Conservative attack adds

[Insidious Von]

I'm placing this topic in the general area, it needs to be discussed by a wider group than the political section allots.

Stephen Harper is going heavy with his American style attack adds once again. You can't argue with success, the adds covered Stephane Dion and Michael Ignatieff with tonnes of shit. He's won two elections pointing out the frailties of his opposition, the fact that they were an exercise in mendacity never registered with Canadian voters. Can he win again making Justin Trudeau look like Pee Wee Herman?

 

[Butler1000]

I'm placing this topic in the general area, it needs to be discussed by a wider group than the political section allots.

Stephen Harper is going heavy with his American style attack adds once again. You can't argue with success, the adds covered Stephane Dion and Michael Ignatieff with tonnes of shit. He's won two elections pointing out the frailties of his opposition, the fact that they were an exercise in mendacity never registered with Canadian voters. Can he win again making Justin Trudeau look like Pee Wee Herman?

I seem to remember the "soldiers in the streets" ad by the Liberals.

In other words they all do it because it works.

And yes Junior has through his various comments given the Tory's more than enough ammo to question his ability to lead. Don't doubt all three parties will be gunning for eachother. None of the parties will be able to take the high road on this topic.

 

[MattRoxx]

No, because Harper is going to be implicated in the Duffy trial. And there is only so much hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance actual conservatives can tolerate.
Pot smokers deserve jail time but Cons who commit fraud against Canada deserve...re-election?! I don't see how that will fly.

For instance the Con Caption Contest:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/03/04/trudeau-caption-contest_n_6796654.html

and the attack ads are completely at odds with

Protecting Canadians from Online Crime Act. We are delivering on our commitment in the 2013 Speech from the Throne to help ensure that our children are better protected against all types of bullying including cyberbullying.

http://www.conservative.ca/cyberbullying/

See, cyberbullying is bad, except when Harper's Cons do it. Similarly, the Harper Cons launched something called The Office Of Religious Freedom. But in complete contradiction of religious freedom, Harper and his minister of citizenship and immigration are appealing the ruling against the hijab ban during citizenship ceremony. Because apparently some religions deserve less freedom than others.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...ban-on-wearing-niqab-during-citizenship-oath/

 

[Jiffypop69]

I think there should be a 2 term maximum (like the USA) For prime minister in Canada ...After 6 or 7 years the incumbents have the system rigged, and have figured out how to screw us with ease ...
It's definitely time Harper got voted out... and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'll be voting NDP. .. I've been a lifelong PC'r.
The attack ads do absolutely zero for me.

 

[TESLAMotors]

Biggest hypocrite around, worse than Bush I think. If not, he's pretty damn close.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

No, because Harper is going to be implicated in the Duffy trial. And there is only so much hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance actual conservatives can tolerate.
Pot smokers deserve jail time but Cons who commit fraud against Canada deserve...re-election?! I don't see how that will fly.

For instance the Con Caption Contest:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/03/04/trudeau-caption-contest_n_6796654.html

and the attack ads are completely at odds with

http://www.conservative.ca/cyberbullying/

See, cyberbullying is bad, except when Harper's Cons do it. Similarly, the Harper Cons launched something called The Office Of Religious Freedom. But in complete contradiction of religious freedom, Harper and his minister of citizenship and immigration are appealing the ruling against the hijab ban during citizenship ceremony. Because apparently some religions deserve less freedom than others.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...ban-on-wearing-niqab-during-citizenship-oath/

That is what I thought was well. I thought the push for all these new bills is because they know he will not make it after Duffy's trail.

I heard a rumor that there was talk about calling an election last year before the trail, but I assume it was decided to use all the time the Cons had in a majority office to do the work on the bills they want.

 

[stay]

Socrates comes to mind whenever politics is discussed.

The Harper government has always been running attack ads and yes they all do.

BUT you haven't seen corruption until you have lived in places like Ukraine or the Philippines.

 

[Sugar-D]

Socrates comes to mind whenever politics is discussed.

The Harper government has always been running attack ads and yes they all do.

BUT you haven't seen corruption until you have lived in places like Ukraine or the Philippines.

^^true story. But it is sad that we have to use "at least we aren't as bad as (insert 3rd world country name here).

 

[stay]

^^true story. But it is sad that we have to use "at least we aren't as bad as (insert 3rd world country name here).

I was referring to Plato's republic and history has shown this to be true.

Yes and Oagre believes that Ukraine after 23 years of independence from Russia is going to turn things around. Nobody even wanted their Chocolate because they decided not to put cocoa in it. Yeah that was all Russia's fault, 23 years of rampant corruption.. Now the current president has seen his bank do well, to me it is just more of the same. The problem in Ukraine besides the corruption is there are no jobs. This I believe has been the main concern with voters in all elections. People generally don't give a damn about anything else except putting a roof over their head and food in their children's bellies.

What is even more sad is that these people steal money from me and get away with it.

 

[red]

it should be that any such spending on these ads counts against the limits in the next election.

that way we don't have to hear from these fuckers (any politician) outside of the election.

 

[GPIDEAL]

No, because Harper is going to be implicated in the Duffy trial. And there is only so much hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance actual conservatives can tolerate.
Pot smokers deserve jail time but Cons who commit fraud against Canada deserve...re-election?! I don't see how that will fly.

For instance the Con Caption Contest:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/03/04/trudeau-caption-contest_n_6796654.html

and the attack ads are completely at odds with

http://www.conservative.ca/cyberbullying/

See, cyberbullying is bad, except when Harper's Cons do it. Similarly, the Harper Cons launched something called The Office Of Religious Freedom. But in complete contradiction of religious freedom, Harper and his minister of citizenship and immigration are appealing the ruling against the hijab ban during citizenship ceremony. Because apparently some religions deserve less freedom than others.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...ban-on-wearing-niqab-during-citizenship-oath/

Good points (mind you, I think that hijab thing is more cultural or traditional than pure religion).

Let's hope the Duffy trial exposes the PMO.

Although I doubt that Harper will lose the election. Let's hope his power base diminishes.

 

[nobody123]

No, because Harper is going to be implicated in the Duffy trial. And there is only so much hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance actual conservatives can tolerate.
Pot smokers deserve jail time but Cons who commit fraud against Canada deserve...re-election?! I don't see how that will fly.

Part of the problem with that is that Trudeau really is such a jackass that he has already dropped the ball on this one. Instead of hammering that very real and solely relevant point home time and again, he ghot taken in by the smoke and mirrors and let Harper redirect the conversation towards the senate in general. Fuck's sakes, he went so far as to "unliberal" the liberal senators. So now, instead of one conversation about lying corrupt liars paying off corrupt lying liars, we have two conversations. Instead of an election season where Harper would be unable to avoid the stench of the Duffy scandal, we let him slip and segue into a "related" conversation that isn't, really.

 

[rhuarc29]

Every time I hear the "budget will balance itself" ad by the Conservatives it really pisses me off, because it's so misleading and I know some people will fall for it. Whether or not you agree with Trudeau's strategy, it is true that if you grow the economy while maintaining current government spending, the budget would indeed balance itself through greater tax revenues. That is what Trudeau was saying. But the Conservatives saw it as an easy opportunity to belittle Trudeau and make him out to be fanciful, so the context is ignored.

 

[IM469]

Every time I hear the "budget will balance itself" ad by the Conservatives it really pisses me off, because it's so misleading and I know some people will fall for it.

Sadly, there is no IQ test for voting so Harper usually targets the those of the lower demographic the is more influenced by beer, patriotism which is waved like a red cape at a charging bull and who are virtually illiterate regarding news.

Other being the son of a politician I wasn't that fond of - Trudeau Jr hasn't defined himself. His distancing himself from 'the government has no business in the our bedroom' philosophy of his dad (the one credit I give PET) he has shirked issues that require backbone. Still Harper is starting a smear campaign to paint the image he would have Trudeau represent. Based on fear mongering against all Muslims, patriotism, terrorism ... Harper will paint him so that Trudeau is too busy trying to defend his image than to attack the huge number of flaws and political corruption of Harper. Trudeau will be off balance and Harper - that slimy piece of shit - will get a free pass to continue to tax the middle class and impose his Victorian morals on the rest of the population.

Once again I'm going to find myself voting against someone rather than feeling good about who I'm voting for. I just wish the opposition would start painting Harper - the thought bof another 4 years with him makes my stomach turn.

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

One word .... DESPARATE!!!!

 

[rhuarc29]

Once again I'm going to find myself voting against someone rather than feeling good about who I'm voting for.

Unfortunately true. That's the way it's been for me for awhile now.

One word .... DESPARATE!!!!

I wish that were true, but I'm not so sure.

 

[HEYHEY]

 

[tml]

He's won two elections pointing out the frailties of his opposition

He won those elections due to a lack of competition.

 

[james t kirk]

I just about throw a hammer at the radio every time I hear that idiotic ad with the nauseating music and 905 momster voice about "the budget will balance itself" and how Stephen Harper is somehow for the children and utter bullshit like that. Families this and children that.

Fuck me, not everyone has children.

I could never stand Harper.

If the left wasn't splintered, he would be turfed in a second flat.

I think Trudeau is an intellectual light weight, I wish Mulcair was the head of the liberals as I think he's the best guy for the job. But I just can't vote for the NDP.

 

[twizz]

Conservative MPs are the least likely to be university educated/have higher education. Very few people with science backgrounds are among all three major parties. Conservatives MPs are mostly old white guys and don't represent the diverse demographics of Canada, and a third of them don't have postsecondary credentials.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/canada/2015/01/02/parliaments_lack_of_diversity_goes_beyond_race_gender_study.html