Covert Military Action Under Way in Iran ?

[Fred Zed]

Retired Air Force Colonel Sam Gardiner says a military operation has already begun inside Iran. Gardiner says, "It's a very serious question about the constitutional framework under which we are now conducting military operations in Iran." In an interview yesterday, Gardiner discussed a similar series of covert military operations that occured in Iraq in 2002 — months before either the full-scale invasion in March 2003 or even the passage of the Congressional Iraq resolution in October 2002. :
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/143241



Asked what last-resort military option was available, Lieberman said: "I don't think anyone is thinking of this as a massive ground invasion, as in Iraq, to topple the government." Rather, he said, he envisaged "an attempt to hit some of the components of the nuclear program," primarily from the air, with some potential for covert ground assistance:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498871794&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

 

[nominis]

Al-Jazeera has been reporting on infiltration (acts of war ) inside of Iran ...

 

[rogerstaubach]

Gee, if Clinton had actually engaged in any form of responsible and active covert engagements in Afghanistan during the 1990's(while AQ was committing terrorist attack after terrorist attack against America) then the likelihood of 9/11 would have greatly diminished.

In fact the very meek, minimal and woefully supported CIA/Northern Alliance covert operations inside Afghanistan were cancelled altogether by Clinton.

Forging alliances with anti-Thugocracy forces in Iran, covert ops, and intelligence gathering would seem to be absolute rerquirements for any responsilbe gov't to engage in when faced with a threat that Western democracies view Iran as.

 

[Gyaos]

The only chance Bush Jr. has to invade Iran is with congessional approval, which he'll get with the Republican majority. Best time for attacking is late December, early January when the weather is cool.

Not to sound like a supporter of war, but IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME THE UNITED STATES WENT INTO IRAN AND DESTROYED THE FUCKING PLACE!! THOSE BASTARDS SCREWED US IN 1979, IT'S TIME TO DESTROY THOSE MULLAHS AND THEIR UNELECTED GOVERNMENT AS A BONUS!!

Thank you.

Gyaos Baltar:

P.S.: We all know the Iraqi's won't get off their asses and clean up the place after what was done for them, so after we parking lot Iran, let the Iranians clean up the mess.

P.P.S.: If nuked, which way will the radiation cloud fly?

 

[danmand]

P.P.S.: If nuked, which way will the radiation cloud fly?

there is an old Persian saying: The ass wanted to punish his owner, so he died.

 

[assoholic]

..Bush is a traitor to the American way of life and if he nukes any-one will go down in history as one of the vilest pieces of shit ever to have lived.

 

[Papi Chulo]

..Bush is a traitor to the American way of life and if he nukes any-one will go down in history as one of the vilest pieces of shit ever to have lived.

not quite as vile as someone who killed a few jews about 60 years ago

 

[WoodPeckr]

not quite as vile as someone who killed a few jews about 60 years ago

Yes Adolf and his Team killed a few jews but don't forget the nazies in addition killed over four times as many Russians as Jews.

From that perspective you have to say Dubya and his Team 'w', vile factor is still 'bush league' in comparison.

However the biggest danger of Dubya and his Team of 'Fucking Crazies', as Colin Powell so aptly defined the nutzy neocons surrounding Dubya, is that these Fucking Crazies, who control and tell Dubya what to do and say, just may start WWIII before they are through!..........

 

[assoholic]

...ya I would say that would pit him in Hitlers leaugue.Who knows what kind of damage that Radiation would do, how many innocents would die in the next 50 years.

 

[The Mugger]

Gee, if Clinton had actually engaged in any form of responsible and active covert engagements in Afghanistan during the 1990's(while AQ was committing terrorist attack after terrorist attack against America) then the likelihood of 9/11 would have greatly diminished.

Truer words have not been..... well you know. It's amazing how Republicans got their panties in a bunch during the Clinton era and accused Clinton doing this to distract from his BBBJ problems. Now if you question Republican foreign policy today your accused of being stuck in pre 9/11 thinking or better still Republican policies during the Clinton years.

If they have gone into Iran - good, bit I doubt they have.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Truer words have not been..... well you know. It's amazing how Republicans got their panties in a bunch during the Clinton era and accused Clinton doing this to distract from his BBBJ problems. Now if you question Republican foreign policy today your accused of being stuck in pre 9/11 thinking or better still Republican policies during the Clinton years.

LOL!
Ain't it the truth!
Unfortunately this is a distinction that rogie's wee little OxyContinized brain is unable to fathom.......

....but then again as one of KKK Rove's obfuscating, walking, talking points guy, that's not his job......

 

[Fred Zed]

Russia will not take sides if US attacks

If the tension between the United States and Iran mounts and involves the use of force, Moscow will not be in anybody's camp, said Yuri Baluyevski, Chief of the Russian Military Staff: http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&trh=20060421&hn=32301

 

[Gyaos]

Excellent.

And if China says the same, then those would be votes to "abstain" in the UN and the US with a coalition will be all in to destroy Iran. I think it's likely going to happen with oil surging and more than likely to happen around.....why what a good guess.....the US election. The Republicans still won't win in 2006, however.

And if a coalition attacks, US, Britain, France, Germany, and anyone else that wants to jump on-board, oil will not rise, but drop by $30.00 - $50.00 a barrel in a 2 week period (given oil will be at $100.00). Free countries, and soon to be economic power-houses like China and India will not give in to $100.00 oil surge dictation from the hateful fake mullahs in Iran supporting Terrorists, Hugo Chavez supporting yesterday's cologne and moronic, corrupt Nigerians.

It was a long time coming and I fully support a huge military action on Iran and on the current Palestinian government. All pigs. Deployments coming in Sepetmber for an all out assault by January (when the weather is cool). And I wouldn't be surprised in the absolute least, that Isreal goes in first via air while the US and the coalition deploys.

They're going in. And the US Media like CNN, MSNBC, Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc., certainly want another Hollywood War like Atari's Missile Command before the Dems take over so to sell loads of ad space pushing double priced pharma pills, cars, and Frosted Flakes. It will also surge the US Dollar in strength because the US will have to grant China a weak Yuan as a concession, which is what they want.

Gyaos.

 

[rogerstaubach]

Truer words have not been..... well you know. It's amazing how Republicans got their panties in a bunch during the Clinton era and accused Clinton doing this to distract from his BBBJ problems. Now if you question Republican foreign policy today your accused of being stuck in pre 9/11 thinking or better still Republican policies during the Clinton years.

If they have gone into Iran - good, bit I doubt they have.

Clinton endorsed, supported, strengthened and legitimized OBL and AQ/RIFT in Bosnia during his incompetent and comatose presidency of utter failure. From Bosnia the Clinton proxy AQ set up cells in Europe from which they planned and then launched attacks on 9/11 and in Europe. The Clinton/AQ alliance led directly from Bosnia to 9/11.

Clinton "globalized" the AQ/RIFT mission statement with his policy of endorsing, supporting, strengthening and legitimizing AQ/RIFT during the Bosnian conflicts.

Emboldened by Clinton's incomprehensible support of themselves, AQ attacked WTC 1, American military barracks, American Embassies and American warships believing that the Clinton response would be feeble at best and non-existant in reality. Their assumptions about Clinton's incompetent response and comatose state proved factually correct. Emboldened by and 'encoruaged by' Clinton, AQ planned and then executed 9/11.

Further evidence of Clinton's incompetence was his decision to scuttle the covert CIA mission in allegiance with the Northern Alliance that was attempting to locate and target for elimination OBL and AQ in Afghanistan. I mean, talk about complete and utter incompetence. Scuttling this mission!!!

AQ/RIFT knew they had a sucka in the White House from '93 till 2000. And they played him like a ventriloquist plays his dummy. Unbelievable, incomprehensible incompetence and utterly comatose-like, criminally negligent Clinton was. That is his infamous legacy.


Attempts as usual to obfuscate and cloud Clinton's legacy of complicity with AQ/RIFT, and his utter incompetence in recognizing and dealing with the TRUE threat. Unbelievable Mugger. 8 friggin years during the 90's of supporting AQ/RIFT murderous atrocities in Bosnia/Kosovo. 8 friggin years of not recognizing reality(WTC 1, barracks bombings, 2 embassy bombings, USS Cole). 8 friggin years of feeble and non-existant attempts to forcibly deal with AQ/RIFT which included scuttling CIA covert ops in Afghanistan.

Unfrigginbelievable

 

[danmand]

Clinton endorsed, supported, strengthened and legitimized OBL and AQ/RIFT in Bosnia during his incompetent and comatose presidency of utter failure. From Bosnia the Clinton proxy AQ set up cells in Europe from which they planned and then launched attacks on 9/11 and in Europe. The Clinton/AQ alliance led directly from Bosnia to 9/11.

Clinton "globalized" the AQ/RIFT mission statement with his policy of endorsing, supporting, strengthening and legitimizing AQ/RIFT during the Bosnian conflicts.

Emboldened by Clinton's incomprehensible support of themselves, AQ attacked WTC 1, American military barracks, American Embassies and American warships believing that the Clinton response would be feeble at best and non-existant in reality. Their assumptions about Clinton's incompetent response and comatose state proved factually correct. Emboldened by and 'encoruaged by' Clinton, AQ planned and then executed 9/11.

Further evidence of Clinton's incompetence was his decision to scuttle the covert CIA mission in allegiance with the Northern Alliance that was attempting to locate and target for elimination OBL and AQ in Afghanistan. I mean, talk about complete and utter incompetence. Scuttling this mission!!!

AQ/RIFT knew they had a sucka in the White House from '93 till 2000. And they played him like a ventriloquist plays his dummy. Unbelievable, incomprehensible incompetence and utterly comatose-like, criminally negligent Clinton was. That is his infamous legacy.


Attempts as usual to obfuscate and cloud Clinton's legacy of complicity with AQ/RIFT, and his utter incompetence in recognizing and dealing with the TRUE threat. Unbelievable Mugger. 8 friggin years during the 90's of supporting AQ/RIFT murderous atrocities in Bosnia/Kosovo. 8 friggin years of not recognizing reality(WTC 1, barracks bombings, 2 embassy bombings, USS Cole). 8 friggin years of feeble and non-existant attempts to forcibly deal with AQ/RIFT which included scuttling CIA covert ops in Afghanistan.

Unfrigginbelievable

Hey, dude, have you noticed that Clinton aint president no more?

 

[rogerstaubach]

Hey, dude, have you noticed that Clinton aint president no more?

Really???

But, we are still embroiled in the catastrophic consequences and horrific blowback of his incompetent and comatose policies of ineptitude in regards to AQ/RIFT.

So, in reality Clinton unfortunately lives in on the global reach and aspirations of AQ/RIFT.

The legacy of failure.

Thanks alot Slick Willy!

 

[danmand]

Really???

But, we are still embroiled in the catastrophic consequences and horrific blowback of his incompetent and comatose policies of ineptitude in regards to AQ/RIFT.

So, in reality Clinton unfortunately lives in on the global reach and aspirations of AQ/RIFT.

The legacy of failure.

Thanks alot Slick Willy!

So, why are you not raving and ranting about the US administration that armed and supplied Saddam Hussein. Here is a hint: Cheney and Rumsfeld were hadling Saddam. Pray tell us.

 

[rogerstaubach]

So, why are you not raving and ranting about the US administration that armed and supplied Saddam Hussein. Here is a hint: Cheney and Rumsfeld were hadling Saddam. Pray tell us.

Promoting the Clinton legacy of failure in regards to AQ/RIFT is my game, danmand.

But, if you wish you can "rant and rave" all you want about arming and supplying Saddam Hussein.

Go ahead.

 

[Fred Zed]

Size matters in invasions and military strikes. The USA doesn't have the size with it's troops bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Of Course Bush won't be able to get a draft going until he is in Iran because a majority of Americans don't want the draft or anything like it.

EU

REP. JOHN MURTHA (D-PA)
“There’s no way [President Bush is] going to take military action in Iran. Iran is, is three times as big geographically, there’s 58 million people vs. 26 million people in, in Iraq, and, and there’s no way. A fanatical government — I mean, the, the president of the United States does not have a military option. He can say he has a military option; he does not have a military option.” [3/19/06]:
http://thinkprogress.org/iran-military-option

 

[SilentLeviathan]

I really don't see how the American's will be able to take any military action in Iran after all the bungling in Iraq.

I know a lot of Persians and they all say they same thing; they want democracy but they want to bring it about themselves. They've had enough of the West's messing with their internal affairs. That's how they got to this point in the first place.