Conrad Black
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he was found guilty of three charges of mail fraud and one for obstruction of justice.
The obstruction of justice relates to contravening a Cdn court order. not sure how the US charges him with this?
I also don't understand how he can be convicted of mail fraud- (i.e. sending fraudulent materials through the mail?) for sending documents by courier when he is acquitted on all the other charges related to the same documents?
The obstruction of justice relates to contravening a Cdn court order. not sure how the US charges him with this?
I also don't understand how he can be convicted of mail fraud- (i.e. sending fraudulent materials through the mail?) for sending documents by courier when he is acquitted on all the other charges related to the same documents?
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justice will only be served if he does 10 yrs in jail or goes broke trying to appeal.Radio_Shack said:He will not spend any time in Jail..Wait and see :/
I'm with you on this. I'm sure his appeal was already pretty much printed and bound before the verdicts came down.Radio_Shack said:He will not spend any time in Jail..Wait and see :/
Bail hearing to come...
Had to surrender passport.
********************************Esco! said:Is he in prison while he appeals, or is he out on bail????
Does anyone know??
Had to surrender passport.
He hasn't been sentenced yet, so he can remain out on bail at least until his sentencing date. Not sure if he can stay on bail while he appeals the verdict or not. Just because he can get 35 years doesn't mean he will.
My bet in the office pool is on 5 years total sentence.
As for the obstruction charge - I think they said that charge related to his removing many boxes of documents from his office the day before he had to turn them over to the feds.
My bet in the office pool is on 5 years total sentence.
As for the obstruction charge - I think they said that charge related to his removing many boxes of documents from his office the day before he had to turn them over to the feds.
So Black's sentencing date isn't until Nov 30.
He's been free on 21 million bond during the trial. Government wanted him remanded to custody after the verdict today. Judge said no, but another bail hearing is set up for Thursday July 19. At that hearing his new bail amount/terms will be discussed - the bail decided at the hearing is what would keep him out of jail from July 19 till November 30...or not. I can't see them making him stay in custody prior to sentencing - his crime wasn't violent and he has lots of money for high bail.
If he skips town this week to parts unknown he'd forfeit his 21 million bond.
Funny part was the prosecution thinks he might flee to Toronto, as if we're a haven for int'l fugutives. So until the bail hearing on July 19 he has to stay in the Chicago area and not flee to Canada, plus give the court his passport.
He's been free on 21 million bond during the trial. Government wanted him remanded to custody after the verdict today. Judge said no, but another bail hearing is set up for Thursday July 19. At that hearing his new bail amount/terms will be discussed - the bail decided at the hearing is what would keep him out of jail from July 19 till November 30...or not. I can't see them making him stay in custody prior to sentencing - his crime wasn't violent and he has lots of money for high bail.
If he skips town this week to parts unknown he'd forfeit his 21 million bond.
Funny part was the prosecution thinks he might flee to Toronto, as if we're a haven for int'l fugutives. So until the bail hearing on July 19 he has to stay in the Chicago area and not flee to Canada, plus give the court his passport.
Apparently because he's not an American he's not eligible for minimum security prison:
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/CP_stories.php?id=51661
That means he must serve in medium security, which is even worse
In medium security Black would mix with people from all walks of life, including white-collar criminals, drug dealers and murderers
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/CP_stories.php?id=51661
That means he must serve in medium security, which is even worse
In medium security Black would mix with people from all walks of life, including white-collar criminals, drug dealers and murderers
Like in Alice's restaurant: Rapists and murderers, motherfuckers and fatherrapists.Esco! said:Apparently because he's not an American he's not eligible for minimum security prison:
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/CP_stories.php?id=51661
That means he must serve in medium security, which is even worse
In medium security Black would mix with people from all walks of life, including white-collar criminals, drug dealers and murderers
what country is his passport for?toughb said:********************************
Had to surrender passport.
that is what I thought,but because of our ties he will be allowed into Canada right with just a birth cert.Esco! said:British
I dont think running is an option for him, where's he gonna hide????lickrolaine said:that is what I thought,but because of our ties he will be allowed into Canada right with just a birth cert.
Everyone knows what he looks like, he'd be spotted within a day
EDIT: He had to surrender his passport and he cant leave the Chicago area
http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/235634
