Digital SLR camera?

mitosis26

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So it's been a few years since I got my point-and-shoot digital camera, and as I get more and more into the hobby of photography, I want to start taking pictures with DSLR.
Anyone out there who can recommend a good/decent SLR camera for beginners?

Thank you!
 

lovelatinas

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Canon or Nikon both have good entry level DSLRs for beginners for around $1000 and they capture HD video too. Don't invest too much in the camera body and put the money on a good lens. I had a Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L lens, it's canon's pro lineup of lenses I bought 4 years ago for $1250 and resold this year for $1100, these lenses hold their value on the resale market.
 

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I want to start taking pictures with DSLR.
This subject comes up periodically. WHY DO YOU FEEL YOU NEED A DSLR? I tried the Nikon D5000 and Canon T1i. They are both a piece of crap. I even tried that $1,000 Panasonic "4/3" camera (also a piece of crap).
 

mitosis26

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Rockslinger, I did try to take some photos with a dslr and the results were tremendous, amazing stuff that I was never able to get via point-and-shoot. Are you suggesting that despite what you purchased, you find no difference at all? none?
 

Rockslinger

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I did try to take some photos with a dslr and the results were tremendous, amazing stuff that I was never able to get via point-and-shoot. Are you suggesting that despite what you purchased, you find no difference at all? none?
What P&S were you using? Maybe it was an inferior P&S and therefore the DSLR looked tremendous by comparison.

I tried the Nikon D5000 (with a speedlight) and the Canon T1i and they were terrible. From memory here is a truncated list of their deficiencies.
1) Liveview only works in certain settings, not all.
2) Terrible close-ups. So I was advised to buy a special "macro" lense for several hundred dollars.
3) Terrible flash on close-ups. So, I was advised to buy a special "macro" flash.
4) In a dimly lit living room, the pics came out very bland, colours were pastel. Focussing also a problem. The aperature on the 18-55 lense only opens to f3.5 and not f2.8. So, I was advised to spend more money to buy a special f1.8 lense.
5) To get a zoom greater than 3x optical, I would have to spend more money to buy another lense.

Long story short, I probably could get a slightly better pic with a DSLR if I spend thousands of dollars on lenses and external flashes, lug all that shit around and be prepared to keep switching lenses and flashes (pain in the neck).

The DSLR's were faster on shot to shot lags and could shoot a 1,000 frames a second but those features aren't important to me. Their HD videos are probably better but again not important to me.
 

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really rockslinger?

i got a T1 went it came out and was quite happy by it, took great close up shots even with the standard lens

and i never really had a problem with the 'dimply lit living room'- bump up iso and try and lengthen the shutter speed

but im an amateur, you guys probably know alot more

im looking in to buy the 50mm lens on sale at best buy
 

Rockslinger

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i got a T1 went it came out and was quite happy by it, took great close up shots even with the standard lens
So, you were using the 18-55 lens that came with the camera? How close did you come? Were you able to take a nice pic of a pocket book cover?

and i never really had a problem with the 'dimply lit living room'- bump up iso and try and lengthen the shutter speed
Bumping up the ISO degrades the quality of the pic. I shoot at ISO 64 with a flash so the shutter speed is at 1/45.



im looking in to buy the 50mm lens on sale at best buy
Is this the f1.8 lense? If yes, there is a practical problem in using it.
 

Damondean

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The first thing to consider is what you want to do with the camera. DSLRs tend to stay home. There are now many cameras of equal quality that are smaller and not DSLRs such as the Canon G12, Canon s95 or some of the Lumix models.

This site has a lot of info. The guy is opinionated but the info is good.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/


Also, there was a recent long thread on this. You may want to do a search.
 

Rockslinger

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An old 2003 Samsung V4 Digimax.
S&P's have come a long way since 2003. You may want to try the newer S&P models before getting into a bulky DSLR with a bunch of interchangeable lens and external flashes. The DSLR's that I have tried are better in the following areas.
1) Faster shot to shot speed if this is important to you.
2) They can shoot 3 or more frames per second if this is important to you.
3) I heard they can "freeze" a bird in flight.
4) I heard they can shoot in virtual darkness without flash.
 

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Speed of the lens and the size of the sensor are the most important factors these days. Don't be oversold on mega pixels. Having 14 mega pixal's with a tiny sensor is like have a 5 inch flat panel TV that supports 1080p.

The reason DSLRs take better pics is lens and sensor size.

Go to a quality camera store and get them to go through the specs on a few cameras as a comparison. Unfortunately sensor size is not a standard measurement. It kinda like the early days of TV advertising when they labeled a tv as a 30 inch which included the wood cabinet!
 

mitosis26

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S&P's have come a long way since 2003. You may want to try the newer S&P models before getting into a bulky DSLR with a bunch of interchangeable lens and external flashes. The DSLR's that I have tried are better in the following areas.
1) Faster shot to shot speed if this is important to you.
2) They can shoot 3 or more frames per second if this is important to you.
3) I heard they can "freeze" a bird in flight.
4) I heard they can shoot in virtual darkness without flash.
these all in fact matter to me, so this is really helpful, Rockslinger.
 

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Figure out your budget, then go to a store and get a feel for the different cameras in your hand and see which you like.
Then get any of the big name brands out there and you'll be fine.
Tons of sites out there, www.dpreview.com is a better place to dig around
 

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Figure out your budget, then go to a store and get a feel for the different cameras in your hand and see which you like.
Then get any of the big name brands out there and you'll be fine.
Tons of sites out there, www.dpreview.com is a better place to dig around
I would agree, dbr is the best in depth source. You'll have to pick a team (Nikon or Canon) and then there are very good cameras to chose from. Spend a little less on the camera and a little more on the lenses.... you'll keep them longer than the camera.

OTB
 

Cinema Face

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What P&S were you using? Maybe it was an inferior P&S and therefore the DSLR looked tremendous by comparison.

I tried the Nikon D5000 (with a speedlight) and the Canon T1i and they were terrible. From memory here is a truncated list of their deficiencies.
1) Liveview only works in certain settings, not all.
2) Terrible close-ups. So I was advised to buy a special "macro" lense for several hundred dollars.
3) Terrible flash on close-ups. So, I was advised to buy a special "macro" flash.
4) In a dimly lit living room, the pics came out very bland, colours were pastel. Focussing also a problem. The aperature on the 18-55 lense only opens to f3.5 and not f2.8. So, I was advised to spend more money to buy a special f1.8 lense.
5) To get a zoom greater than 3x optical, I would have to spend more money to buy another lense.

Long story short, I probably could get a slightly better pic with a DSLR if I spend thousands of dollars on lenses and external flashes, lug all that shit around and be prepared to keep switching lenses and flashes (pain in the neck).

The DSLR's were faster on shot to shot lags and could shoot a 1,000 frames a second but those features aren't important to me. Their HD videos are probably better but again not important to me.
With that logic, why buy a knife, scissors, nail file, screw driver, fish scaler, bottle opener and a cork screw when you can just buy a Swiss army knife?


Modern PS cameras are fantastic. I have probably one of the best ones, the Canon S90, (now the S95) and I’ve got so much imaging power in my pocket but a DSLR, it ain’t.

My DSLR (Nikon D200) is a superior camera in every way. The image quality doesn’t compare and it will blow any DSLR away in terms of speed and versatility. The downside is it isn’t very portable.

The best in the world is the one you have with you when you need it.

All the camera companies make descent products. It comes down to features, price and brand preferences.

I’ve looked at the Nikon D3100 as well as the Pentax Kx and they seem like excellent choices.
 

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i picked up a olympus micro 4/3rds for taking with me or street photography and such... now i feel when i pull out my Canon and various lens i am going to work.... carrying the 50 85 70-200 flash extra battery etc etc..... depends what you want to do.....i can fit 4 lens and peripherals in a small messenger plus daily trekking stuff for the olympus.... great for travel and walk arounds. the picture quality on the canon you can't beat ... but the m4/3rds is pretty great quality too.
 
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