Decriminalize !!!!
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canada-man
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Of course in any election it ultimately comes down to choice. It's not like Andrew Scheer has been lighting the fire under Canadians. That's why there is no sense of urgency for things like prostitution because the Liberals can afford to wait. Also, strategically - the biggest issue facing Canada right now is trade and the Liberals already have the July decriminalization on the table. So if they used legislative time on prostitution, they leave themselves open to attacks about priorities (eg: "Canada is about to lose NAFTA and all they care about is weed and sex!!!")
It would be nice if politicians would simply do the right thing - but hey, if pigs had wings.....
OTTAWA - Liberals are calling on the Trudeau government to decriminalize prostitution and eliminate criminal penalties for simple possession and consumption of all illicit drugs.
Those are among 39 resolutions developed by grassroots Liberals for consideration at the federal party's national policy convention in April in Halifax.
The party is opening up the resolutions for online discussion, starting today and running until Feb. 14.
Through an online vote, the 39 resolutions will then be whittled down to 30 that will be debated at the convention.
From those 30, Liberals at the convention will choose up to 15 priority resolutions that they want included in the party's election platform in 2019.
Other resolutions call on the government to create a guaranteed minimum income and to expand universal health care to include coverage of prescription drugs.
https://infotel.ca/newsitem/grassro...decriminalizing-prostitution-drug-use/it49477
Those are among 39 resolutions developed by grassroots Liberals for consideration at the federal party's national policy convention in April in Halifax.
The party is opening up the resolutions for online discussion, starting today and running until Feb. 14.
Through an online vote, the 39 resolutions will then be whittled down to 30 that will be debated at the convention.
From those 30, Liberals at the convention will choose up to 15 priority resolutions that they want included in the party's election platform in 2019.
Other resolutions call on the government to create a guaranteed minimum income and to expand universal health care to include coverage of prescription drugs.
https://infotel.ca/newsitem/grassro...decriminalizing-prostitution-drug-use/it49477
I will sing their praises if they do, at the same time it has only taken two and quarter years for the idea to even have been brought forward, and it is far from being fait accompli.
There is a opportunity in voting to prioritize the resolutions as not all of them will be debated at the convention though you must sign on as a party supporter:
http://2018.liberal.ca/policy/
http://2018.liberal.ca/policy/
Is the PC's back in power again ???? :frusty:
This is a political powder keg and the closer we get to an election - the less likely any changes come independent of whether it infringes on the rights of others. Sadly if the PC's make it back to power, the more likely they will restrict freedoms more in the interest of church morality.
BTW: A shout out to Phil C. McNasty on his sig pic. She is stunning !
Here is the resolution:
Decriminalization of Consensual Sex Work and Sex Trade
WHEREAS:
The current Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, which prohibits the purchasing of sex, does little to protect sex workers and instead pushes them to work
underground and in dangerous conditions;
The current prohibition of buying consensual sex work does not address the underlying issues that make sex work dangerous, but rather creates a climate that makes sex
workers unlikely to work with the police and be involved with more serious crimes;
BE IT RESOLVED the Liberal Party of Canada repeal the 2014 Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, begin a consultation period with those in the sex work industry
and advocacy groups, and move to decriminalize consensual sex work, and the purchase of said sex work, for those over the age of 18;
BE IT RESOLVED the Liberal Party of Canada consult not just with those involved in the sex work, but with surrounding communities to ensure that these changes ensure the
safety and wellbeing of these surrounding communities and their families;
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that along with decriminalization the Liberal Party of Canada should look to address the true problems facing sex workers by working to increase their
access to sexual health clinics, counseling and improve their relationship with local authorities.
Of course just because the Convention adopts it that doesn't mean the Government will table a bill.
Decriminalization of Consensual Sex Work and Sex Trade
WHEREAS:
The current Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, which prohibits the purchasing of sex, does little to protect sex workers and instead pushes them to work
underground and in dangerous conditions;
The current prohibition of buying consensual sex work does not address the underlying issues that make sex work dangerous, but rather creates a climate that makes sex
workers unlikely to work with the police and be involved with more serious crimes;
BE IT RESOLVED the Liberal Party of Canada repeal the 2014 Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act, begin a consultation period with those in the sex work industry
and advocacy groups, and move to decriminalize consensual sex work, and the purchase of said sex work, for those over the age of 18;
BE IT RESOLVED the Liberal Party of Canada consult not just with those involved in the sex work, but with surrounding communities to ensure that these changes ensure the
safety and wellbeing of these surrounding communities and their families;
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that along with decriminalization the Liberal Party of Canada should look to address the true problems facing sex workers by working to increase their
access to sexual health clinics, counseling and improve their relationship with local authorities.
Of course just because the Convention adopts it that doesn't mean the Government will table a bill.
canada-man
Well-known member
the Conservative Party created a resolution saying they would criminalize the purchase of sex. people said they wouldn't make a law
http://www.conservative.ca/media/documents/Policy Declaration - June 11 2016.pdf page 41
Justin has to tread carefully on this one. There are plenty of women in his cabinet who like prostitution to be illegal, I bet. So if the Liberals are told to re-write the law it could be full blown illegal. The NDP maybe the only party in Canada to legalize prostitution.
Nothing will make me support Juste un Troue d'Eau personally. No matter what he says. He may had us last election with his charm and good promises, and the whole legalizing weed but all the fuck ups he did since he is there... Giving away the Canadian identity and basically publicaly stating Canada has no identity... and letting everybody comes in... no thanks.
I'm in this camp and I fear Doug Ford will win and Ontario will begin to enforce some of Harper's insane C36.
The boy will do nothing with C36,... hasn't got the guts to make hard decisions,... mind you, if some one told him he would look great dressed up as a street walker for some photo ops,... one never knows.
But even if he did move on the bill,... I still wouldn't vote for him,... deciding which party to vote for, based on one single rather insignificant issue for the country,... is really immature.
Just do it, but don't be surprised if you don't have money for the girls anymore in 2020. You will be the poor kid, who stay front of the window of the candy store.
I'll be dirtpoor, but I will also have a huge smile on my faceJust do it, but don't be surprised if you don't have money for the girls anymore in 2020. You will be the poor kid, who stay front of the window of the candy store.
I think you can write off the NDP as far as being a contender. At least, both the NDP and the Liberals are on the way down.
Jagmeet can't make up his mind whether he supports Sikh independence/Khalistan movement. He does not renounce his support for Sikh separatism in India, and is vague on the use of force by those separatists in India for an independent Khalistan. In any case, any person wanting to be Canadian PM can not advocate the breakup of a friendly and democratic country; it's interfering in the internal affairs of a foreign country. It would be like France officially endorsing Quebec separatism, which they never did. The other problem he has is his visible ethnic [and non standard Sikh]headdress, that will turn off a lot of Quebec NDP voters, into the hands of the Liberals in Quebec. I would also think that a lot of the non-Sikh voters of Indian descent who have some attachment to their land of origin, would steer away from Jagmeet and the NDP, with many going Conservative.
At the same time, Trudeau and his government's popularity have taken a dive in the polls lately, as a result of his disastrous India visit. There was plenty of press (and a huge amount in India) about the blatant selfie self-promoting narcisism of Trudeau, dressed in various Indian dress, and mimicking religious rites that he is most certainly not a follower of. He also spent very little time meeting with local government and industry people, looking as though he was thoroughly enjoying his vacation at the expense of the Canadian taxpayer. The Conservatives were recently leading the Liberals by 8 points. Trudeau's Chinese visit was also a disaster, as the anticipated breakthrough in Chinese trade did not materialize, with the Chinese PM Li Ke Qiang looking visibly pissed off after his meeting with Trudeau, in what resulted in him completely wasting his time.
Trudeau's populism has gone too far, with the 'peoplekind' gaffe the most recent public relations fiasco. So looks like the Conservatives are making a comeback despite themselves, and despite the blandness of Scheer. The Liberals, in the meantime, will not move on repealing C-36, as it's a political hot potato.
