Computer Hard Drive Question?

homer

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Hello:

My PC's hard drive started making some unusually loud noise (spinning sound) when staring up recently. After about a minute, it quiets down to normal. I was wondering if I need to replace my hard drive, and if so, can it just be copied directly over to the new one? Will it copy all files and programs? I'm not much on the tech side, so I would be taking it in to my local compu-repair place. Thanks

Homer
 

LickRus

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If you know its the hard drive and not a fan (from cpu or power supply), you can run a diagnostic from the hd website. But if your sure its the HD, its on its way out (once HDs start making noises its gone) you can use a program like acronis or ghost to clone it. Do it asap.

Hello:

My PC's hard drive started making some unusually loud noise (spinning sound) when staring up recently. After about a minute, it quiets down to normal. I was wondering if I need to replace my hard drive, and if so, can it just be copied directly over to the new one? Will it copy all files and programs? I'm not much on the tech side, so I would be taking it in to my local compu-repair place. Thanks

Homer
 

Art Mann

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Simple solution: replace it.

Hard drives can wear out and seize up. Then it's expensive to get your data back ... if you're lucky to get it back at all.

Go to a solid state drive (no moving parts), and get the biggest you can afford.
 

explorerzip

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Simple solution: replace it.

Hard drives can wear out and seize up. Then it's expensive to get your data back ... if you're lucky to get it back at all.

Go to a solid state drive (no moving parts), and get the biggest you can afford.
Solid state (SSD) drives also wear out, but in a different way. You can only write to the memory chips a finite a number of times before you you can't access them any more. You can write to a memory chip a very big number of times, but it isn't infinite. The cost per megabyte is still quite high for SSD's.

I'd recommend to use an SSD for Windows and high performance apps (like Photoshop or games) and a traditional hard drive for data files like video, pictures, etc. Putting the data on an SSD is a waste because you won't gain any performance that way. Having two types of hard drives in your PC also separates Windows from the data, which is preferred in case your Windows hard drive fails.
 

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I use a setup just as explorerzip detailed. Operating system on one drive and personal data on another. It is then just easy to be able to keep the second HD backed up and also to be able to refresh my OS on occasion. One does not interfere with the other.

Note: About 6 months ago I switched to a SSD for my OS harddrive. It cut down my boot time down to a 1/4 of the old drive. Sweet. It also came with software to completely copy the old drive. The process was so easy any one could do it. Also if you go the route of having a stand alone OS harddrive, it doesn't have to be huge. With Windows 7 I have a 120g HD and it is only half full. That also gives Windows lots of space for virtual ram.

A SSD also runs hotter than a normal HD, so when you mount it, make sure it has some air flow around it.

Good Luck.

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Alfonzo

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Probably the fan. Vacuum carefully, there may be dust accumulating and nothing more to worry about.
 

LOVETHATBBBJ

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Probably the fan. Vacuum carefully, there may be dust accumulating and nothing more to worry about.
So true, for a HD to making some unusually loud noise to last a minute, I don't think you will be able to use it by now. Most likely CPU or power supply fan.
 

homer

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wow, thanks for all the suggestions! Will try the fan suggestion first, and hopefully that will be it!
 

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Homer - back it up anyway - NOW

At minimum pull off all of your stuff on there. i.e. Everything below the user folder. Before you see the my documnets folder, one step before there should be users - drag that folder and it will take it all with it to a external drive. Now you will have access to anything you created. Then vacuum etc etc.
 

explorerzip

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So true, for a HD to making some unusually loud noise to last a minute, I don't think you will be able to use it by now. Most likely CPU or power supply fan.
Case fans are easily replaced too. CPU and power supply fans are not as easy to replace especially if you're not a technical person.
 

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How old is the HD? If it's 5+ years old, as others have said, back data and replace the drive. It's not a case of, if it will fail, it's when. Backing up a HD will not save programs. You will have to re-install them. Best to make a list of all your programs, anti-virus etc. so you don't forget what you had.
 

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Sorry for the ignorant question(not a computer guy), but how does one back up a hard drive. Thanks in advance.
 

explorerzip

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Sorry for the ignorant question(not a computer guy), but how does one back up a hard drive. Thanks in advance.
Depends on what you want to backup. If you're just backing up individual data files (pictures, MP3 files, movies, documents, etc) you'd simply copy them from one hard drive to another hard drive, USB flash drive, network,,etc. Windows 7 has a Backup utility that you can pick and choose the files and folders to backup as well. You can also use a cloud service like Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. and copy the files or folders you want to backup into the special Dropbox, or Google Drive folders. The benefit here is that you can control exactly what to back up, but it can be a daunting task to locate every possible file and setting.

If you have iTunes, Google Play, Amazon data (movies, books, music and apps) that you've legally paid for, then you don't have to back them up because they live on the Internet.

Backup up your whole PC so that it saves all your settings, favourites, etc. is a bit more complicated. There is software like Acronis TruImage and Symantec Ghost that will take a snap shot of your whole PC: documents, music, settings and all. The benefit of this method is that you grab everything on your entire PC in one shot and it would be exactly the same if you copied that image onto another hard drive. The downside is that you can only back up to a separate hard drive. The image is also only as good as your last back up i.e. a 2 year old snap shot of your PC won't do you much good because you're probably installed lots of software, added documents, etc. The other issue is that you generally cannot use that snapshot on a different PC. This is also true if you decide to change a major piece of hardware on your PC like the motherboard and CPU.
 

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wow, thanks for all the suggestions! Will try the fan suggestion first, and hopefully that will be it!
A friend of mine from Toronto told me that he picked up a few discarded PCs left for disposal on the curb by neighbours. He said most of the time, it was the fans which were dirty and caked with dirts and which caused the failure of the PCs.
 

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Sorry for the ignorant question(not a computer guy), but how does one back up a hard drive. Thanks in advance.
I'm a mac guy and use a program called carbon copy cloner, it just clones a drive.
Does it well enough that I can pop out the old drive and put in a new one and carry on as usual (except for pesky software authorizations that use the machine code).
Must be something like that for pc.
 

homer

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Hello!

Thanks so much for all the suggestions and help! I cleaned the fans gently as suggested, and voila, no noise! Thanks again for all the help, this is one of the joys of TERB, a wealth of knowledge and expertise! I will however, be attempting a back-up , as soon as time allows!

Homer
 

explorerzip

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Hello!

Thanks so much for all the suggestions and help! I cleaned the fans gently as suggested, and voila, no noise! Thanks again for all the help, this is one of the joys of TERB, a wealth of knowledge and expertise! I will however, be attempting a back-up , as soon as time allows!

Homer
You may want to pick up some replacement fans too just in case.
 
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