Damn PoPo Peel is a little aggressive

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True

For years and years Peel Police in Brampton have been hanging out, outside strip joints, in their cruisers and when customer leaves in their car the police follow them around for 1 KM or so to see if they can nail them for some illegal driving infraction.

It's a fishing expedition and it's been going on for 20 years. They like to nail people who go to strip joints for anything because cops consider strip joint patrons to be erratic/crazy people and the scum of the earth or something. That's my guess.

I keep hearing this stories from people /guys who live in Brampton. It happen to several guys at my work place. One story goes back as 20 years and it is still happening. Actually one story happen in the parking lot of the SC.

Funny side to this story is that cops also go to SC but in a different town, they go see MP and SP if not, some other cops then have GF's while the wife is taking care fo the kids.

If you deny this, you haven't met enough people in your life.

 

[xix]

What to do when approac by cops

It seems no one know what to do when approached by a cop when puller over or not. Even after watching so much COPS people have not learned anything. So here is the basic run down.

This is while you are stopped or parked.

1. IF you are in your car parked, for what ever reason, and see the flashing lights of a cop, - Turn engine OFF, DO NOT GET OUT OF CAR. NEVER REmove your seat belt.

2. if you are on the phone, or looking at the map or GPS , try to have both hands on the wheel by the time he approaches. IT IS a sign of Peace, unless his GF dumped him.

3. once he taps the window then stop what you are doing, put the person on the cell on hold for a moment. Lower your window and smile.
Say- "Hi, can I help you?"

4. OF course he will ask you what are you doing? be up front
- if you are on the cell, "taking a call"
- "lost" looking at the map or GPS even if your buddy is there
- waiting for someone, car pool lot,
- travelling all day and need to take some rest, you better be out of town like 2 hours, not around the corner to your house,
Or you are tired so are your eyes and need some rest.

5. Giving your buddy rules and lesson about what the night will be like before heading to the bar. - it happen to me-

Now the cop no matter what reason you give him, WILL ask for ID/Registration. Just be kind and hand it in, but only those documents not your whole wallet. This is why I have my Drivers and License readly available.

Also have the back window closed. There is a video on the net which a cops threw some drugs in the back seat of pulled over car.
If he request for the window down keep and eye on his hands and arms.


IF YOU ARE DRIVING.
Pull over where there is a parking lot, but make sure people can see you, if in the city if you are on a major road then take a side street, you can do a U turn later. If on major road and there is parking pull there on the side road.
NEver in front of fire hydrant, or handicap spot or to close to the curve, he may be an ass and charge you for it.


Feel free to add more

 

[tboy]

Not so much in Toronto because there are alternatives such as TTC, cabs and walking. Brampton and Sauga are pretty much car country.

Guess they don't have this modern invention called TAXIS either?

Sure, cops sit outside strip joints waiting to pull people over who have been drinking.....just like they sit outside or patrol the jane finch corrider more than the bridal path. They go where the crime is. What's so hard to undestand about that?

If (like some places in the US) strip joints didn't serve booze, they wouldn't sit outside them. PERIOD.

Good points all around about what to do when stopped by a cop. If you want to be featured on another youtube video getting tazed then get out of your car, act a fool, and resist the cop at every turn. Meanwhile the rest of us who act respectful, provide the cop with the info he requires in the execution of his JOB, be polite, clear and concise, we'll be on our way in a couple of minutes and escape unscathed.

 

[Keebler Elf]

I get off the phone, out of the car and walk back to the cruiser to see what the issue is.

Say no more. You broke one of the cardinal rules, which is to remain in your vehicle both for your own safety and the safety of the officer. I'd have my hand on my gun too and if you were in the States they probably would have drawn their weapon on you.

How does the cop know you're not coming to shoot him? He reacted the way he was trained to react.

Why in the world would you jump out of your car and approach the cop? I'd never dream of doing that. It looks like you've got something to hide in the car that you don't want the cop to see. As someone else pointed out, it's also very aggressive behaviour.

So before this becomes a big anti-police/racism rant, let's all take a big breath and remember that the OP brought this on himself.

I think the cop did his job and protected himself wisely.

 

[Keebler Elf]

Maybe cops sitting outside strip clubs is a fishing expedition, or maybe they're sitting in a spot that has a heck of a lot more fish than other spots. It's no more a fishing expedition that a cop sitting in a secluded spot watching a STOP sign that everyone blows through all the time.

I think the cops run the plates in the parking lot of strip clubs because strip clubs tend to have more than the usual number of shady characters in them. If you don't think that's true of oh, I dunno, Cannonball, then you've got your blinders on to the gangbangers and pimps that hang out there.

I've been pulled over outside CB late at night. Officer asked me some questions, I answered politely, and I was on my way. I didn't give them attitude, demand to know why I was being pulled over, jump out of my car and come at them, or any of that antagonistic bullshit. Be polite and if you haven't done anything wrong they'll send you on your way.

I'm glad to see a police presence at strip clubs because some of the characters there deserve to be monitored by the police.

p.s., I also think it's a reflection on your attitude and behaviour towards the police when you refer to them as popo, pigs, 5-O, etc. You give disrespect and it's no wonder you get hassled.

 

[spraggamuffin]

Cellphone law in Ontario comes into effect in October 2009.

http://fightyourtickets.ca/cell-pho...ober-2009-on-ontarios-highways-streets-roads/

 

[a 1 player]

Sorry, but in my opinion that is not aggressive. If you had approached his car and he had beaten you with his club, that would have been aggressive. He was authoritative.

 

[Serpent]

I'm glad to see a police presence at strip clubs because some of the characters there deserve to be monitored by the police.

Absolutely.

Down in the States, they'd have drawn and have him sprawled on the ground for coming out.

 

[thompo69]

Yes it is illegal. The only thing the Minister said is that Police should give citizens a grace period, before charges are laid, in order to get used to the new law.

Handsfree is still legal.

No, it is not illegal. The law was passed and received Royal Assent, but has not yet come into force. It comes into force on October 1. Until then it is perfectly legal (even if stupid) to yak away on a handheld cell phone while driving.

 

[tboy]

No, it is not illegal. The law was passed and received Royal Assent, but has not yet come into force. It comes into force on October 1. Until then it is perfectly legal (even if stupid) to yak away on a handheld cell phone while driving.

but I would have to think that the cops have been instructed to stop motorists they see yakking away and warn them of the upcoming law.

But either way, a cop really doesn't need any reason to stop you, on a very basic level one of their duties is to insure that all drivers have a valid licence, valid insurance, and is unimpaired (hence why ride programs can operate).

 

[fmahovalich]

Nothing wrong with this scenario

If my son, daughter or nephew had been killed by a drunk driver, and my taxes support law enforcement, I want them in front of late night drinking establishments, at the very least as a deterrant to drinking and driving.

And if my son or daughter were a Police Officer on a dark street in the middle of the city in the wee hours of the morning when they pull up to a car load of people, and the driver gets out to approach, I HOPE my son or daughter DRAWS their gun and orders the driver back.

And if I own a commercial business, and I pay taxes, and those taxes pay for Police, I want that Police Officer to investigate a car load of people in a car in my parking lot in the middle of the night - phone or no phone.

All the other rants about Police,racism and cell phone laws, is truly rather narrow minded and missing the point.

Frank

 

[Aardvark154]

Guys, he was stopped at the side of the road at night. Cops always stop. When he got out of the car, the cop got nervous. They always do when you jump out of the car. They don't want to get shot.

So he gave you the third degree because you had him worried. He let you go. Next time pull off the road into a parking lot. Better yet, get a bluetooth headset and you are free and clear!

Yes it is a pain in the neck. Yes some Constables behave like jerks. But Moresex4me is on the money, Constables have been assaulted and shot and when they are in the patrol car and you are standing and they don't know whether you have a firearm. . . .

 

[tboy]

If my son, daughter or nephew had been killed by a drunk driver, and my taxes support law enforcement, I want them in front of late night drinking establishments, at the very least as a deterrant to drinking and driving.

And if my son or daughter were a Police Officer on a dark street in the middle of the city in the wee hours of the morning when they pull up to a car load of people, and the driver gets out to approach, I HOPE my son or daughter DRAWS their gun and orders the driver back.

And if I own a commercial business, and I pay taxes, and those taxes pay for Police, I want that Police Officer to investigate a car load of people in a car in my parking lot in the middle of the night - phone or no phone.

All the other rants about Police,racism and cell phone laws, is truly rather narrow minded and missing the point.

Frank

Frank: welcome to the board but I warn you: this place is rife with police haters. The second a cop does anything out of the ordinary (whether or not caused by a crime committed by someone else or not) people here immediately condemn the officer or group of in question with zero consideration for the whole picture.

The theme of this board is: F the police F the police.

(I'm actually surprised this thread hasn't pulled them out of the woodwork)

 

[Rockslinger]

Guess they don't have this modern invention called TAXIS either?

Good luck trying to get a cab outside CB after midnight.

 

[Rockslinger]

Maybe cops sitting outside strip clubs is a fishing expedition, or maybe they're sitting in a spot that has a heck of a lot more fish than other spots.

A TERBIE recently mentioned that he left CB and decided to pee up a tree and was caught by an undercover. The TERBIE was polite to the officer and showed remorse and he got a warning instead of a ticket. In life, there is no downside to being polite when speaking to LE even if you disagree with them.

 

[tboy]

Good luck trying to get a cab outside CB after midnight.

well, then, you know the answer don't you?

leave at 11:59 pm.......

 

[Never Compromised]

I had not been drinking and had not picked the young lady up from a bar, but from her place.

 

[Questor]

Frank: welcome to the board but I warn you: this place is rife with police haters. The second a cop does anything out of the ordinary (whether or not caused by a crime committed by someone else or not) people here immediately condemn the officer or group of in question with zero consideration for the whole picture.

The theme of this board is: F the police F the police.

(I'm actually surprised this thread hasn't pulled them out of the woodwork)

LOL I'm not a big fan of the police. You could even call me a frequent basher. I've kept quiet on this one up til now because I think the majority of posters have it right so far. The police should monitor bars around closing time and watch for erratic/dangerous driving. Being pulled over like that in the middle of the night, the cop was right to pull up with his lights flashing. The OP was misguided to get out of the car. Once he did that, the cop became suspicious, and he was detained longer and questioned more aggressively than he would have been otherwise. And quite likely if he was in the US, the cop would have drawn his weapon, and he would have been on the ground getting frisked.

Hey, good for you pulling over to take that call. Next time I am sure you will get it right and stay in the car.

 

[descartes]

IMHO I think you were lucky. As I was reading the part where you got out of your car... in the dark of night... to approach a cop... I was surprised you weren't taken down by force. Stay in the car!

 

[Never Compromised]

Ok, so why is it that I am treated like a criminal and I have to act a certain way?

The Canadian constitution clearly spells out the rights and responsibilities, including my right of not being randomly detained, which is really why I was pissed.

I have the right to ask why I am being detained, the cop has the duty/obligation to both identify himself and explain why I was being detained. Since I was not under arrest, I was not at all impressed that the cop was ordering me to my car, which IMHO was not a lawful command.

I was not stopped by the police for an infraction. The officer had no right to ask me who my companions were, where I was coming from or where I was going. Further, he did not live up to his obligation by informing me who he was, under that authority he was detaining me, and why he was interrogating me.