CNN: Russia producing 3x the number of shells of Europe and USA combined.

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Lol the Russian withdrawal from Khakov was a sstrategic withdrawal. The AFU was given the order to withdraw when they were already a fleeing rabble. Lots of vis of troops running on foot. Getting picked off by drones and arty
Was that the strategic Russian withdrawal where they strategically left thousands of tanks, APC, artillery guns, ammunition etc?

I guess the Master Russian Strategist wanted to provide Ukraine with more tanks, ammunition etc than the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED to showcase the effectiveness of the Russian arms industry?!? 🤡
 

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The sad part is that the gop has always been in favour of a sting defence and vet Russia containment. Then they got tir new order from the stable genius and did a 180. Amazing but not surprising from the guy and party who no longer feels bound by article 5 of the nato treaty.
The US spends almost 900B a year on defence and NATO was defeated by the Taliban and they can't do F all to stop the Houthis. They are literally pounding sand.
 

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The US spends almost 900B a year on defence and NATO was defeated by the Taliban and they can't do F all to stop the Houthis. They are literally pounding sand.
you are a good soldier for the Putin apologist.. I assume you have alomade s reservation at the trump international Moscow.
 
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you are a good soldier for the Putin apologist.. I assume you have alomade s reservation at the trump international Moscow.
KGB liaison officer has already given Nottsky extra bottle of vodka, 3 meal vouchers for Workers' Cafeteria "extra special kolbassa and borscht luncheon" and $25 bonus for Best Propaganda Work.
 

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KGB liaison officer has already given Nottsky extra bottle of vodka, 3 meal vouchers for Workers' Cafeteria "extra special kolbassa and borscht luncheon" and $25 bonus for Best Propaganda Work.
Except he is doing a really, and I mean really, shitty job of it.

Just like Russian meat soldiers, he is nothing more than a stooge that has bought the propaganda.

He is clearly not some official sleeper <giggle> intelligence <giggle> operative. He has been an all-subject kooky krackpot on TERB for a long time. Blackrock13 among other previous abandoned or banned handles. Same self-delusioned know-it-all. But for several non-obvious reasons I do feel he is an ethnic Russian living here in Canada but with cultural and family ties to the Motherland.

Ever notice how anti-Ukrainian types fall into two clearly different mindsets?

1, Those who parrot "Russia Stronk" propaganda... and following the same timeline narrative as the Russian world?

2.. Those who parrot the MAGA / Western strongman idolatry talking points... again a day or two after that cult feeds the hypnotic 'truth' to their followers? FFS, they have Americans not only sympathizing with Russia,... but outright supporting them.


Both think they are 'free thinkers' yet their messages invariably parrot either Russian propaganda or strongman cult indoctrination.

 

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Was that the strategic Russian withdrawal where they strategically left thousands of tanks, APC, artillery guns, ammunition etc?

I guess the Master Russian Strategist wanted to provide Ukraine with more tanks, ammunition etc than the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED to showcase the effectiveness of the Russian arms industry?!? 🤡
@nottyboi Answer me this? What was the strategy behind giving all this equipment to Ukraine? And also, Russia being Ukraine's de facto largest arms supplier since the war began... is he going to nuke Russia too?

Kharkhiv as of September 9, 2022

Trophy tanks:
T-72 - a total of 204 units as of 09/09/2022):
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T-72A — 14 units on 09.09.2022
T-72AB — 3 units on 06/09/2022
T-72B — 52 units on 09.09.2022
T-72B zr. 1989 — 19 units on 09.09.2022
T-72BA — 4 units on 09.09.2022
T-72B3 — 48 units on 09.09.2022
T-72B3M — 64 units on 09.09.2022
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T-64BV — 5 units on 09.09.2022
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T-80 (78 units as of 09/09/2022):[8]
T-80BV(K) — 24 units on 09.09.2022
T-80BVM — 17 units on 09.09.2022
T-80UK — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
T-80U — 32 units on 09.09.2022
T-80UE-1 — 4 units on 09.09.2022
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T-90A — 8 units on 06/09/2022
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Trophy self-propelled guns:
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2C19 "Msta-S" — 23 units on 06/09/2022
2C33 "Msta-SM2" — 3 units on 06/09/2022
2C3 "Acacia" - 11 units on 06/09/2022.
2C1 with ZU-23 anti-aircraft gun — 1 unit on 06/09/2022.
2C1 "Gvozdika" - 4 units on 06/09/2022.
2C23 "Nona-SVK" and 2C9 "Nona" — 5 units on 06/09/2022
2C34 "Hosta" - 2 units on 09.09.2022
TOS-1A "Solntsepek" — 4 units on 09.09.2022.
ТЗМ-Т — 4 units on 09.09.2022
In addition, the Ukrainian army captured the following armored personnel carriers and other armored vehicles as trophies:
Trophy armored vehicles:
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BMP-1(P) — 46 units on 09.09.2022
BMP-2 — 89 units on 09.09.2022
BMP-3 — 49 units on 09.09.2022
BMD-2 — 36 units on 06/09/2022
1B13M — 6 units on 09.09.2022
1B14 — 4 units on 09.09.2022
BTR-80 — 34 units on 09.09.2022
MT-LB — 56 units on 09.09.2022
MT-LBVM and MT-LBVMK — 56 units on 09.09.2022
MT-LB-6MB — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
MT-LBu — 5 units on 09.09.2022
MT-LB — 56 units on 09.09.2022
BTR-82A — 65 units on 09.09.2022
BTR-MD "Rakushka" — 6 units on 09.06.2022
Tiger — 2 units on 09.09.2022.
Tigr-M — 26 units on 09.09.2022.
BMM "Linza" — 3 units on 06/09/2022
KamAZ-53949 "Typhoon-K" — 2 units on 09.09.2022
KAMAZ-63968 "Typhoon" — 4 units on 09.09.2022.
ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" — 3 units on 09.09.2022
And also 42 units of trophy reconnaissance and control vehicles - R-149MA1, R-149MA3, 1B119 "Rheostat" and others.
R-934BMV - obstacle station of the Borysoglebsk-2 complex — 1 unit on 09.09.2022.
SNAR-10M1 — counter-battery radar - 1 unit on 16.05.2022.
1RL257 "Krasukha-4" command post — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
Radar 1L261 — counter-battery radar - 1 unit on 09.09.2022
BREM-1 — engineering system - 9 units on 09.09.2022
TMM-3 — heavy mechanized bridge - 15 units on 09.09.2022
PMP — pontoon-bridge park - 6 units on 09.09.2022
MTU-72 — tank bridgelayer - 1 unit on 09.09.2022
- and a number of other engineering armored vehicles
Trophy anti-aircraft missile complexes:
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Armor-S1 — 3 units on 09.09.2022
IED 9A317 "Buk-M2" — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
PZM 9A316 "Buk-M2" — 3 units on 09.09.2022
IED 9A330 "Thor" — 6 units on 09.09.2022
IED 9A331 "Tor-M1" — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
IED 9A331M "Tor-M2" — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
9K33 Osa- 2 units on 09.09.2022
ТЗМ 9Т217Б — 1 unit on 09.09.2022
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This does not include a large amount of trophy Russian armored vehicles captured by the Ukrainian army in the Kharkiv direction after September 9, 2022
 

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Agreed!


I listened to some of this podcast but found more wisdom in the comments. Where a broad range of people can contribute their experience, insight and therefore...wisdom.

The host is like the loudmouth, know-it-all you hear at a table at a restaurant.. This guy Norm thinks he can transfer his jewish knowledge of Israel to Russia/Ukraine. As an aside, I wonder why some of my jewish friends support Russia? 🤷‍♂️ About the only reason they give is that Ukraine was involved in the Holocaust back in WW2.


Here are some: (My comments in italics)

- Starts by calling it The Ukraine...oh boy, still have 20+ minutes to go. (This just illustrates how out of touch the host is!)


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Common people don't care about the missiles somewhere - they want to live, they have enough things to do and don't need wars.

People have not much influence on their government here in Russia.

Why did the government decide to seize Crimea, destabilize other regions and start the war - you don't know, neither do I. One thing I know - they are bad dishonest people who follow ___their own interests___.

Maybe they wanted to make Vladimir Putin a hero who saved Russian people in Ukraine and reunited the territory - to uphold his rating - this could be one of the reasons. Some people love little victorious wars

My option would be to act peacefully and humane as this would weaken the reason for NATO to exist, undermine its funding. What we've got - NATO in Finland, even greater hostility to Russia in Ukraine, risks of the global war, militarizing of Germany, maybe even Russian language and culture will be less popular. And following your logic, Ukrainians should be opposed to joining NATO too. Russia had no right to attack Ukraine and what you're saying is just an excuse. Both Vladimir and Benjamin say that the territory they attack shouldn't exist. These wars are quite similar, no need to chose a better evil



- The Russians invaded Crimea in 2011, 3 years before the referendum, that's illegal. Zelensky wasn't elected until 2019, had nothing to do with it. you can see a photo on google maps from 2011 of ships using southeast Crimea as a makeshift dock , years before the Crimean Bridge was built. i have never seen mention of this anywhere but, the image doesn't lie, just a public google maps photo. Putin probably in cahoots with the current leader at the time.

-I didn't expect to so abruptly lose respect for him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Like Meersheimer, he's accepting the ludicrous premise that Moscow has a right to determine Ukraine's independence. We can ask any Ukrainian what they think about THAT. Russian leaders continue to think of Europe in terms of a game among 'great' powers: so that the status of European nations should be negotiated not by them but by Russia and the US. Well, anyway, a violation of another nation's sovereignty is illegal by international law, and Russia, too had accepted that current international borders


FUCK THIS GUY IS AN IRRITATING ASSHOLE... I can't keep listening to his blathering in the backgroudn.
 

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Agreed!


I listened to some of this podcast but found more wisdom in the comments. Where a broad range of people can contribute their experience, insight and therefore...wisdom.

The host is like the loudmouth, know-it-all you hear at a table at a restaurant.. This guy Norm thinks he can transfer his jewish knowledge of Israel to Russia/Ukraine. As an aside, I wonder why some of my jewish friends support Russia? 🤷‍♂️ About the only reason they give is that Ukraine was involved in the Holocaust back in WW2.


Here are some: (My comments in italics)

- Starts by calling it The Ukraine...oh boy, still have 20+ minutes to go. (This just illustrates how out of touch the host is!)


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Common people don't care about the missiles somewhere - they want to live, they have enough things to do and don't need wars.

People have not much influence on their government here in Russia.

Why did the government decide to seize Crimea, destabilize other regions and start the war - you don't know, neither do I. One thing I know - they are bad dishonest people who follow ___their own interests___.

Maybe they wanted to make Vladimir Putin a hero who saved Russian people in Ukraine and reunited the territory - to uphold his rating - this could be one of the reasons. Some people love little victorious wars

My option would be to act peacefully and humane as this would weaken the reason for NATO to exist, undermine its funding. What we've got - NATO in Finland, even greater hostility to Russia in Ukraine, risks of the global war, militarizing of Germany, maybe even Russian language and culture will be less popular. And following your logic, Ukrainians should be opposed to joining NATO too. Russia had no right to attack Ukraine and what you're saying is just an excuse. Both Vladimir and Benjamin say that the territory they attack shouldn't exist. These wars are quite similar, no need to chose a better evil



- The Russians invaded Crimea in 2011, 3 years before the referendum, that's illegal. Zelensky wasn't elected until 2019, had nothing to do with it. you can see a photo on google maps from 2011 of ships using southeast Crimea as a makeshift dock , years before the Crimean Bridge was built. i have never seen mention of this anywhere but, the image doesn't lie, just a public google maps photo. Putin probably in cahoots with the current leader at the time.

-I didn't expect to so abruptly lose respect for him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Like Meersheimer, he's accepting the ludicrous premise that Moscow has a right to determine Ukraine's independence. We can ask any Ukrainian what they think about THAT. Russian leaders continue to think of Europe in terms of a game among 'great' powers: so that the status of European nations should be negotiated not by them but by Russia and the US. Well, anyway, a violation of another nation's sovereignty is illegal by international law, and Russia, too had accepted that current international borders


FUCK THIS GUY IS AN IRRITATING ASSHOLE... I can't keep listening to his blathering in the backgroudn.
Sounds like this one is sneaky Kremtroll also. But already at beginning, you can smell the borscht from podcast and want to turn shit off because stink like once-yummy roasted dog sausage that is kept too long in box under uncle's bed out by back door of dacha.
 

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Sounds like this one is sneaky Kremtroll also. But already at beginning, you can smell the borscht from podcast and want to turn shit off because stink like once-yummy roasted dog sausage that is kept too long in box under uncle's bed out by back door of dacha.
Maybe. 🤷‍♂️

But he can also just be a typical loudmouth know-it-all with an irritating voice and words he can't even hear. I get it that he is expressing his opinion, and respect everyone's right to do so. But he is convinced it is all facts.

But I feel your visceral description in the back of my throat. Sounds more like addict2sex-ski's luxurious outdoor plumbing in his no-plumbing indoor Russki Mir House! (y)
 
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Was that the strategic Russian withdrawal where they strategically left thousands of tanks, APC, artillery guns, ammunition etc?

I guess the Master Russian Strategist wanted to provide Ukraine with more tanks, ammunition etc than the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED to showcase the effectiveness of the Russian arms industry?!? 🤡
Both sides have capture tanks, but there have been very few vids of captured Russian tanks, T-72's are operated by both sides, but any Ukrainian T-90 would be captured. Not seen many of these at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_the_Ukrainian_Army Wiki indicates very little evidence of captured Russian tanks. Also captured vehicles from Russia are of little use anyways as all combat vehicles need a steady stream of parts and repair during combat ops. Even Wiki (Pro NAFO) states at most 100 tanks and about 100-150 armoured vehicles.
 

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Both sides have capture tanks, but there have been very few vids of captured Russian tanks, T-72's are operated by both sides, but any Ukrainian T-90 would be captured. Not seen many of these at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_the_Ukrainian_Army Wiki indicates very little evidence of captured Russian tanks. Also captured vehicles from Russia are of little use anyways as all combat vehicles need a steady stream of parts and repair during combat ops. Even Wiki (Pro NAFO) states at most 100 tanks and about 100-150 armoured vehicles.
Check out the brain on Schnottski!

Did you see a sign that said, "Dead Russian tank storage" outside?
 
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Putin lost the war when he couldn't hold Kharkiv, now he's only bleeding Russia's youth in a war of attrition. Kharkiv is a strategic stronghold, that's where Hitler got his nose busted.

Someone should put purga in Putin's Chicken Kyiv, nothing like horse laxative to take away your arrogance.

Happy St Patrick's Day.

 
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Both sides have capture tanks, but there have been very few vids of captured Russian tanks, T-72's are operated by both sides, but any Ukrainian T-90 would be captured. Not seen many of these at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_the_Ukrainian_Army Wiki indicates very little evidence of captured Russian tanks. Also captured vehicles from Russia are of little use anyways as all combat vehicles need a steady stream of parts and repair during combat ops. Even Wiki (Pro NAFO) states at most 100 tanks and about 100-150 armoured vehicles.

Whatever. 🤷‍♂️

Even when you are trying to be civil, you are still trying to sell bullshit.

Look... if we look at things as you say (in this post) nobody can say or believe anything unless they were there personally and saw every single tank etc. And even then, you try to bluster your way through and dismiss whatever doesn't agree with whatever you;ve been fed that day.

I will agree with you on at least one thing. Ukraine is losing the war right now. Without continued US supply of ammunition, Russia will eventually run over the Ukrainians. The narcissist Trump is giving the United States the same reputation as Trump. An unreliable partner who breaks their promises. Not that he gives a fuck for the US or anyone except himself.

But Ukrainians are going to fuck up Russia, deeply, and for a loooooong time before and after they lose. For some reason I think that General Budanov is going to get increasingly imaginitive in his own 'special military operations' More model airplanes bypassing the joke of Russian homeland defences and knocking out more oil refinery fractionation towers. More Ukrainian "Admirial Jettskyy" destroyers adding to the Russian Submarine Fleet, busting the Kerch Bridge etc etc And just more embarrassment and exposure of Russia as the fucked up country it has become. Again.

This three day special military operation sure was a good decision by Putin and the Russians supporting him!

At least your boy Vladimir Vladimirich won the election! 🏆 The only possible loser in that election are the Russian people.
 
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