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I would much prefer to continue the Charter School discussion and am in favour of them having a strict uniform dress code.
I would much prefer to continue the Charter School discussion and am in favour of them having a strict uniform dress code.
In a private school it would be allowed
There would be schools in nudist camps, schools where classes on tantric massage would raise no eyebrows ( although age requirements would be an issue of concern), if you disagreed you would STFU or go elsewhere
Consider the plight of those who have a very high libido, how can you learn when you are horny all the time FFS!
Everyone is oppressed in public schools as everyone is forced to conform to a norm. It is only a matter of degree of oppression.
I realize the majority of students think public schools are fine (although they only know about one school system, so their opinion is uneducated) so they can give their vouchers right back to the government and keep attending the same school then stop complaining
What kind or persona freedom do you have when you are afraid of going into certain neighborhoods like they are in the UK, France and the US ...as well as possibly Canada. All people have prejudices, and if you allow for complete freedom, you allow people the freedom to act with prejudice and hatred. It is amazing how many people still insist their kids marry into the same race... RETARDED.
IMHO, your concern, while assumed, has validity but does not trump ones right to an educational environment of ones own choosing. You might as well pass a law stating only the rich do not have to go to public school as it would make no difference. This creates a two tiered school system which is unfair, amongst other concerns.
Find a way to defeat racism without taking away freedom.
I have had a thread on this topic, and the only reasonable argument against vouchers in that thread is yours
If anyone has another argument against vouchers, other than the above, I would like to hear it because I cannot think of one
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You do have a choice, pay for it or move to a neighbourhood that has the type of school that meets your needs. If people are willing to pay huge costs for something, then you really cannot stop it. In case you did not realize it, the reason private schools are so expensive is simple,: TO KEEP POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS STUDENTS OUT! Personally I think the govt should put a 100% tax on private school fees to subsidize public schools.
Yeah! Amen brother! Thanks for exposing the conspiracy. And then the private school go out back and burn all the surplus cash so their true motives are not exposed! :crazy::crazy:
You think that the residents who already pay public school taxes, yet do not send their kids to public school should pay again for the privilege? :crazy:
Move! Are you serious! I aint fucking moving!
Look, the middle and lower class cannot afford to pay for education twice! Nor should they have too. They already paid for it once in taxes. All I am saying is give people their money back if they choose to opt out (unless they are rich, IMHO)
Besides, all public schools allow anyone in, regardless of that students abilities and, more importantly, character and into the same melting pot everyone goes
Interesting.
So you're both saying (or at least implying) that all Muslim women are a monolithic block and that all of them believe the same thing?
Because I don't see where anyone has said that all Muslim women dislike the burka. I'm sure that some, even many, even a majority, prefer to wear a burka. And good for them. But some do not. Because otherwise there wouldn't be any point in having mutaween check on girls schools, would there? Are you saying the majority's preference should be imposed on the minority of those who do not share that preference?
You gentlemen make some very interesting specious arguments. And by that I mean ridiculously specious and silly.
Only slightly on target.
From the House television drama series with Hugh Laurie and Lisa Edelstein.
You really believe that not for profit crap? The board and execs all take home the money. Take a look at any not-for profit and look at their annual report. You can easily drive a truck right though the gaps in information. for example The York School - Teaching expenses 10M ..NO DETAIL.. lol. The head of the board could be making 500K for all you know. Or they can be taking it out in all kinds of expenses. Someone is getting rich. Why does it cost 5K per elementary student in the public system vs 17K in the private system with lower teachers salaries and benefits then the public system?
Look at what the TDSB gives each school vs annual fees at York school, which is not for profit.
depending on who you believe the all in cost is about 11K per student. So York School charges 17K for elementary and 20K for HS so where does it go? Also included in the public costs are school boards which we know are basically money flushed down the toilet to the tune of 650M/year.
Peter Mackay's wife doesn't wear a burka. Malala wears a head scarf but it only covers the back 1/3 of her head.
So, you are saying it costs 11K per student in the public system? Does that cost include the costs of building the schools? loss of tax revenue as these schools are on prime real estate? costs of the schools board? etc
such costs have to be included in private schools tuition or they would go bankrupt, public schools can pretend they do not exist
Even if the private schools are more expensive this does not mean school vouchers should not be given to those who request them, parents can then throw in a couple of grand to go private
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I'm divided on the issue.. I think dress codes are accepted in many work places, and should be equally accepted in schools.. However, I think it's beyond insane that some people think that girls should have to dress "conservatively" (or even refrain from wearing "revealing" clothing) so that "boys can concentrate"... It DOES perpetuate the myth that men "can't help themselves" which further encourages the belief that many women bring rape upon themselves..
Dress codes in the office has evolved from suit and tie to "Jean Friday" to business casuals. I think this relaxation of the dress code is a good thing.
I think it's a great thing.. But does anybody hold "protests" in the work place when they don't get "casual Jean Friday"?
We accept all sorts of other people wanting us to wear certain clothes or dress in a certain way.. Why should school be any different?
Wow. That was quite the jump to promoting one of your pet topics. Next Canada-man will be posting how this is all because of circumcision.
As for the actual topic, your boss can expect to to wear a uniform or follow a reasonable dress code. Result of refusing to do so is usually being fired. Unfortunately in the helicopter parent world we live in, the result of refusing to follow the same conditions at a school results in the school losing a lawsuit.
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