Criss Angel Coffee Trick
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Boy you really missed the point. I've been to magic shows and my father was an serious amateur magician. Of course they have assistants but they have an audience who do not know the trick and the puzzle is 'how did he do that right in front of my eyes ?'
The Criss Angel version is that instead of props and clever slight of hand - you switch everything using video editing then pay the audience to lie about what they saw. What he does is an affront to real magicians in that a trained chimp could perform same tricks.
I can fault anyone in exposing Criss Angel for the fraud that he is. As you can tell from the above video - every person on the ground saw that Angel was a fraud but took the efforts in selling Criss as a real magician. That is the part I find the most disturbing.
As for showing how magic tricks are done - have you not heard of Penn & Teller ? They don't wear masks and they have been a hit in Vegas for sometime. There are always fresh magicians coming up with new tricks.
IM, I think they're allowed a few more ringers when it's a televised trick as opposed to a stage show (I saw David Copperfield a few years ago at the Sony Centre - he was terrific).
If all Criss Angel is doing is editing TV to make his tricks, then perhaps he's a fraud, but hey, I'm not paying for that entertainment. TV editing is laziness and not magic. So I suppose fraud. But if it's strictly a televised magic show with a fake audience, then it's a different form of illusion, one in which the audience is part of the illusion.
(Incidentally, they've been using clapping teleprompters and even fake laughing for sitcoms for decades. Does that mean the actors are fraudsters?).
Of course I know Penn and Teller but as far as they are funny and entertaining, they're idiots for saying that Oswald shot JFK just because one of those guys dry fires a Mannlicher Carcano without a real moving target in the same conditions!
I'll agree with that. However, is this the new form of TV magic shows (as opposed to stage shows) --- i.e., with editing & audiences that are in on it?
Can someone show me the proof that he edited the video or filming to make that coffee trick?
Lol. It's a frickin' trick. You're not supposed to see what this programme is showing you here. It's not fraud.
then help me solve the Origami trick in post 18
have I found the solution?
1 Henning uses his body to hide her escape
2 the table has a false bottom
3 Her head remains in the box but her body is upside down under the table with her feet at the mirror end
inside a hidden compartment. She goes into the origami box with her head and feet in proper orientation for this. She spins around to the upside down position once inside. You can see the box move as she spins
4 the clever part is making the hidden compartment appear invisible
5 the mirror is used for misdirection
6 the mask was always in the box and the first thing she does is put it on
7 The swords are placed through the box so they miss her head. She moves her head after each sword to allow the next one to go through the box
By this definition Star Trek, the Avengers, Superman, Iron Man will all be real magic as long as an actor looks at you in the camera and says that it all really happened.
So every famous trick that Criss Angel has done involved blatant video work and phony participants pretending that the trick was real. A new trick comes out and you think it doesn't involve the same formula ? I'd rather look at a real magician instead of figuring out video splices. If you wait, there are people who seem to enjoy exposing him so I doubt that you will wait long.
I don't know - my dad never had apparatus that big or for a single trick. Most of the equipment had black material on it so that it was almost impossible to see the access holes. He had a table that had a cut out off centre. He could put objects at rest on the table but anything moved over the hole vanished. This would be used for many tricks. He had a box that you could move the bottom a see through it but there was finger holes so that you could open and close trap doors from the outside.
The back side of the mirror looked like it had a removable section. Possibly they had a backdrop with the same material as curtain but out a few feet in front of the curtain and level with the table. She could easily hide behind the backdrop which would be hard to spot since the edge would not be visible even as he spins the table because the table covers top consistently.
This is magic. Stopping the camera so the girl can climb out isn't magic.
