Crown Appeals Penalties In Death Of Cab Driver

[Thousand]

Crown Appeals Penalties In Death Of Cab Driver
Friday July 11, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff

Tahir Khan, a 46-year-old cab driver, was killed on Mount Pleasant Blvd in January of 2006.

More than two years later, the two men convicted in his death are once again back in court.

Wang-Piao Dumani Ross and Alexander Ryazanov pled guilty to dangerous driving causing death, and were sentenced to house arrest.

"You killed a guy...what is that, nothing, you know," wondered Mohammad Alam, a friend of Khan's.

On Friday, they were back at Osgoode Hall as the Crown appealed their conditional sentence.

The Crown wants them to serve three years in prison, with no chance of getting behind the wheel for eight years.

The 20-year-olds were driving their families' Mercedes Benz sports cars at a high rate of speed just as Tahir Khan was attempting to make a left turn. One of the vehicles T-boned the Khan's cab, leaving him dead at the scene.

However, the word "streetracing" was not included in the agreed statement of facts at the original trial. If it had been, the two would automatically have a harsher sentence.

In the end, the judge reserved his decision.

Khan's family is launching its own civil suit.

"First of all, we have to see if the appeal will be accepted or ejected," Alam explained.


http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_24687.aspx


They live among us! (refer to the judge and jury who don't see the seriousness of the crime)

 

[toughb]

Crown Appeals Penalties In Death Of Cab Driver
Friday July 11, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff

Tahir Khan, a 46-year-old cab driver, was killed on Mount Pleasant Blvd in January of 2006.

More than two years later, the two men convicted in his death are once again back in court.

Wang-Piao Dumani Ross and Alexander Ryazanov pled guilty to dangerous driving causing death, and were sentenced to house arrest.

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What! Maybe you were looking for justice?

 

[Thousand]

Death and House Arrest. These two words just don't go together.

 

[tboy]

Death and House Arrest. These two words just don't go together.

They do if you have the money for a really good lawyer......

I remember when this story broke there were those on Facebook that felt they shouldn't even have been charged (if you can believe that).

I am kind of interested in how the crown feels it has justification in pursuing a stiffer sentence 2 yrs after the fact. I think they are right, those two rich brats should have done jail time but it's kind of late now........

 

[Thousand]

I would be more incline toward the judge's decision if they are claiming that there are not enough evidence. I surely do not want any innocent people doing jail time. But in this case, evident was there and they ARE proven guilty.

Now, what kind of message is our justice system sending to the country? Is our justice system doing what it is suppose to do?

 

[tboy]

.......

Now, what kind of message is our justice system sending to the country? Is our justice system doing what it is suppose to do?

In a word? NO it isn't...but then again, we don't have a justice system, we have a legal system.......if it was a justice system people who commit and are found guilty of 52 crimes before they are 21 wouldn't ever be on our streets and people who get caught driving under the influence 78 times wouldn't ever be on the streets and people who admittedly take part in the killing of their own sister would be dead and buried a long long time ago.....

 

[Tarkus]

They do if you have the money for a really good lawyer......

I remember when this story broke there were those on Facebook that felt they shouldn't even have been charged (if you can believe that).

I am kind of interested in how the crown feels it has justification in pursuing a stiffer sentence 2 yrs after the fact. I think they are right, those two rich brats should have done jail time but it's kind of late now........

It just took this long for their appeal to to heard. Right after the judge's ruling the Prosecution said that would appeal the sentence.

If I recall the judge said something akin to, "these two men will turn out to be fine citizens who will contribute to society so he did not want to ruin their lives."

I guess getting a job starting as VP at daddy's company is more of a contribution than cab driver?

 

[tboy]

No shit tarkus, I just wish we had to elect our judges like the US does.....and as for ruining their lives? Maybe putting them in jail would MAKE them better, more responsible people....only thing this case taught them is that money buys freedom and the more you have, the more you can get away with.....

IMO letting them off RUINED them.......

 

[Tarkus]

Slap on a wrist.

..and people who commit identity theft and debit/credit card fraud and steal people's houses from under their noses wouldn't
get a slap on the wrist......

The whole notion of crimes of finance fraud are NOT crimes against the person is utter nonsense. People suffer emotional breakdowns, depression and in some cases commit suicide as a result of these actions and they are treated by the law as if they shoplifted a bagel from Sobeys.

It is interesting that in the US they have taken the view that it is grave to steal money from corporations and share holders but if you steal someone's pension fund... well that still isn't quite so bad. I expect it is the same here.

 

[syn]

It just took this long for their appeal to to heard. Right after the judge's ruling the Prosecution said that would appeal the sentence.

Though through the plea bargaining process (with the judge present), the Crown promised the defence lawyer that they would not appeal the conditional sentence if granted. And then the public fallout was so great they chose to renege on deal.

Syn

 

[Esco!]

If they killed some cute white girl form Oakville, you wanna see how fast they'd be going to jail

 

[pusher69]

If instead of a cab driver who wasn't of a minority race and it was an actual resident who live in the area and was WHITE... what do you think the charges would have been now?

Racism still exists in the law/courts.

If its that easily...heck why kill with a gun when you can use a car and basically get off with a slap on the wrist.

 

[Esco!]

Racism still exists in the law/courts.

Actually its got nothing to do with race, but everything to do with the 'pecking order'.
If that was some white trash bum that got run over, the same penalties prolly would apply.

 

[healer677]

Some poor immigrant guy just trying to make a new life for his family and making ends meet, gets killed by two assholes racing their family Mercedes?

Fuck them -if they get two years, they get two years. I say sue them and get them where it hurts -in the pocketbook. Hopefully a civil suit will grant the poor guys' family a settlement so these two little pricks' grandkids will still be paying them until hell freezes over.

 

[LancsLad]

If they killed some cute white girl form Oakville, you wanna see how fast they'd be going to jail

Thats not a guarantee.


Those scum that killed Jane Kreba had an ultra light time of it.

Fry those bastards.


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[jwmorrice]

Thats not a guarantee.


Those scum that killed Jane Kreba had an ultra light time of it.

Fry those bastards.


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Uh, there hasn't been a trial yet. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...se-youth-now-faces-2nd-degree-murder-rap.aspx

jwm

 

[LancsLad]

Uh, there hasn't been a trial yet. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...se-youth-now-faces-2nd-degree-murder-rap.aspx

jwm

Thats not an issue for me, I'll off the farkers now and we file the paperwork later.





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[KWI]

In a word? NO it isn't...but then again, we don't have a justice system, we have a legal system.......

That is the bottom line and one of the truest statements I have read from you in a long time, lol.

I fully agree, so at least I am not an idiot in your mind today.....

If I recall the judge said something akin to, "these two men will turn out to be fine citizens who will contribute to society so he did not want to ruin their lives."

So it is okay because the cab drive has no life left to ruined. Fucking judges......

Did he even think about the family of cab drivers lives that have been ruined.

I am floored by that statement.

 

[youngent]

So it is okay because the cab drive has no life left to ruined. Fucking judges......

Did he even think about the family of cab drivers lives that have been ruined.

I am floored by that statement.

I think what the judge meant here is that these two made a very serious error in judgement with what they did while behind the wheel, -- compared to a drug dealer or a gangbanger that shoots up people randomly, etc.

So they killed someone when they 'raced' or drove fast competing with one another. Well, people also get killed in car accidents because someone else wasn't paying attention to driving, but instead doing their make-up, reading a book, having a full course meal and steering with their knees ..etc. But that rarely ever makes the news.

So maybe thats what was meant by the judge, and no disrespect was meant to the cab driver or his family.

Good productive people can sometimes make bad decisions that sometimes have very bad results. That doesn't mean they should be included with the those that constantly, willingly, and intentionally want to cause harm and grief to others.

I bet many here haven't been angels on the road either. And given circumstances, very tragic things could have taken place at one time or another as a result.


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On another note .... I have noticed that some cabbies also drive quite aggressively and almost seemingly get in your path to the point that you almost have to mash on your brakes. So I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here, and say that yes, 'legally', those two should not have done what they did, but I suspect that the cab driver may, as usual have darted infront of their path, as usual, withought taking full stock of the situation, probably thinking that these two were not going much faster than people usually do on this street and he would pull out aggressively as he usually did, and make it out just in time. But didn't.
I suspect that, taking legalities aside, both parties are to blame for not using common sense on the road.
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[blackmoon69]

money is power when you have it. i think they should be banned from driving for life. taking away somebodys life doesnt mean that you could get away with it because you have the money. how about the family that was left behind by the cab driver they too suffer you know.