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Why are you unable to admit that some Palestinians commit acts of terror? Looks even worse on you when you keep accusing Israelis of terrorism.
That happened in post #163 and #161.

Please get yourself tested for dementia.

And just to remind you, since you can't seem remember anything.
You are the one that refuses to support both sides being held to the law, including all acts of terrorism, war crimes, apartheid and crimes against humanity.
So stop accusing me when its you that refuses to say that all acts of 'terrorism' by both sides should be investigated by the ICC.

Join me in calling for investigations and charges, the end of the occupation and the end of apartheid.
Until then neither side will stop the violence.
 

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That happened in post #163 and #161.
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Where you used the qualifier of quotation marks saying you don't believe they are really terrorists, just like you have always done.

Hamas is a terrorist entity. PFLP is a terrorist entity. PIJ is a terrorist entity.

If you think Jewish youth throwing rocks and firebombs at Palestinians civilians for political motives to be terrorism then consistent morals would mean you either need to define Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians as terrorism or be once again exposed for the double-standards indicated in Canada's definition of anti-semitism.


It's also amazing that you think I'm the one not wanting to hold both sides accountable as you continually deny the Palestinian leadership has done anything wrong.
 

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Until then neither side will stop the violence.
Hamas has been clear that they will not stop the 'resistance' until the "Zionist presence" is gone. They have no interest in equal rights.

That and only 6% of Palestinians prefer the One State Peace your western elitism wants to force them into against their will.
 

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Where you used the qualifier of quotation marks saying you don't believe they are really terrorists, just like you have always done.

Hamas is a terrorist entity. PFLP is a terrorist entity. PIJ is a terrorist entity.
I use the quotation marks because 'terrorism' is a political term used to justify war crimes. Countries all over accuse people of 'terrorism' so that they can assassinate and torture people and avoid the rule of law.
The US does it, Putin does it and so does Israel.

Hamas has committed terrorism but is doing so less often while Israel is now committing way more acts of terrorism. Including targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure in Gaza this year as well as using the IDF to back up settler terrorist attacks on Palestinian civilians to the point of 450 document attacks over the last two years. That's way, way more than Hamas. And that's why you refuse to join my call to hold both sides to the rule of the law. Because you know Israel are now the bigger sources of 'terrorism'.

Hamas has been clear that they will not stop the 'resistance' until the "Zionist presence" is gone. They have no interest in equal rights.

That and only 6% of Palestinians prefer the One State Peace your western elitism wants to force them into against their will.
Right now Israel is apartheid and its the one state, apartheid solution.
There is no chance left for the two state solution.
You can't articulate a peaceful solution and your only suggestions are that Palestinians bend over and take it.
The one state solution is what will happen when sanctions force Israel to end apartheid.
Same way apartheid was ended in South Africa.
 

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I use the quotation marks because 'terrorism' is a political term used to justify war crimes. ...
Except you only use quotation marks when describing terrorism from Palestinians. You seem to have absolutely no reservations about accusing Israel of terrorism.

Most recent Hamas terror attack was Nov. 21 when a senior Hamas member opened fire on a tour group in near the Western Wall, killing the guide.


And I love how you are still trying to deny the democratic will of Palestinians and Israelis by making up asinine accusations. You keep talking about supporting the UN but instead of accepting their view that a Two State peace is the only way forward, you insist on something Palestinians hate and you refuse to criticize the vast majority of Palestinians who reject your elitist solution.

And no, I can't articulate a peaceful solution until the Palestinian leadership accept a peaceful solution. There is no way for Israel to impose a peace deal on groups like Hamas until the Palestinian people find leaders who are actually interested in peace. As you're talking about peace, how do you feel about the 50% of Palestinians who support armed resistance as a solution?

If the Palestinian people wanted a One State peace then I would happily support it. Right now though, 74% of them oppose the idea so it's a complete non-starter. 59% oppose a Two State peace but that's a lot closer. It also suggests that the preferred Palestinian solution is the elimination of Israel and the "Zionist presence" like the terror group Hamas openly advocates and something that should be condemned.
 

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Most recent Hamas terror attack was Nov. 21 when a senior Hamas member opened fire on a tour group in near the Western Wall, killing the guide.
Since that attack there have been multiple 'terrorist' attacks by settlers, backed up the IDF.
You list this one attack and ignore all attacks by Israelis.
That shows that you not interested in stopping terrorism, you are more interested in demonizing Palestinians.
Join me in calling for both sides to end attacks and for the ICC to hold both sides to the law.
That's the way to stop terrorism on both sides.

And no, I can't articulate a peaceful solution until the Palestinian leadership accept a peaceful solution.
Its a military occupation, its not up to the victims of the occupation its up to the military rulers to decide when to end their illegal occupation.
Instead of a peaceful solution Israel is still actively colonizing what could have been Palestine.

If the Palestinian people wanted a One State peace then I would happily support it. Right now though, 74% of them oppose the idea so it's a complete non-starter. 59% oppose a Two State peace but that's a lot closer. It also suggests that the preferred Palestinian solution is the elimination of Israel and the "Zionist presence" like the terror group Hamas openly advocates and something that should be condemned.
The two state solution is dead, as you stated, you can't articulate a way forward with the two state solution. Because there are too many illegal settlements.
Which means that boycotts will have to be the solution, the way to end apartheid as it was ended in South Africa.

Support a call to end apartheid.
If you are against racism you need to take a stand against apartheid.
 

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Since that attack there have been multiple 'terrorist' attacks by settlers, backed up the IDF.
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And there have been multiple similar attacks by Palestinians on random Jews and public transit. Again, you keep say Israel are terrorists while claiming it is unfair and racist to call out incidents of terrorism from Palestinians. Truly you are running a masters class in how to fit Canada's definition of antisemitism.

The Two State peace is the only option, endorsed by the UN and Canada and is supported by far more Palestinians than support your colonial imposition. Of course that won't happen until there is Palestinian leadership willing to accept the concept of peace alongside Jews, something that Hamas is clear they won't do.

And keep on pushing your non-democratic, elitist views you want to impose while promoting a boycott that Canada says is counterproductive and often a front for antisemitsim.
 

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And there have been multiple similar attacks by Palestinians on random Jews and public transit. Again, you keep say Israel are terrorists while claiming it is unfair and racist to call out incidents of terrorism from Palestinians. Truly you are running a masters class in how to fit Canada's definition of antisemitism.

The Two State peace is the only option, endorsed by the UN and Canada and is supported by far more Palestinians than support your colonial imposition. Of course that won't happen until there is Palestinian leadership willing to accept the concept of peace alongside Jews, something that Hamas is clear they won't do.

And keep on pushing your non-democratic, elitist views you want to impose while promoting a boycott that Canada says is counterproductive and often a front for antisemitsim.
450 attacks on Palestinians by Israel settlers backed by the IDF.
Attacks on Gaza, including destroying civilian apartment buildings, hospitals and schools and media outlets.

Join me in calling for the ICC to come in and charge both sides.
If you think Palestinians are the only ones committing war crimes here you have nothing to fear by calling for investigations.

So why won't you join a call for investigations and charges?
 

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Why won't you even admit that there are some Palestinians committing terrorism? It makes your 'both sides' claims transparently bullshit.
There are some Palestinians committing terrorism but why won't you admit that Palestinians have committed way less than the 450 terrorist attacks by settlers alone?
Why do you refuse to condemn these acts by settlers and by the government if you are really against terrorism?

Why won't you join me in calling for both sides to be held to the law equally by the ICC?
 

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There are some Palestinians committing terrorism but why won't you admit that Palestinians have committed way less than the 450 terrorist attacks by settlers alone?
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Because they haven't.

Palestinian terrorism similar to what you agree is settler terrorism is as regular occurrence. Stone and molotov throwing by Palestinian youth is such a daily occurrence that it only makes North American news when they kill someone.

And still you refuse to ascribe the term terrorism to people simply because you see them as on 'your' side.

 

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Because they haven't.

Palestinian terrorism similar to what you agree is settler terrorism is as regular occurrence. Stone and molotov throwing by Palestinian youth is such a daily occurrence that it only makes North American news when they kill someone.

And still you refuse to ascribe the term terrorism to people simply because you see them as on 'your' side.

You went back to 2015? While I posted a link showing 450 attacks in the last two years?

You also posted a few articles about an episode in Dec posting about a few incidents of Palestinians throwing rocks without noting that during that time multiple mobs of settlers also stormed and attacked Palestinian villages. Once again, the examples you posted only highlight how you minimize or ignore settler attacks on Palestinians.

Check the stats from the Israeli B'tselem, they keep track of violence from both sides.
And they show that most of the terrorism is coming from Israel and the settlers.

The violence is coming from the apartheid occupation.
End apartheid.
End the occupation.
 

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Because they haven't.

Palestinian terrorism similar to what you agree is settler terrorism is as regular occurrence. Stone and molotov throwing by Palestinian youth is such a daily occurrence that it only makes North American news when they kill someone.

And still you refuse to ascribe the term terrorism to people simply because you see them as on 'your' side.

Just read the news this morning.
So instead of going back to 2015 or last year, here's todays reports:


That's the news from one day. Including the implementation of another racist, apartheid law.
 

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Just read the news this morning.
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So another excuse to ignore regular Palestinian attacks that you would describe as terrorism if Jews were doing it.

p.s. Love the spin of your tweet. Reality is the courts determined that certain Jews had legal ownership of properties and violence and threats from both sides erupted as they were moving in. Just like that media refers to settler raids on Al Aqsa when Jewish members of approved tour groups visit.
 

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... Once again, the examples you posted only highlight how you minimize or ignore settler attacks on Palestinians.
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Funny how you suddenly pretend you care about both sides being shown after years worth of ridiculous one-sided propaganda. You gave examples of Israeli Jews committing acts that we agree is low level terror all the while refusing to admit that the exact same kinds of acts are regularly committed by Palestinians.
 

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So another excuse to ignore regular Palestinian attacks that you would describe as terrorism if Jews were doing it.

p.s. Love the spin of your tweet. Reality is the courts determined that certain Jews had legal ownership of properties and violence and threats from both sides erupted as they were moving in. Just like that media refers to settler raids on Al Aqsa when Jewish members of approved tour groups visit.
Feel free to show the news from the Israeli point of view for yesterday and we'll see where most of the attacks are coming from.
Are you really against the violence or just against Palestinians and Palestinian rights?

Funny how you suddenly pretend you care about both sides being shown after years worth of ridiculous one-sided propaganda. You gave examples of Israeli Jews committing acts that we agree is low level terror all the while refusing to admit that the exact same kinds of acts are regularly committed by Palestinians.
Ah, so now there is 'low level terror' vs 'Palestinian terror'.
More apartheid.

Mobs attacking villages with the IDF backing them up you seem to define now as 'low level terror' attacks but Palestinian kids throwing rocks is just full on 'terrorism'.
Sounds like different rules based on race again, what's the name for that?
Oh yeah, apartheid.

But hey, Israel says Defence for Children International is terrorism as well, so its not too surprising.
 

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Feel free to show the news from the Israeli point of view for yesterday and we'll see where most of the attacks are coming from.
Are you really against the violence or just against Palestinians and Palestinian rights?



Ah, so now there is 'low level terror' vs 'Palestinian terror'.
More apartheid.

Mobs attacking villages with the IDF backing them up you seem to define now as 'low level terror' attacks but Palestinian kids throwing rocks is just full on 'terrorism'.
Sounds like different rules based on race again, what's the name for that?
Oh yeah, apartheid.

But hey, Israel says Defence for Children International is terrorism as well, so its not too surprising.
Your spamming of idiocy is funny. But whatever you need to tell yourself to justify your ridiculous double-standard. Why are you incapable of criticizing Palestinians doing the same things as the violent faction of settlers? Is it because you approve of anything that harms Israel or is it because Palestinians are too far beneath you to criticize?


p.s. Yes, Setters or Palestinians throwing rocks for racist reasons is low level terror. Hamas gunmen shooting up a tour group or lobbing rockets at cities is higher-level terrorism.
 

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Your spamming of idiocy is funny. But whatever you need to tell yourself to justify your ridiculous double-standard. Why are you incapable of criticizing Palestinians doing the same things as the violent faction of settlers? Is it because you approve of anything that harms Israel or is it because Palestinians are too far beneath you to criticize?
When Palestinians throw rocks at settlers they aren't backed by the IDF.
Palestinians don't have guns for the most part, like settlers use in their attacks as well.
Settlers attack with the backing of the occupation army.

They aren't doing the same thing.


 

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When Palestinians throw rocks at settlers they aren't backed by the IDF.
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So in your mind, the act of committing political violence isn't terrorism? Thanks for showing another way to excuse terrorism from Palestinian people.

And sorry but plenty of Palestinians have guns. Have you heard of this group called Hamas who recently had a senior member shoot up a tour group?
 

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So in your mind, the act of committing political violence isn't terrorism? Thanks for showing another way to excuse terrorism from Palestinian people.

And sorry but plenty of Palestinians have guns. Have you heard of this group called Hamas who recently had a senior member shoot up a tour group?
State backed 'terrorism' is just one more level worse, basketcase.
Again, there were 450 cases of state backed acts you have labelled as 'terrorism' over the last 2 years.

Why do you excuse these acts and focus only on the much smaller amount of attacks by Palestinians?
Why do you support this settler colonialism?

Why do you refuse to support investigations into both sides if you are so sure of Israeli innocence?
 
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