Demi Lovato

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She demands we call her They
She addresses herself as I instead of We.

Clown Shoes.
 

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Can two non-binary people engage in sex? Asking for a friend.
Actually if they want to have sex with you, you don't have the right to turn them down.

I am using they and them because I am referring to multiple potential people.

This who call me they them is full core full potato retarded.
You are a single person.
It's double plus special needs when Ellen Page started claiming to be a dude and wanted to be referred to as they/them. Mother fucker, if you think of yourself as a dude, you are not they them. I can't that idiot too seriously.
I sort of wonder if some people somewhere are just taking the piss and trying to figure out how much they can make the woke folks jump to their tune.
 

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Why do people care if someone wants you to use a certain pronoun? How does it affect you?

I mean if someone goes by William/Will/Willy/Bill/Billy id use whichever version they want. So how is this different?

Ive met trans people where they legit just seem more at ease identifying as a different gender. And i can also say that looking back on them before they came out(for lack of a better term) it made sense all along. So i truly believe some people are just born wired differently.

These are the same people who probably use terms like snowflake yet they are bent out of shape over something that doesnt chsnge their day in the least.
 

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Why do people care if someone wants you to use a certain pronoun? How does it affect you?

I mean if someone goes by William/Will/Willy/Bill/Billy id use whichever version they want. So how is this different?

Ive met trans people where they legit just seem more at ease identifying as a different gender. And i can also say that looking back on them before they came out(for lack of a better term) it made sense all along. So i truly believe some people are just born wired differently.

These are the same people who probably use terms like snowflake yet they are bent out of shape over something that doesnt chsnge their day in the least.
Because every time I read an article or hear a story with the use of they them when referring to one person it irks me to no end. "Wait what group, oh its one of those" over and over. Every time I see it, it gets on my nerves. It's very jarring and thus it does change if not my day, at least my 15 minutes. I don't get upset with whom/who as I don't know the difference myself, likewise people often don't know the difference between then and than, There, Their, They're. However some people do get upset and it isn't because they use terms like snowflake it's because incorrect useage of grammar annoys them as they understand the rules of grammar. If anything I'd suspect your typical grammar national socialist would be less inclined to use the term snowflake than your average slob.

Using They Their when referring to a particular person is wrong and it isn't an error people normally make so you get used to it. It's a bit like saying Me fail English, that's unpossible.

But yeah, if you are the right sort of people, everyone has to accept your bullshit and shut the fuck up. I get it.

It's quite a bit different from asking people to call you a different name variant.
It is also scads different from a trans person being asked to be referred to by the other pronouns as those pronouns are still meant to be addressed by a single person. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck, just to get along, I'll call it a duck even if we all know it's a chicken. Although my willingness to do so is less and less as time goes on.
 

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Because every time I read an article or hear a story with the use of they them when referring to one person it irks me to no end. "Wait what group, oh its one of those" over and over. Every time I see it, it gets on my nerves. It's very jarring and thus it does change if not my day, at least my 15 minutes. I don't get upset with whom/who as I don't know the difference myself, likewise people often don't know the difference between then and than, There, Their, They're. However some people do get upset and it isn't because they use terms like snowflake it's because incorrect useage of grammar annoys them as they understand the rules of grammar. If anything I'd suspect your typical grammar national socialist would be less inclined to use the term snowflake than your average slob.

Using They Their when referring to a particular person is wrong and it isn't an error people normally make so you get used to it. It's a bit like saying Me fail English, that's unpossible.

But yeah, if you are the right sort of people, everyone has to accept your bullshit and shut the fuck up. I get it.

It's quite a bit different from asking people to call you a different name variant.
It is also scads different from a trans person being asked to be referred to by the other pronouns as those pronouns are still meant to be addressed by a single person. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck, just to get along, I'll call it a duck even if we all know it's a chicken. Although my willingness to do so is less and less as time goes on.
Come on dont hide behind grammar as an excuse.

At least be honest that it makes you uncomfortable.

I mean you do realize language changes right? At one point we used to use thee and thy
 

frankcastle

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Because every time I read an article or hear a story with the use of they them when referring to one person it irks me to no end. "Wait what group, oh its one of those" over and over. Every time I see it, it gets on my nerves. It's very jarring and thus it does change if not my day, at least my 15 minutes. I don't get upset with whom/who as I don't know the difference myself, likewise people often don't know the difference between then and than, There, Their, They're. However some people do get upset and it isn't because they use terms like snowflake it's because incorrect useage of grammar annoys them as they understand the rules of grammar. If anything I'd suspect your typical grammar national socialist would be less inclined to use the term snowflake than your average slob.

Using They Their when referring to a particular person is wrong and it isn't an error people normally make so you get used to it. It's a bit like saying Me fail English, that's unpossible.

But yeah, if you are the right sort of people, everyone has to accept your bullshit and shut the fuck up. I get it.

It's quite a bit different from asking people to call you a different name variant.
It is also scads different from a trans person being asked to be referred to by the other pronouns as those pronouns are still meant to be addressed by a single person. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck, just to get along, I'll call it a duck even if we all know it's a chicken. Although my willingness to do so is less and less as time goes on.
Plus you're choosing to just see how you are being put out and asked to in speak in a certain way but you're probably overlooking common courtesies people afford you on a daily basis. You just don't realize it because it is normal. Trans acceptance is still in its early stages so it seems weird to you but give it time it will seem normal and i guarantee that your life will be no different.....however that trans person's life will be getting closer to yours (in terms of quality)

Me personally im all for change im super happy with pot legalization and i hope psylocibin and mdma cross over to therapeutic and hopefully recreational use. Same with i beleive we will see strides in sex work as well. So ill happily oblige them on whatever pronouns they want and ill be enjoying my drugs and sex workers.
 

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They them... whatever. I still don't understand how you'd use it in a sentence. I've got nothing against trans and I'm quite willing to call someone with a dick and a miniskirt she if they act feminine. But all the new pronouns confuse me. It sounds like a desperate appeal for attention by people with emotional issues. I don't know exactly what non-binary means, but I'd do Demi.
 

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I have a family member very close to me. They were born female but don't identify as female. They also don't identify as male. Really, for them, they/them is the only choice. It makes them happy and it's no skin off of my nose so what's the difference? I can look at and appreciate the appearance of Demi Lovato but if being non-binary makes them happy, why wouldn't I refer to them as such?
 

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This new generation of gender-identity justice advocates wants people to feel obligated to affirm their identity—they want privileges for their difference.
 

james t kirk

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Who cares.

She he they can do whatever floats their boat. I don't even know who Demi Lovato is nor do I care nor do I understand why Demi Lovato feels the need to broadcast this to the world. But knock yourself out Demi.

As to pronouns, again, I don't care. I find the whole issue silly frankly. I find it confusing, if I offend someone because they want me to use 2 of 40 available new pronouns that they feel applies to them and I fuck up and use the same pronouns I've been using all my life based on my best guess as to whether that person appears masculine or feminine, oh well, sorry about that buddy. Off to work I go to pay my taxes that will go to fund never ending government commissions done by legions of incompetent fools who will write some stupid report on the issue that will cost 200 million dollars that no-one will even fucking read.

Whatever.
 

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Because every time I read an article or hear a story with the use of they them when referring to one person it irks me to no end. "Wait what group, oh its one of those" over and over. Every time I see it, it gets on my nerves. It's very jarring and thus it does change if not my day, at least my 15 minutes.
So why again? Why does someone wanting to be addressed as “they” piss you off for 15 mins! Like seriously. THAT is something I don’t get. Why anyone would allow something like this to piss them off so much.

So besides the grammar excuse, why does it piss you off so much? What is the actual true reason? Because what you are saying doesn’t really make any sense to be pissed off this much.
 

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So, if I self identify as a deity, can I demand everyone address me as "Almighty"

And I think a man has a right to be offended if a woman dresses like him and pretends to be a guy, and vice versa. I mean Black people reserve the right to be offended if Justin Beiber wears dreadlocks, labelling it cultural appropriation.

This is simply gender appropriation.
 

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We lemurs got with the program a long time ago.
 

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if I offend someone because they want me to use 2 of 40 available new pronouns that they feel applies to them and I fuck up and use the same pronouns I've been using all my life based on my best guess as to whether that person appears masculine or feminine, oh well, sorry about that buddy.
I agree.

I live by a simple rule, I calls it as I sees it.

My philosophy is this;
If you are a guy identifying as a woman, and I see you and call you "he", it's not my fault. You failed at your stated goal of being a woman. You still look like a Guy. Try harder.
I shouldn't have to guess what to call someone, beyond what visual information I have at hand.
When you look more like a woman than a man, I will call you "she".
Simple as that.
 
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