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Opinion: Dear Joe, it’s time to go
Former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden debate at CNN's Atlanta studios on June 27, 2024.

Editor’s Note: Jay Parini, a poet and novelist, teaches at Middlebury College. His most recent book is “Borges and Me,” a memoir of his travels in the highlands of Scotland with Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges in 1971. The views expressed here are his own. View more opinion at CNN.

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Dear Joe,

I write to you urgently, as your old neighbor from Scranton. My mother was your babysitter, and you and I sat at my kitchen table many decades ago. I’ve been your admirer for years, sending you checks, knocking on doors and writing pieces supporting you.

Few leaders in American history have had your big heart or sense of moderation. You rescued this country from disaster in 2021, returning us to a sense of normalcy after a brutal insurrection, featuring a crazed mob who smashed the windows of the Capitol and threatened to hang then-Vice President Mike Pence. You assisted an economy in freefall, helping us end a pandemic that killed over 1 million people in the US alone, making it one of the worst-affected wealthy countries globally.

You ushered in crucial support for infrastructure. You, Joe, pushed through the Safer Communities Act, which included the most significant gun control measures in nearly thirty years. Crime has fallen and continues to fall, despite Trump’s rhetoric to the contrary, and you’ve been trying to tame sticky inflation with some success — consumer prices have slowly but steadily dropped under your leadership.

You marshalled support among our allies for Ukraine. And our country is deeply admired around the world for its leadership in technology, its strong military, its enviable research universities and a hugely influential entertainment industry, according to Pew.

This is all good. But you’re an old man now, like me. I know what it’s like to summon the energy to move forcefully through the day. Our bodies don’t cooperate as they once did. Sometimes it hurts even to get up in the morning.

Sadly, that was evident to me from the moment you walked — dazed and confused — onto the debate stage Thursday in Atlanta against former President Donald Trump. You seemed ancient, pale and fragile. You almost groped your way to the podium. Your speech was halting, often incoherent. Your jokes fell flat, badly timed, out of context. You let crazy Donald lie with impunity and snicker at your responses.

I found myself weeping. Weeping for you. Weeping for our nation.

You’re a man of huge integrity, Joe, and you must — you MUST — stand down. Do it for your country and your party. The threat of another four years of Trump, a grifter and con man, is existential.

Democracy really is at stake: Trump tried to subvert the 2020 election and overthrow our government. He did everything in his power to confuse his followers, making them believe he really was elected four years ago.

If Trump returns to the White House, he will give Russian President Vladimir Putin free rein to crush the poor Ukrainians and anyone else who annoys him. He will give Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a blank check. NATO will be imperiled. He will slap massive tariffs on imported goods from China and elsewhere, driving up inflation, as economists suggest. He may put more right-wing judges on the Supreme Court, and women can forget about abortion rights for good. Guns will proliferate, as they did under Trump’s first term in office. He will work to make the public think that global warming is a big hoax, destroying progress in this crucial work of fighting climate change. On and on. Disaster looms.

It’s on you, Joe, to listen to the leaders of your party.

Speaking of which, if Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi are not on their way to the White House today, they should be swiftly removed from office for dereliction of duty. It’s their job to see that the party puts forward the best person who can win in November, and if they don’t, the election of Trump should land squarely in their laps. It’s beyond time for wise heads to surround you with love, Joe. They must tell you that, for the sake of the country (not to say your own legacy, which is on the brink of ruin): It’s the moment to step down.

The lesson of the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s desperate effort to cling to power when her resignation, under President Barack Obama, would have allowed for a good judge to replace her should be echoing in your head. Don’t let yourself be remembered as Joe Bader Biden.

You’ve done your work, and you’ve done it well. The nation is stronger because of you. But we need a brokered, open convention — as in the old days, when this was the norm. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Illinois Gov. J. B. Pritzker and others — just to pluck a few obvious names from the hat — should make a case for themselves. The best available Democrat should stand against Trump in November. Any of them should be able to wipe the floor with him.

I’m sorry it’s come to this. But it has.

We both share what I like to think of as Scranton values. We grew up among hard-working ordinary people who understood that this is a country based on equality. Our neighbors were Irish, Italian, Ukrainian and Lebanese immigrants. We believed in this place called the United States of America, where values and character matter.

Be the great man you are, Joe, the one we’ve seen in action and admired for many decades. We salute you. It’s tough, I’m sure. But your final act of greatness lies right before you now.

Do it. Withdraw.

Respectfully, Jay
 

mandrill

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Opinion: Dear Joe, it’s time to go
Former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden debate at CNN's Atlanta studios on June 27, 2024.'s Atlanta studios on June 27, 2024.

Editor’s Note: Jay Parini, a poet and novelist, teaches at Middlebury College. His most recent book is “Borges and Me,” a memoir of his travels in the highlands of Scotland with Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges in 1971. The views expressed here are his own. View more opinion at CNN.

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Dear Joe,

I write to you urgently, as your old neighbor from Scranton. My mother was your babysitter, and you and I sat at my kitchen table many decades ago. I’ve been your admirer for years, sending you checks, knocking on doors and writing pieces supporting you.

Few leaders in American history have had your big heart or sense of moderation. You rescued this country from disaster in 2021, returning us to a sense of normalcy after a brutal insurrection, featuring a crazed mob who smashed the windows of the Capitol and threatened to hang then-Vice President Mike Pence. You assisted an economy in freefall, helping us end a pandemic that killed over 1 million people in the US alone, making it one of the worst-affected wealthy countries globally.

You ushered in crucial support for infrastructure. You, Joe, pushed through the Safer Communities Act, which included the most significant gun control measures in nearly thirty years. Crime has fallen and continues to fall, despite Trump’s rhetoric to the contrary, and you’ve been trying to tame sticky inflation with some success — consumer prices have slowly but steadily dropped under your leadership.

You marshalled support among our allies for Ukraine. And our country is deeply admired around the world for its leadership in technology, its strong military, its enviable research universities and a hugely influential entertainment industry, according to Pew.

This is all good. But you’re an old man now, like me. I know what it’s like to summon the energy to move forcefully through the day. Our bodies don’t cooperate as they once did. Sometimes it hurts even to get up in the morning.

Sadly, that was evident to me from the moment you walked — dazed and confused — onto the debate stage Thursday in Atlanta against former President Donald Trump. You seemed ancient, pale and fragile. You almost groped your way to the podium. Your speech was halting, often incoherent. Your jokes fell flat, badly timed, out of context. You let crazy Donald lie with impunity and snicker at your responses.

I found myself weeping. Weeping for you. Weeping for our nation.

You’re a man of huge integrity, Joe, and you must — you MUST — stand down. Do it for your country and your party. The threat of another four years of Trump, a grifter and con man, is existential.

Democracy really is at stake: Trump tried to subvert the 2020 election and overthrow our government. He did everything in his power to confuse his followers, making them believe he really was elected four years ago.

If Trump returns to the White House, he will give Russian President Vladimir Putin free rein to crush the poor Ukrainians and anyone else who annoys him. He will give Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a blank check. NATO will be imperiled. He will slap massive tariffs on imported goods from China and elsewhere, driving up inflation, as economists suggest. He may put more right-wing judges on the Supreme Court, and women can forget about abortion rights for good. Guns will proliferate, as they did under Trump’s first term in office. He will work to make the public think that global warming is a big hoax, destroying progress in this crucial work of fighting climate change. On and on. Disaster looms.

It’s on you, Joe, to listen to the leaders of your party.

Speaking of which, if Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi are not on their way to the White House today, they should be swiftly removed from office for dereliction of duty. It’s their job to see that the party puts forward the best person who can win in November, and if they don’t, the election of Trump should land squarely in their laps. It’s beyond time for wise heads to surround you with love, Joe. They must tell you that, for the sake of the country (not to say your own legacy, which is on the brink of ruin): It’s the moment to step down.

The lesson of the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s desperate effort to cling to power when her resignation, under President Barack Obama, would have allowed for a good judge to replace her should be echoing in your head. Don’t let yourself be remembered as Joe Bader Biden.

You’ve done your work, and you’ve done it well. The nation is stronger because of you. But we need a brokered, open convention — as in the old days, when this was the norm. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Illinois Gov. J. B. Pritzker and others — just to pluck a few obvious names from the hat — should make a case for themselves. The best available Democrat should stand against Trump in November. Any of them should be able to wipe the floor with him.

I’m sorry it’s come to this. But it has.

We both share what I like to think of as Scranton values. We grew up among hard-working ordinary people who understood that this is a country based on equality. Our neighbors were Irish, Italian, Ukrainian and Lebanese immigrants. We believed in this place called the United States of America, where values and character matter.

Be the great man you are, Joe, the one we’ve seen in action and admired for many decades. We salute you. It’s tough, I’m sure. But your final act of greatness lies right before you now.

Do it. Withdraw.

Respectfully, Jay
From the entire Mandrill Family, including all the little Baboons: "Please Joe. Just go."
 

NotADcotor

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If they bring in Newsom then the party has no clue beyond their own echo chamber. He might not be old but for the mass in the middle who needs to be moved from meh or Trump to the Dems, Trump would have a field day pointing out the job he has done in California.

I wouldn't mind seeing Buttawhatever, policy wise I don't think he is any worse than Biden [and considering Trump is a literal traitor and a nutbag, that's good enough] and he seems well spoken which sadly counts for a lot. He lacks the "I am a social democrat who ignores the fact that literal social democrates in Sweden and Denmark gave up on my polices ages ago because they were counter productive to a welfare state" retardation of a Sanders or a Warren. He isn't a vile hatchet faced woman like Kamala the Ugandian Giant Harris with her laughing about her own drug use why locking people up for the same and running as a mate to someone who she called a racist.

Maybe the other two governors mentioned might be OK, I don't know shit about them, not being a yank, but that might be an issue.


Newsom, that reminds me when Biden squeeked out a win over a mentally ill manchild and the Dems were treating it as a massive success instead of a huge slap in the face. Like a full grown ass man adult celebrating a boxing win vs a terminally ill 4 year old girl from his hospital bed. Dude, she was 4 and terminally ill, yeah you won, but she landed you in the hospital. This is not a good look.

Of course if the Septics* had any clue they would put Charles in charge.

Septic. Septic Tank for Yank. Cockney rhyming slang.
 

oil&gas

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From the entire Mandrill Family, including all the little Baboons: "Please Joe. Just go."
I understand your rationale. As for me I don't want Biden to quit.

Trump supporters who can't seem to wait to see Biden's demise before
the election will get more than they wish if Biden is replaced.
 
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jalimon

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How in hell could the richest country on earth end up with a candidate who is way to old for such position.

And how on hell the other candidate is a lifetime fraud psychopath. A candidate full of hate because in all his life nobody ever loved him.

We are witnessing the fall of the American empire.

All who vote for Trump are greedy stupid selfish ass holes.

On that note i am currently planning another gangbang ;)
 

mandrill

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If they bring in Newsom then the party has no clue beyond their own echo chamber. He might not be old but for the mass in the middle who needs to be moved from meh or Trump to the Dems, Trump would have a field day pointing out the job he has done in California.

I wouldn't mind seeing Buttawhatever, policy wise I don't think he is any worse than Biden [and considering Trump is a literal traitor and a nutbag, that's good enough] and he seems well spoken which sadly counts for a lot. He lacks the "I am a social democrat who ignores the fact that literal social democrates in Sweden and Denmark gave up on my polices ages ago because they were counter productive to a welfare state" retardation of a Sanders or a Warren. He isn't a vile hatchet faced woman like Kamala the Ugandian Giant Harris with her laughing about her own drug use why locking people up for the same and running as a mate to someone who she called a racist.

Maybe the other two governors mentioned might be OK, I don't know shit about them, not being a yank, but that might be an issue.


Newsom, that reminds me when Biden squeeked out a win over a mentally ill manchild and the Dems were treating it as a massive success instead of a huge slap in the face. Like a full grown ass man adult celebrating a boxing win vs a terminally ill 4 year old girl from his hospital bed. Dude, she was 4 and terminally ill, yeah you won, but she landed you in the hospital. This is not a good look.

Of course if the Septics* had any clue they would put Charles in charge.

Septic. Septic Tank for Yank. Cockney rhyming slang.
Except people who don't like California are going to vote GOP anyway.
 

K Douglas

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There is no doubt Biden will need to step down. But the Un Democrats have no viable alternative. Gavin Newsom? Kamala Harris? Gretchen Witmer? Pete Buttigieg? Its a disaster.
 

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There is no doubt Biden will need to step down. But the Un Democrats have no viable alternative. Gavin Newsom? Kamala Harris? Gretchen Witmer? Pete Buttigieg? Its a disaster.
Any of those will be the rapist felon who brags about identifying a rhino on a cognitive test.
 
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Jon Stewart on describing how Biden looked at the Debate.

He has resting 25th Amendment Face ........
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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What are the odds of sleepy Joe meeting an unfortunate "accident"??
The CIA allegedly has done it before, so there is precedent

 
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What are the odds of sleepy Joe meeting an unfortunate "accident"??
The CIA allegedly has done it before, so there is precedent
I doubt CIA is among those who believe Trump's return to the
WH would doom the nation. If Trump is a threat to national security
taking him out instead of Biden is the easier thing to do.
 

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What are the odds of sleepy Joe meeting an unfortunate "accident"??
The CIA allegedly has done it before, so there is precedent

It’s sad that conspiracy theories and and political assassination are what characterize what passes for political discourse today.
 
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There is no doubt Biden will need to step down. But the Un Democrats have no viable alternative. Gavin Newsom? Kamala Harris? Gretchen Witmer? Pete Buttigieg? Its a disaster.
I want Biden to stay. It will guarantee a Trump landslide 😂
Question to both you felon-loving, cultist party supporting Maga gentlemen: Will you dump the Orange Stain if feeble Joe kicks his ass in November?
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Question to both your felon-loving, cultist party supporting Maga gentlemen: Will you dump the Orange Stain if feeble Joe kicks his ass in November?
Thats a dumb question because its highly unlikely Trump will be the Republican nominee again in 2028 if he loses against Biden
 
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