Condo owners in TO get poor return, compared to homeowners

Smallcock

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"In 2016, he paid $60,307 in taxes on the property; based on the 2017 value, his taxes will climb to $147,000."

"In 2016, he paid $68,852 in taxes. Based on the 2017 value, his taxes will be an estimated $175,000."

"He cites a restaurant at 703 Denman St., that has risen in value by 268 per cent from last year, with new taxes estimated to increase to $614,000 from about $229,000. He says a public market building at 1610 Robson is also facing a 268-per-cent increase in value, with taxes estimated to rise to $727,000 from $272,000."

Wow!
 

Shakeandbake

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I don't think you can say either renting or buying is "smartest" because it depends on many factors including your lifestyle, if you're single, have kids, sources of income, willingness to move for work, etc. There are millions of people in other countries that rent and are perfectly fine. Remember, that the global financial crisis was caused by the US housing market.

I think people confuse their home as an investment because of it's supposed market value. It is actually worth nothing if you have no desire to move. Even if you want to move to make a gain, you still have the switching costs of buying a new home, real estate and legal fees and land transfer tax. Then there's the ongoing maintenance of the home that you will be paying even when you're mortgage is paid off. Renters have fewer things to worry about i.e. if the roof falls or the pipes burst they call the building manager. A home owner has the fun and joy of dealing with that themselves. The problem of having so much of your net worth tied up in your home is how to get all that equity out. That's why someone invented reverse mortgages, which are a borderline scam IMO.

You can't really compare stocks and real estate equally as investments since they are very different things. Stocks can be traded instantly virtually anywhere. Real estate is not liquid in comparison. If you look at the very long term of 25 to 30 years, the stock market actually beats the housing market even with all the massive crashes.

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...-historically-stock-market-or-real-estate.asp
I agree with this post and want to add that noone is talking Interest... Depending on your morgage rate you can spend a tonne on interest over 25 or 30 years ... So here is a real life Toronto example. A family lives in a suburban house and rents for 2 k per month. The house is worth 900K so the morgage on the home would be about double what the rent would be plus taxes ... If the rented invested the difference they would be much farther ahead than the home owner after 30 years and not have thier money tied up in a home .. yes I know that this agruement in lacking specific details but its just a quick and dirty about how renters can actually be wealthier than homeowners if they invest
 

explorerzip

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I agree with this post and want to add that noone is talking Interest... Depending on your morgage rate you can spend a tonne on interest over 25 or 30 years ... So here is a real life Toronto example. A family lives in a suburban house and rents for 2 k per month. The house is worth 900K so the morgage on the home would be about double what the rent would be plus taxes ... If the rented invested the difference they would be much farther ahead than the home owner after 30 years and not have thier money tied up in a home .. yes I know that this agruement in lacking specific details but its just a quick and dirty about how renters can actually be wealthier than homeowners if they invest
It really depends on what you spend your money on after your mortgage or rent. Both can spend money on stupid things.
 
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