According to CBC Newsworld, the snow pack between Jasper and Canmore Alberta is deeper than it was last year.
Coincidence ya think?
Coincidence ya think?
Damn climate change!
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/s...ctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html
Let's just say that I wouldn't buy real estate in NYC, Boston, Vancouver or Miami. Especially Miami.
Let's just say that I wouldn't buy real estate in NYC, Boston, Vancouver or Miami. Especially Miami.
No, a new study is linking the polar vortex and California's drought to climate change.
http://www.usnews.com/news/science/news/articles/2014/04/24/study-links-california-drought-to-global-warming
That wasn't the answer you wanted to your rhetorical question, was it?
Sorry for the riddle, I'll complete it.
Last year the Alberta Foothills were covered in deep snow till May, a series of heavy rainstorms hit the area accelerating the meltdown. Calgary got flooded.
And Calgary is situated on a water basin that feeds into the Saskatchewan Rivers.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/calgary-floods-it-could-happen-again/8295/
That's a big one, bad for hydro stations, farming, etc but the big one is this one.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/17/climate-change-antarctica-glaciers-melting-global-warming-nasa
That's the eventual 10 foot rise in oceans, as opposed to the quicker but smaller 40cm from glaciers.
Cue moviefan2 to say he has a report that says its cold out today and therefore we don't have to worry....
Depends where you get your news.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...xtent-debunks-antarctic-global-warming-scare/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...xtent-debunks-antarctic-global-warming-scare/
I've come around to The Fonz's way of thinking.
We should increase bitumen production 10 fold in Northern Alberta. Who gives a crap about the consequences as long as we have cheap gas.
http://www.rte.ie/blogs/news-blog/2014/05/19/visualising-the-amount-of-ice-melting-in-antarctica/
We should increase bitumen production 10 fold in Northern Alberta. Who gives a crap about the consequences as long as we have cheap gas.
http://www.rte.ie/blogs/news-blog/2014/05/19/visualising-the-amount-of-ice-melting-in-antarctica/
If your live in more than 2,500 sq ft or your car has more than 4 cylinders you don't really believe in climate change….
That's just rich people giving themselves a pass - like that Gore guy who flew around the world in a private jet doing a ppt presentation....
Funny qutoe in this about fat people paying skinny people to diet...
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/lorrie_goldstein/2008/09/14/6761101-sun.html
It`s funny how you keep wanting to have the same debate over and over again.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?471227-Global-Warming-Fact-or-grossly-exaggerated
Actually, the report I cited that showed there are enormous flaws with the computer-model predictions came from the United Nations` International Panel on Climate Change. I`m sure you`ve heard of it.
Excellent point.
f you get your 'news' from those who want to maximize their profit potential via oil and gas, you will read propaganda denying climate change.
If you get your facts from scientists who research the evidence, they say it is happening.
Thanks for confirming you don`t know what you`re talking about.
You confuse `projections` with `predictions`, then use stale old lobbyist cherry picking, copy and pasting their arguments as if you understood them.
Mattroxx`s post above has a very good list of who is funding your talking points.
I`ll stick with the 97% of the people who know what they are talking about and aren`t paid dissenters.
Anyone still trying to make those arguments in the face of the latest news should be ashamed.
I think the more interesting dialog is not about admiring a problem (the planet is warming), but what can be done about it (really nothing).
Germany has demonstrated that a move away from nuclear to solar, wind and coal is not working: http://theenergycollective.com/robe...ble-energy-has-failed-and-other-strange-ideas
With literally hundreds of millions of people moving to the middle class the demand for energy will be enormous, for example in China: http://www.eia.gov/countries/cab.cfm?fips=ch
China has quickly risen to the top ranks in global energy demand over the past few years. China is the world's second-largest oil consumer behind the United States and became the largest global energy consumer in 2010. The country was a net oil exporter until the early 1990s and became the world's second-largest net importer of crude oil and petroleum products in 2009. The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) projects that China will surpass the United States as the largest net oil importer by 2014, in part due to China's rising oil consumption. China's oil consumption growth accounted for one-third of the world's oil consumption growth in 2013, and EIA projects the same share in 2014.
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China is the world's top coal producer, consumer, and importer and accounted for about half of global coal consumption, an important factor in world energy-related carbon dioxide emissions. China's rising coal production is the key driver behind the country becoming the world's largest energy producer in 2007. In line with its sizeable industrialization and swiftly modernizing economy, China also became the world's largest power generator in 2011.
The mix of Chinese energy doesn't look good for global warming:
It's unrealistic to ask the Chinese to stay poor (or go back to being poor), no amount of wind farms in Indiana or "offsets" will reverse this trend.
OTB
Germany has demonstrated that a move away from nuclear to solar, wind and coal is not working: http://theenergycollective.com/robe...ble-energy-has-failed-and-other-strange-ideas
With literally hundreds of millions of people moving to the middle class the demand for energy will be enormous, for example in China: http://www.eia.gov/countries/cab.cfm?fips=ch
China has quickly risen to the top ranks in global energy demand over the past few years. China is the world's second-largest oil consumer behind the United States and became the largest global energy consumer in 2010. The country was a net oil exporter until the early 1990s and became the world's second-largest net importer of crude oil and petroleum products in 2009. The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) projects that China will surpass the United States as the largest net oil importer by 2014, in part due to China's rising oil consumption. China's oil consumption growth accounted for one-third of the world's oil consumption growth in 2013, and EIA projects the same share in 2014.
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China is the world's top coal producer, consumer, and importer and accounted for about half of global coal consumption, an important factor in world energy-related carbon dioxide emissions. China's rising coal production is the key driver behind the country becoming the world's largest energy producer in 2007. In line with its sizeable industrialization and swiftly modernizing economy, China also became the world's largest power generator in 2011.
The mix of Chinese energy doesn't look good for global warming:
It's unrealistic to ask the Chinese to stay poor (or go back to being poor), no amount of wind farms in Indiana or "offsets" will reverse this trend.
OTB
The reason Co2 levels are falling to Clinton era levels is our move to Natural Gas (thank you tracking)
As you can see, renewables are a rounding error and completely irrelevant.
As you can see, renewables are a rounding error and completely irrelevant.
Excellent OTB, as Oliver Twist would say, "can I have some more".
Australia's economy is booming by selling it's coal to the PRC and India.
"The less people know about how laws and sausages are made, the better they sleep at night". - Otto Von Bismarck.
One of the problems with containing global warming is that collectively scientists and politicians cannot agree on a strategy.
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21601813-scientists-versus-diplomats-intergovernmental-panel-climate
Australia's economy is booming by selling it's coal to the PRC and India.
"The less people know about how laws and sausages are made, the better they sleep at night". - Otto Von Bismarck.
One of the problems with containing global warming is that collectively scientists and politicians cannot agree on a strategy.
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21601813-scientists-versus-diplomats-intergovernmental-panel-climate
Most of the Co2 that we produce gets absorbed by oceans and rainforest (like those around Kitimat). However it's more destructive partner in crime methane gets into the protosphere allowing more of the sun's rays to reach ground level. Fortunately for us Gary Busey has a solution!
