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Nazi flags, white supremacists- the usual bogey men. In reality there were less than a dozen unknown, masked individuals for the pleasure of the hungry media. But, sure. Everyone who wants to return to normal is a white supremacist Nazi which, according to Angus Reid, is 54% of the population. Maybe it's time to ask yourself who is the "fringe"?
The fringe is those willing to protest with white supremacists.
 

jcpro

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Everybody in Canada wants to return to normal life.

That is not helped by flying Nazi flags and making life hell for people living and working in Ottawa.

Who is the fringe? The answer is rigjt in front of you.
I can't believe you are buying this bullshit about the "flags". The participants themselves documented those "whatevers" and got rid of them.Clearly the masked individuals were not part of the rally. But, this is our reality: tear down moments, put swastikas on Israeli flags, burn down a few buildings- a mostly peaceful demonstration. Do the opposite and you're a white supremacist. Sad.
 

Frankfooter

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I can't believe you are buying this bullshit about the "flags". The participants themselves documented those "whatevers" and got rid of them.Clearly the masked individuals were not part of the rally. But, this is our reality: tear down moments, put swastikas on Israeli flags, burn down a few buildings- a mostly peaceful demonstration. Do the opposite and you're a white supremacist. Sad.
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danmand

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I can't believe you are buying this bullshit about the "flags". The participants themselves documented those "whatevers" and got rid of them.Clearly the masked individuals were not part of the rally. But, this is our reality: tear down moments, put swastikas on Israeli flags, burn down a few buildings- a mostly peaceful demonstration. Do the opposite and you're a white supremacist. Sad.
They did not get rid of the Nazi flags early enough.

And it is never going to create sympathy for a cause, if you fly Nazi flags, desecrate monuments and burn down buildings.
Neither does it create goodwill if you disrupt people from their business or prevent them from going about their regular lives.

Did you not post that people wanted to return to normal life? Why not residents in Ottawa?
 
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jcpro

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They did not get rid of the Nazi flags early enough.

And it is never going to create sympathy for a cause, if you fly Nazi flags, desecrate monuments and burn down buildings.
Neither does it create goodwill if you disrupt people from their business or prevent them from going about their regular lives..
Keep drinking the cool aid.

 
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Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.

In modern politics, liberty is the state of being free within society from control or oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views.

What do liberals believe today?
Liberals believe in liberty and vote for the actual liberal parry - the Conservatives. People who believe in authoritarian regime and robbing hard-working people call themselves liberals and vote for socialists Liberal party
 

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Back in the 80 and 90's we were saying lack of communications was the main source of hate between populations.

How fucking wrong were we!!
The mistake was, we assumed other people were smart.

But remember, in the 80’s and 90’s, we still watched the same news. Now you you ignore real news all day and all night and turn on the “it’s the Liberals fault” news 24/7. Get lost in the echo chamber. Start a militia. Storm a Capitol. Freedom bitches!!!!
 

mandrill

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Everyone who disagrees with you is an extremist, white supremacist, fascist, etc. That has been established years ago.
I actually think Frankie made a pretty good point there - which is probably why you immediately switched to a personal attack.
 
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mandrill

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That's true, too. I'd say the conservative and the liberals switch places. The righties are now representing the working class and the lefties the billionaires.
You mean "the working class" like the QAnon Shaman and other stalwarts?

The right's pretty good at supporting folks like that. The rest of us felt more sorry for the hard-working, loyal Capitol police. But the right doesn't give a shit about people who turn up for their job and do what has to be done to feed their families. The right cares for the unemployable shit-disturbers who pretend to be working class.
 
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Frankfooter

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Liberals believe in liberty and vote for the actual liberal parry - the Conservatives. People who believe in authoritarian regime and robbing hard-working people call themselves liberals and vote for socialists Liberal party
Is that why there is much book banning going on in that pinko state, Texas?
 
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jcpro

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You mean "the working class" like the QAnon Shaman and other stalwarts?

The right's pretty good at supporting folks like that. The rest of us felt more sorry for the hard-working, loyal Capitol police. But the right doesn't give a shit about people who turn up for their job and do what has to be done to feed their families. The right cares for the unemployable shit-disturbers who pretend to be working class.
I'm sorry. I'm not fluent in gibberish and I'm too old to learn it.
 
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That's true, too. I'd say the conservative and the liberals switch places. The righties are now representing the working class and the lefties the billionaires.
Conservatives are conning the working class but they're still working for themselves and the rich. Liberals are playing to the woke middle class
 
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