Do you accept Rob Ford's apology?

[Butler1000]

Civic leadership is not the place for an active alcoholic and drug user. What happens to drug addicts and alcoholics in the private sector is neither here nor there. Joe Blow at your dad's company isn't the head of a government. It's interesting how lovey-dovey and oh-so-compassionate you feel towards Ford. I truly wonder what you would be saying if Ford came from the left? You were probably one of the people harping about Smitherman's past drug use. Ford apologists and media sycophants like Joe Warmington are like the co-dependent spouse of some horribly abusive alcoholic.

Don't get me wrong. I won't be voting for him. But I won't kick him when he's down either.

My point about the culture of public shaming is this....is their any apology, any words that will satisfy everyone. I doubt it. He apologized without excuse, didn't blame anyone but himself. That he didn't name a 1000 names of people seems to be the issue. Everyone wants a personal apology.

In other words some of them are not prepared to be the better person here.

As for the media don't doubt they aren't loving this. This is their bread and butter. And they will never let up. Not while its selling advertising. Please note that an attempted boycott of the press conference failed miserably. And it was reported that reporters were begging to get in.

I want him out. But I don't take things personally from politicians. Why people are in this case is beyond me. I'm not ranting about Wynne. She is in. Fine. But upset? Why bother.

 

[fuji]

Here is the thing:

I don't believe him.

His world's fastest recovery in rehab is political showmanship. He is saying whatever he thinks people are supposed to say. He doesn't mean a word of it.

 

[elise]

With all that baggage I can't see Ford being elected - I know I'm not voting for him. Then again, nobody saw Wynne getting a majority either, so God knows what can happen.

Didn't Marion Barry another crack head mayor get reelected?

 

[userz]

Don't get me wrong. I won't be voting for him. But I won't kick him when he's down either.

My point about the culture of public shaming is this....is their any apology, any words that will satisfy everyone. I doubt it. He apologized without excuse, didn't blame anyone but himself. That he didn't name a 1000 names of people seems to be the issue. Everyone wants a personal apology.

In other words some of them are not prepared to be the better person here.

As for the media don't doubt they aren't loving this. This is their bread and butter. And they will never let up. Not while its selling advertising. Please note that an attempted boycott of the press conference failed miserably. And it was reported that reporters were begging to get in.

I want him out. But I don't take things personally from politicians. Why people are in this case is beyond me. I'm not ranting about Wynne. She is in. Fine. But upset? Why bother.

He has been doing nothing but apologizing for one thing after another since November only to do something even more egregious each and every time. Besides which, his apologies are of the "I'm sorry if I've offended you, it's in the past" variety and not unqualified apologies. If he were truly sorry he would immediately step aside as an act of contrition along with Doug. Leave politics and just get out of sight and not come back. Not in 2018 or 2022, or 2026, just go away for good. Stop going on talk radio and phoning people like Warmington at the Sun. No more Kimmel. He would let himself become a largely forgotten footnote with at best a question relating to him in a future version of Trivial Pursuit or Jeopardy.

 

[Ref]

You are hopelessly blinded by your political views if you think Wynne or any other Canadian leader has a worse track record than Ford. No Canadian leader past or present comes anywhere close to Ford's record of clusterfucks and buffoonery. He is a disgrace to the city and country and if he were truly sorry and in recovery he would step aside and not hold the city hostage until October.

Are you serious? Ford is an embarrassment, a buffoon and a loud mouthed drunk, but I'll take his fiscal agenda over the past 10 years of liberal waste and corruption.

I do not care for Fords behavior and participation in illegal activities, but I also do not care for the corruption and illegal actions of the Liberal party.

The poor decisions and waste of taxpayers funds by the Liberals has cost me (us) more than the drunken behavior of Ford.

As per Ford holding the city hostage until October - He has zero power. Deputy Mayor Kelly is running the circus. Ford is just campaigning.

 

[userz]

Are you serious? Ford is an embarrassment, a buffoon and a loud mouthed drunk, but I'll take his fiscal agenda over the past 10 years of liberal waste and corruption.

I do not care for Fords behavior and participation in illegal activities, but I also do not care for the corruption and illegal actions of the Liberal party.

The poor decisions and waste of taxpayers funds by the Liberals has cost me (us) more than the drunken behavior of Ford.

As per Ford holding the city hostage until October - He has zero power. Deputy Mayor Kelly is running the circus. Ford is just campaigning.

OK I'll bite. Please describe in detail Ford's fiscal agenda and a list of his accomplishments to date, along with information about the illegal actions of the Liberal Party of Ontario.

 

[james t kirk]

Don't care. He did the job he said he was going to do when the voters elected him. His personal life is his own mess.

Really?

Is being a racist part of the job description?

How about consorting with guys with extensive criminal records?

Or for that matter, buying hard drugs from guys who attempt to blackmail you?

Is being a homophobe part of the job of being mayor?

Or being so fucked up on drugs and booze that you don't show up to work day after day, week after week? Is that part of the job description?

How about driving drunk?

Or how about using your position as mayor to repeatedly lobby for your own personal interests?

The guy is a fucking train wreck, never mind the crack use and the constant drunken state

 

[james t kirk]

People talk about Ford's fiscal responsibility.

All the guy ever does is vote no against anything that involves any sort of spending. There was a vote a while back about the City hiring 2 or 3 public nurses to work with AIDS patients and the ENTIRE council voted for it, and Ford was the lone vote against. Even though the province was going to pay their salaries. Ford's reason was that it was taxpayer's money regardless of who was going to pay for it and he didn't want to spend the money.

The guy just doesn't think, or want to think, or can think. It's just no, all the time.

And as far as any good that came out of Ford's run as Mayor, the FACT is that it was always Doug Holyday who was the man behind the curtain who was the responsible one. Holyday was the one who made private garbage collection happen, not Ford. Ford could not organize a lemonade stand. Holyday was the thankless hero. Same with the budgets, same with the deal with unions. Ford wouldn't know where to even start. Since Holyday left, Ford is at a standstill. (Other than doing crack.) I'd betcha bragging rights that Holyday got so fed up with Ford's antics that he left City Hall. He simply could not handle working with the buffoon any longer.

 

[AdamH]

All the guy ever does is vote no against anything that involves any sort of spending. There was a vote a while back about the City hiring 2 or 3 public nurses to work with AIDS patients and the ENTIRE council voted for it, and Ford was the lone vote against. Even though the province was going to pay their salaries. Ford's reason was that it was taxpayer's money regardless of who was going to pay for it and he didn't want to spend the money.

Technically I think his argument was closer to "Sure, the province will pay for it now. But they might pull the funding later, and then we'll either be stuck with the bill, or we'll have to cancel another program".. Which isn't entirely impossible (or even unlikely).. Still.. A stupid reason for turning down what amounts to "free" (for lack of a better term) nurses for patients in need for even a few years.

I definitely feel that it was almost entirely Doug Holyday's doing that stopped any strikes, and made garbage collection happen.. Ford has demonstrated time and time again how he cannot drive any consensus on council.. For fuck's sakes, look at what happened when he tried to get rid of the bag "tax", or what happened to his brainchild (or shall I say brain fart) the Sheppard Subway extension...

The man is simply a narcissistic moron.. I think if we created a government position called "King of the Earth" (whose only job would be to complain about 'lefties", and give colour commentary on local football games on talk radio) Rob Ford would drop out of the mayoral race and simply run for that..

 

[userz]

Technically I think his argument was closer to "Sure, the province will pay for it now. But they might pull the funding later, and then we'll either be stuck with the bill, or we'll have to cancel another program".. Which isn't entirely impossible (or even unlikely).. Still.. A stupid reason for turning down what amounts to "free" (for lack of a better term) nurses for patients in need for even a few years..

There was no rationale or coherent argument, he just votes against anything involving spending, his shtick just consists of being a senseless asshole and nothing else. I doubt he even understands half of what he is voting against. Fiscal responsibility, sure, would having the street Deco is on repaved because it's their 50th anniversary be an example of this? Or giving his criminal friends cushy jobs at taxpayer expense? Removing new bike lanes on Jarvis? Either Slob or Thug voted against a motion last November thanking veterans for their service to Canada, because they obviously don't know WTF they're voting against at any given time and just vote NO to everything and anything.

 

[fuji]

There was no rationale, he just votes against anything involving spending. Fiscal responsibility, sure, would having the street Deco is on repaved because it's their 50th anniversary be an example of this? Or giving his criminal friends cushy jobs at taxpayer expense? Removing new bike lanes on Jarvis?

He lobbies the city on behalf of Deco's customers as well, trying to get tax breaks for his business partners.

 

[wigglee]

Don't care. He did the job he said he was going to do when the voters elected him. His personal life is his own mess.

No....he was drunk and offensive to blacks, gays and women while on the job. He wanted to fire the city worker who fell asleep on the job after the first offense, yet Ford thinks he gets a free pass everytime he says "sorry" .