guess.
 

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Then they get back to me and things seem good.
Great.

so I start to ask when they would like to hook up, that's when I get the replies of "what are you looking for again"
Your reply to that should be short, crisp, and actionable.

"I want to book you Xday at Y thirty for n min session, XYZ service @$price. Are we good?"

If you are going into "but do you really love me?" emails at that point red flags are going up that you are not serious. Who cares if she remembers your previous email.
 

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I've offered girls hundreds of dollars just to meet me for coffee and didn't get any takers lol. Girls are sitting on a gold mine, dude. They need men / our business like Jonah Hill needs weight gain shakes.
 

black booty lover

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Great.



Your reply to that should be short, crisp, and actionable.

"I want to book you Xday at Y thirty for n min session, XYZ service @$price. Are we good?"

If you are going into "but do you really love me?" emails at that point red flags are going up that you are not serious. Who cares if she remembers your previous email.
I understand, but I guess my point (which seems that I'm wrong judging by the reaction of most of the responses) is that you'd think if a women/sp is going to take the time to respond (as she chose this as profession/means to make money), she'd be putting a little more effort into the fact she's getting paid. I understand 150 for 45 minutes isn't crazy money compaired to high end agencies, and yes they are providing a pretty exclusive service, but it's still a lot of money for 45 minutes. I bet even if I up it to 200 for the hour (which I can't really afford) I'll still get the same time wasters and people not reading my ad properly. My point is, from a business perspective, if I'm a female and trying to bring in a male as client, I don't think it should be that difficult to respond with "yes bbl. I understand what your looking for and willing to provide it for the agreed amount. I'm available xyz days"

That's all I'm asking for, hence my frustration. I think captain fantastic hit the nail on the head about back page. It's full bottom feeders ect. TeasePlease also gets what I'm saying, as he said "there are a lot of flakes out there"



I really would go through and regular agency but non-of them ever have the type of women I like. I go on dream makers like once a month and they never have any black girls. I've looked at many agencies and they barley have black women, and when they do they think tall runway model types. I like thicker girls which is one of the reasons I post on bp but I'm giving up. Part of the problem is I was also looking for a semi-or non pro because I thought dating at the O would be a bit safer.

Anyway, I'm done with my rant. It is what it is I guess.

Just that today, after agreeing with the above terms with yet another female and thought I had my new provider, emailed her today, she couldn't remember who I was, what I was looking for, what my offer was ect....

It was just like "fuck !!!!!" he we go again.
 
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