Covid19 data Ontario

[squeezer]

How about you mind your own damn business. If you have nothing constructive to contribute on this thread, stay the fuck off it.

Instead, why don't you stop spreading NONSENSE BULLSHIT and playing tough guy because your thought process resembles that of a child!

It has been explained to you over and over yet you keep on circling in the hopes of disparaging the vaccines and you actually believe your nonsense is coherent. You are lost, dumbfounded and delusional

 

[benstt]

Figure 7a and 7b are quite interesting. They show the proportion of cases that result in hospitalization or death by age group and by vaccination status. Perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly but it seems to me in the older age groups still have a significant risk of hospitalization or death from covid19 even if they are partially or fully vaccinated.

Your conclusion might not follow from that chart, depending on what you mean, because the chart only applies to those who have covid.

The overall risk of getting covid needs to be factored in to get at the risk of death or hospitalization, and the risk of getting covid in the first place is much lower for those who are vaccinated.

 

[Valcazar]

Your conclusion might not follow from that chart, depending on what you mean, because the chart only applies to those who have covid.

The overall risk of getting covid needs to be factored in to get at the risk of death or hospitalization, and the risk of getting covid in the first place is much lower for those who are vaccinated.

Exactly, it is why figure 7 (both a and b) point you to Table 2 in order to show you the denominators because they aren't the same for the three elements in the bar graph. It is only showing you what happens if a case does hit you (The vaccine is still protective even there) and doesn't factor in the aspect where you are less likely to get it in the first place.

 

[basketcase]

Too complicated? No
Illogical? Certainly
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Yet your method is essentially the same mathematically; the only difference is you're using the 83% for the general public while I was using 90% (which is an underestimate of the 50+ crowd; you know, the ones who are mostly filling the hospitals).


But thank you for admitting that unvaccinated people are hospitalized at a much higher rate no matter what metric (or what conspiracy theory) you want to inject into the conversation.

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4.67/0.25 = 18.7
So the unvaccinated would be driving hospitalizations at 18.7 times the rate of the fully vaccinated under this scenario.
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[basketcase]

How about you mind your own damn business. If you have nothing constructive to contribute on this thread, stay the fuck off it.

Sure thing captain of the thread. But sure, try and cancel people you disagree with.

 

[basketcase]

Figure 7a and 7b are quite interesting. They show the proportion of cases that result in hospitalization or death by age group and by vaccination status. Perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly but it seems to me in the older age groups still have a significant risk of hospitalization or death from covid19 even if they are partially or fully vaccinated.

Far less if they are vaccinated but sure, try to ignore that.

 

[Rako3]

It's sad how some people look at the data, say "The protection isn't 100%!" and thereby claim it's worthless.

Condoms aren't 100% effective. I guess they're worthless.

Not smoking isn't 100% effective against cancer. Go ahead and smoke.

Being grossly overweight isn't 100% dangerous. Pork it up.

Looking both ways before you cross the street doesn't always protect you. So just march straight across without a glance to either side.

Silly and sad.

 

[Valcazar]

Silly and sad.

It's not really silly, though.
They want to find reasons not to do something, so they pretend to be deeply stupid about numbers and how they work because it lets them do what they want.