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Civil Servants Are Not America’s Enemies Trump wants to bring back the spoils system of the 19th century

Valcazar

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He fired 80 percent of Twitters staff. Last I checked, it's still running. How does that happen? One person is doing the job that five people did before?
No, it's just wildly less valuable than it was before and has had repeated technical fuck ups.
He gutted the company value for ideological reasons.
Of course, part of that is because he didn't want a social media company, he wanted a propaganda machine, and those are much cheaper to run.
 

PeterParker1000

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Have you ever met a US civil servant. They are lazy bums who want easy jobs and a guaranteed pension so they don’t have to save for retirement. I’ve met many. Outside of my relative who is a DA, they are all working 10 hours a week.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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No, it's just wildly less valuable than it was before and has had repeated technical fuck ups.
He gutted the company value for ideological reasons.
Of course, part of that is because he didn't want a social media company, he wanted a propaganda machine, and those are much cheaper to run.
His tactic is also to have a very small team because those are easier to control and dictate to.
It is the same approach he is taking to government.
Under the guise of cutting wasteful spending he could be targeting all the departments that challenge(d) his business practices.
 
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richaceg

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Only a total rube would think someone convicted of fraud and felony is going to clean up the government.
You'd rather have someone who spent 2 billion and still lose an election? Democrats don't do shit and have left media cover their tracks....aren't uou happy Trump is turning Gaza into a riviera so palesrinians will have a nice place to live?
 
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Valcazar

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His tactic is also to have a very small team because those are easier to control and dictate to.
It is the same approach he is taking to government.
Under the guise of cutting wasteful spending he could be targeting all the departments that challenge(d) his business practices.
It's just RAGE implemented under another name.


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JohnLarue

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Not at all.
His history implies he is far more corrupt.
because you say so ?
cancel culture wont work here

it does not address the fundamental problem
Where is the money ?

shrinking government was a campaign promise and the electorate provided the mandate
are you 100% sure defending systematic government waste and corruption is the right hill to die on ?

you need to pick battles you can win
 
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Valcazar

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because you say so ?
cancel culture wont work here
Based on years of him being a known public figure.
Also, Musk hasn't been cancelled, he is one of the most powerful people in government.

it does not address the fundamental problem
Where is the money ?
Why do you think money is missing?
DOGE hasn't presented any evidence of missing money.

shrinking government was a campaign promise and the electorate provided the mandate


No argument.
I'm objecting to the illegal, unconstitutional actions.
Shrinking government and changing policy priorities is normal government behavior that can be conducted by aboveboard means.

are you 100% sure defending systematic government waste and corruption is the right hill to die on ?
Why are you mistaking illegal power seizure by the executive as fighting against corruption?

you need to pick battles you can win
No.
Sometimes you fight battles you expect to lose because they are worth fighting.
Autocratic tyranny and the immense media power backing up their propaganda is very likely something we won't be able to beat, but it is worth fighting anyway.
 

southpaw

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They are lazy bums who want easy jobs and a guaranteed pension so they don’t have to save for retirement.
shrinking government was a campaign promise and the electorate provided the mandate
I'm always amazed by people who stick up for taxpayers and call out government waste, except when it comes to Israel. Then it's shut up and give the money.
 

JohnLarue

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Based on years of him being a known public figure.
he is one of the most powerful people in government.
no he is an appointed civil servant

Also, Musk hasn't been cancelled,
Failing attempts at cancel culture does not make it right
What is wrong with you?


odd how you gave Gerald Butts a free ride in Canada and he was the one directing money movements
all Musk is doing is auditing the money movements

scratch a loonie left and you will always find hypocrisy under their virtue signalling


Why do you think money is missing?
DOGE hasn't presented any evidence of missing money.
its called a deficit

any money disbursed without a logical defendable rational is missing money
where is the money ?

No argument.
I'm objecting to the illegal, unconstitutional actions.
Shrinking government and changing policy priorities is normal government behavior that can be conducted by aboveboard means.
an audit is certainly a widely accepted risk management tool

Why are you mistaking illegal power seizure by the executive as fighting against corruption?
why are you protecting the abuse of the tax payer via waste and corruption ?


No.
Sometimes you fight battles you expect to lose because they are worth fighting.
Autocratic tyranny and the immense media power backing up their propaganda is very likely something we won't be able to beat, but it is worth fighting anyway.
what part of 'shrinking government was a campaign promise and the electorate provided the mandate ''are you struggling with ?

you need to take a step back and realise you are constantly fighting battles that are not supported by the people

for someone who thinks he is playing constitutional expert you seem oblivious to the importance of the preamble
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America
there is no justice until the question of where is the money ? has been answered.

the people (as in We the People) want to know[
 
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JohnLarue

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I'm always amazed by people who stick up for taxpayers and call out government waste, except when it comes to Israel. Then it's shut up and give the money.
i am pretty sure i pointed out to you that cutting support for Israel has never been a hot button campaign issue over multiple election cycles since the formation of the Israeli state
certainly no president has ever asked for or been given that mandate

shrinking govt and reducing govt was a campaign promise.

who knows, maybe you will get the bloodbath / chaos in the middle east you seek if Ilhan Omar were to run for president
 

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You'd rather have someone who spent 2 billion and still lose an election? Democrats don't do shit and have left media cover their tracks....aren't uou happy Trump is turning Gaza into a riviera so palesrinians will have a nice place to live?
How are the price of eggs?
Think sending Israel another $7 billion will finally lower them?
 
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