Detailed list of scientists against climate change

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There are exceptions, but most research coming out of Russia have caveats attached to them regularly and are seldom taken at face value to quickly.

I don't remember how many e-mails there were, but I doubt a majority have been read b y anyone, certainly not by posters on this BB (I know I got other things to do), and there a good chance they're cherry-picked something fierce. I'm not defending these guys one bit, as they have set things back years, but they weren't the only one ones working this street and there's still credible work piled to the ceiling that put forth a strong body of evidence.
Actually there is at least one person who read most if not all the e-mails as well as the attached data.

This bit of news was not part of the data affected by the e-mails . The facts of the data adjustment were determined and released by the Russian body responsible in the last couple of weeks.

The data from Russia was sent or collected as a mass dump ie., all the data for all the stations was sent to the collecting agency. The data was apparantly then sorted through and the data that met the requirements was used for the research.
 

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Actually there is at least one person who read most if not all the e-mails as well as the attached data.

This bit of news was not part of the data affected by the e-mails . The facts of the data adjustment were determined and released by the Russian body responsible in the last couple of weeks.

The data from Russia was sent or collected as a mass dump ie., all the data for all the stations was sent to the collecting agency. The data was apparantly then sorted through and the data that met the requirements was used for the research.
I don't totally dump on Russian scientist and techies as in some things, they are the best in the world, but I have learned from first hand experience , caveat emptor. I've heard a figure of over 2000 e-mails, That's alot of 0's and 1's.
 

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I don't totally dump on Russian scientist and techies as in some things, they are the best in the world, but I have learned from first hand experience , caveat emptor. I've heard a figure of over 2000 e-mails, That's alot of 0's and 1's.
They have saome of the very best in the world at what they do, the only problem is that they tend to be very narrowly focused , and that is not really a problem more of an observation, western types tend to be a little wider with their focus, an issue of the schools and the teaching methods more than anything I expect.

Its actually more than 3000 plus assorted data, and it looks like a whistle blower as opposed to a hacker. But thats not my detail.

The russian data was apparantly cherry picked after reciept. At least thats what is coming out of Russia presently, they have the full data sets that were sent and there is apparantly a descrepancy in the data that was used. I expect next week a full comparison will be out on the web.
 

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They have saome of the very best in the world at what they do, the only problem is that they tend to be very narrowly focused.....
Sort of like the Corporatist apologist crowd that is in denial about global warming, eh...;)
 

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Just wondering if you have a different channel this one keeps replaying the same old boring shit
Don't be too hard on the old man. He's been lost and depressed ever since the object of his delusions has been tragically snatched away from him.

Wallowing in self-pity, bottles of empty oxy-contin strewn all over his unkempt apartment and emptied industrial-sized barrels of Kool-Aid powder arranged into a fortress of denial, paint a sad yet compelling portrait of deep loss and lament.

Sad and melodic mutterings of.....

"Dubya come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Dubya come back, don't blame it all on me
I am now lost, and I just can't get live without you."

......painfully pierce the emptiness of what now remains.
 

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Fear not andy ditzy Sarah will fill that void.
She's the gift that keeps giving........doggone it....:p
 
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