Cold season rant

Franken

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It seems that each year around this time, I see a girl who mentions that she has a cold - after the session has started and sometimes after we've been kissing. Please, some advance warning would be good. Let me make the decision as to whether or not I'd like to proceed with the plans. Truthfully, 8 times out of 10, I'll let the little head decide and will happily risk catching your cold but there are times where I truly cannot afford to get one and in those times it would be nice to know the score in advance. Is it as rare as it seems for girls to warn their dates when they have a cold or flu?
 
In my opinion, anyone with a lowered immune system (cold or flu), SP or Hobbyist, should not partake in the hobby. :mad: Even if we play safe, we still get extremely close to each other, making transmission of viruses that much easier.
 
Good point & very fair..

Franken said:
It seems that each year around this time, I see a girl who mentions that she has a cold - after the session has started and sometimes after we've been kissing. Please, some advance warning would be good. Let me make the decision as to whether or not I'd like to proceed with the plans. Truthfully, 8 times out of 10, I'll let the little head decide and will happily risk catching your cold but there are times where I truly cannot afford to get one and in those times it would be nice to know the score in advance. Is it as rare as it seems for girls to warn their dates when they have a cold or flu?

I make a point of asking to be told if they have a paper cut before visiting. Everyone should get to make an informed decision.
As a Sugar Daddy, I have spent time with gals who were in agony with health issues. No sex, barely able to hold hands:o . But for the ones that matter to me, I'd rather be with them hurtin' than not at all. However, my choice.
 
I understand Bear and I enjoy playing nurse sometimes myself. What I'm saying is it would be good to know in advance since it isn't always convenient to come down with a cold, and we are seeing each other professionally.
 
I always let a client know if I'm feeling under the weather beforehand. If he says he doesn't care and I'm feeling okay enough then I may go ahead with it but I always leave the decision up to him.

It works both ways - I cannot tell you the number of times I've discovered that the client was sick after the session has started (including after already kissing like mentioned above). It's a respect issue as far as I'm concerned.

I accept the fact that I have a higher risk of catching colds & flus because of the intimate nature of the biz but it's still a real hassle sometimes. It's not fair for me to then have to cancel my appointments for the next week or so just because a client was being selfish and just wanted to get laid. :(
 
KWI said:
I can sooooooooooo relate to this one. It is very frustrating as this is our source of income, and for some, their only source of income. To be out sick for a couple of days or even a week is unfair to the provider because as the client you still want to get laid. Guys can easily decline certain services or even go to a rub-n-tug, or oral only provider etc, for a release.

I am the same way, if I am sick, even with a little cold, I will let me clients know at booking. It is their money and they have the right to know and make the choice for themselves. It would be just as unfair for the client to take time off work or pass it on to the wife and kids at home. It is simply respect.
If you have a contagious disease or illness you should not see clients. Period.
Needing the income is not an excuse. Part of being in business for yourself is charging enough for your billable hours to cover your down time and non-billable time. If an SP had a STD, that excuse doesn't fly so it should be no different with any communicable health risk.

I believe that SPs should command the same respect as any self employed business person...but with that respect comes responsibility.

For example:
At $200/hour you only need on average 10.5 one hour appointments a week, 48 weeks a year to gross $100,000/year.
That leaves lots of room for down time.
 
KWI said:
It is very frustrating as this is our source of income, and for some, their only source of income.
I thought you imported Cubans on the side. ;)
 
KWI said:
Excuse me, When did colds turn into STD's????? Do you think I condone working with an STD??? Seriously, you are out of your mind!

Not only that, but I have regulars who book the same time every week. If I get a little cough, or the sniffles, I let the client know and he can decide. That is his choice. If I even feel like working. If it is a serious cold, I don't want to work anyways. I will not make a appointments with newbies, but this has worked for me and my clients for many years now.

Lastly, I never said I needed the income. Or that it was MY sole source of income. For you to assume what my weekly and yearly is and how much down time that leaves me is your assumption. I am sorry but I don't make judgments about how much you or other clients make as their yearly income. I was always brought up that it is rude to discuss someone's else money.

You are entitled to your opinion, that is fine. And maybe I am taking your post the wrong way but please don't assume that I knowing walk into a call with a cold and say screw you to the client and not tell him. I don't even let him confirm the appointment unless he wants to see me. Making his own choice. And this is with a simple little cold, not a big cold or the flu or anything like that. Being self employed means I take lots of time off, because I either need to, or just want to. That is the luxury I have working for myself at this and my other job.

and hunter001 - SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! that is suppose to be our little secret. I won't bring you any sexy chica's the next time I go to Cuba. ;)
KWI, You brought up income in your initial response which makes income a part of your rationalization. We have never met so I make no assumptions about how you run your business.

But I quote you
"It is very frustrating as this is our source of income, and for some, their only source of income."

In order to put my point in perspective I only offered a simple calculation which of course is a major generalization. In fact, I think I am being quite respectful because I position SPs in line with other professions that bill out their time. My whole point is that as with many other trades you can't be working all the time. How much, how often and what you charge are just a few of the variables. What constitutes an acceptable annual gross is a personal issue. In the end though, an SP can't call foul because they didn't allow for sick time. I don't see clients when I'm sick and I don't spend face time with clients who are sick.That is mutual respect.

And yes I may well be far removed from my mind but the comparison with STDs was simply to raise the issue of at what point is a communicable illness OK to transmit.
My opinion is zero tolerance for knowingly exposing myself to anyone with a communicable illness of any sort. I argue that anybody who can't wait a week is less sane than myself.
 
HafDun said:
My opinion is zero tolerance for knowingly exposing myself to anyone with a communicable illness of any sort.

I have to say though, that the way KWI approaches this is to me 100% the cool and proper way. If she warns guys in advance that she's got a cold, it is up to them, and I would imagine that most would be okay with it. Under most circumstances, i would be okay with it myself. It can actually be pretty sexy taking care of a cute girl with the sniffles under the right circumstances.
 
KWI said:
I like a good chicken noodle with salt and pepper and a biscut from Tim's. Just keep that in the back of your mind and I will let you know when I get the sniffles, lol. ;)

Oh and a nice hot tea. XL Bag out. 3 Milk. 2 1/2 sugar


Everything you said in your posts, I was ok with...until you said 2 1/2 sugar.