cia refuses to open books on ufos

[escortsxxx]

Do you not know what the first amendment says because I have no clue how you think it fits in here.

We were talking about the hypothetical Option that the gov did not take for the Chinese weather ballon.


The US government would rather Have the Chinese guess as to what happened to their own ballon. Did the Americans detect it What would they do what did they what did they do. If the Americans Do anything publicly The Chinese gain information.

The default, the soft conspiracy, is just to take care of it just to take care of it Without telling anyone about it. No Wallace broken bitch.

When it become public knowledge This government had to decide whether to classify get or not. Or to illegally suppress the info. The latter is a hard core conspiracy.

Experts discuss these options In the media because they did not bother.

Another Hypothetical would be the secret canadian Bases up north. While the government Does not have them on maps End the police and what not will say they do not exist The locals see Jet fighters landing in Jet fighters landing in the "invisible" bases.

Or camp x Which was illegal to talk but High school kids Whitby Use the area as a place to hang out. No photos or Literature could be published about it. The place is not been used since world war 2.
Camp X, located in Whitby, Ontario, Canada, was officially declassified in the 1980s. The declassification allowed information about its activities during World War II, particularly its role as a secret spy training facility, to become more publicly known.


I'm not sure what the cover story was before that But any mention or Speculation of its actual purpose was stopped before then. It may not technically be A conspiracy theory because it's not illegal But it certainly appears that way to those being lied too.

Ps cmp x

1. Secret Spy Training: Camp X was a covert training facility during World War II, specializing in training spies, sabotage agents, and intelligence personnel for Allied forces.
2. Location: Situated near Whitby, Ontario, Canada, Camp X was selected due to its proximity to the United States and its secure, secluded location on the shore of Lake Ontario.
3. Establishment: The camp was established in December 1941, shortly after the United States entered World War II.
4. William Stephenson's Involvement: The camp's creation was largely due to the efforts of Sir William Stephenson, a British intelligence officer, often referred to as "Intrepid." He was instrumental in setting up Camp X and played a crucial role in espionage during the war. He used the concepts for his Bond series.
5. Spy Training Techniques: Camp X employed various training methods, including hand-to-hand combat, cryptography, weapons handling, intelligence gathering, and covert operations.
6. Wireless Communications Training: Specialized training in wireless communications was a significant aspect of the camp's curriculum, teaching agents how to transmit and receive coded messages.
7. Innovative Espionage Techniques: Camp X pioneered innovative espionage techniques, such as the development of microdots (photographs reduced to the size of a period), to smuggle information past enemy lines.
8. Contributions to D-Day: Agents trained at Camp X played a role in the success of D-Day by gathering intelligence and assisting with sabotage operations in Europe.
9. Camp Closure: Camp X was closed in 1944 after fulfilling its role in training agents for clandestine operations.
10. Legacy: Camp X's legacy remains significant in the history of espionage and intelligence training, serving as a precursor to modern intelligence agencies and techniques.

 

[DinkleMouse]

For 1 the CIA is not allowed to operate o American soil.

Yes it is.

The CIA's restriction is that it isn't allowed to gather foreign intelligence on the domestic activities of US citizens wherever they are located. That's it. There is nothing preventing them from operating on US soil, any they absolutely do.

The CIA is forbidden from gathering intelligence that a US citizen is paying their Indianapolis property taxes online while on vacation in Japan. That's a domestic activity of a US citizen.

The CIA is authorized to gather intelligence if they same person transfers money to a bank account in the Cayman islands online while sitting on their couch in Indianapolis. That's not a domestic activity anymore.

The CIA is authorized to gather intelligence on a British citizen buying souvenirs in Las Vegas because they are not a US citizen even if that is an activity that's "domestic" to the US.

You can't believe everything you hear in movies, tv shows and spy novels.

As for secret bases "up north" in Canada where fighter jets land and everyone denies it but people see it.... Can you be more specific? Where are these supposed bases? Can you link to any of these claims? Because I work in aviation, I follow aviation forums (including one literally dedicated to rumours), and I've never heard any of this.

I'll also point out that in the US, air traffic controllers are federal agents and get training in the handling of official and military secrets. In Canada they work for a civilian company and don't get any training on that. If military jets were descending below radar (or just disappearing from satellite view now that aviation surveillance is space-based) to places without airports, I'm pretty sure they'd be talking about it.

 

[basketcase]

We were talking about the hypothetical Option that the gov did not take for the Chinese weather ballon.


The US government would rather Have the Chinese guess as to what happened to their own ballon. Did the Americans detect it What would they do what did they what did they do. If the Americans Do anything publicly The Chinese gain information.

The default, the soft conspiracy, is just to take care of it just to take care of it Without telling anyone about it. No Wallace broken bitch.

When it become public knowledge This government had to decide whether to classify get or not. Or to illegally suppress the info. The latter is a hard core conspiracy.

Experts discuss these options In the media because they did not bother.

Another Hypothetical would be the secret canadian Bases up north. While the government Does not have them on maps End the police and what not will say they do not exist The locals see Jet fighters landing in Jet fighters landing in the "invisible" bases.

Or camp x Which was illegal to talk but High school kids Whitby Use the area as a place to hang out. No photos or Literature could be published about it. The place is not been used since world war 2.
Camp X, located in Whitby, Ontario, Canada, was officially declassified in the 1980s. The declassification allowed information about its activities during World War II, particularly its role as a secret spy training facility, to become more publicly known.


I'm not sure what the cover story was before that But any mention or Speculation of its actual purpose was stopped before then. It may not technically be A conspiracy theory because it's not illegal But it certainly appears that way to those being lied too.

Ps cmp x

1. Secret Spy Training: Camp X was a covert training facility during World War II, specializing in training spies, sabotage agents, and intelligence personnel for Allied forces.
2. Location: Situated near Whitby, Ontario, Canada, Camp X was selected due to its proximity to the United States and its secure, secluded location on the shore of Lake Ontario.
3. Establishment: The camp was established in December 1941, shortly after the United States entered World War II.
4. William Stephenson's Involvement: The camp's creation was largely due to the efforts of Sir William Stephenson, a British intelligence officer, often referred to as "Intrepid." He was instrumental in setting up Camp X and played a crucial role in espionage during the war. He used the concepts for his Bond series.
5. Spy Training Techniques: Camp X employed various training methods, including hand-to-hand combat, cryptography, weapons handling, intelligence gathering, and covert operations.
6. Wireless Communications Training: Specialized training in wireless communications was a significant aspect of the camp's curriculum, teaching agents how to transmit and receive coded messages.
7. Innovative Espionage Techniques: Camp X pioneered innovative espionage techniques, such as the development of microdots (photographs reduced to the size of a period), to smuggle information past enemy lines.
8. Contributions to D-Day: Agents trained at Camp X played a role in the success of D-Day by gathering intelligence and assisting with sabotage operations in Europe.
9. Camp Closure: Camp X was closed in 1944 after fulfilling its role in training agents for clandestine operations.
10. Legacy: Camp X's legacy remains significant in the history of espionage and intelligence training, serving as a precursor to modern intelligence agencies and techniques.

Thank you for proving you have no clue about the 1st.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What exactly does the US or Canadian government keeping secrets for security reason have to do with that? Or is that yet another conspiracy theory?

 

[escortsxxx]

Thank you for proving you have no clue about the 1st.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What exactly does the US or Canadian government keeping secrets for security reason have to do with that? Or is that yet another conspiracy theory?

You're joking right?

 

[Frankfooter]

Thank you for proving you have no clue about the 1st.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What exactly does the US or Canadian government keeping secrets for security reason have to do with that? Or is that yet another conspiracy theory?

So you must think this new bill contravenes the 1st.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732309742867869732

 

[basketcase]

So you must think this new bill contravenes the 1st.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732309742867869732

No, I think your Jew obsession is your right. It's pathetic but it's your right.

And despite your histrionics, they are not making a law saying you can't be an anti-semite.

 

[basketcase]

You're joking right?

Have you never heard what the first amendment says because it has nothing to do with governments keeping sensitive information secret.

 

[Frankfooter]

No, I think your Jew obsession is your right. It's pathetic but it's your right.

And despite your histrionics, they are not making a law saying you can't be an anti-semite.

No, its just a law that brands 1/4 of US Jews as antisemitic.

 

[basketcase]

No, its just a law that brands 1/4 of US Jews as antisemitic.

Thanks for admitting you just jumped into a thread on UFOs to make false claims about Jews.

But I guess it makes sense because you and space laser lady share views about Jewish control.

 

[op12]

It is unlikely that there is any secret info on UFOs. The USA is only 1 country of roughly 200 and only about 6% of this planet's land area. If UFOs were visiting and occasionally crashing then other countries would have some interesting artifacts as well.

Also all human high tech stuff has a clear 'organic' pedigree. There is a natural trail of hypothesis to theory to engineering to manufacturing to product. Then improvement tweaks occur solely.

If UFOs were a thing, and reverse engineered, there would be amazing tech suddenly popping out of nowhere.

Finally we have cell phone cams, dash cams, security cams, civilian aircraft and civilian radar everywhere now. It's not like in the '50's anymore. If UFOs were real Russian dash cam videos of the craft would all over the internet

If anti-gravity tech pops up out of nowhere from some defense corporation then I might change my mind.

 

[escortsxxx]

Have you never heard what the first amendment says because it has nothing to do with governments keeping sensitive information secret.

You apparently do not know the supreme court. This is a major issue .. Restriction of speech By the government is what the amendment is all about.


The Pentagon Papers case is a significant historical event that intersects with the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, particularly the protection of freedom of the press.

In 1971, the New York Times and Washington Post published a series of articles based on the Pentagon Papers, a classified government report detailing the U.S. involvement in Vietnam from 1945 to 1967. The Nixon administration sought to prevent further publication, arguing national security concerns.

The connection to the First Amendment lies in the legal battle that ensued. The U.S. Supreme Court, in the case of New York Times Co. v. United States, ruled in favor of the newspapers, affirming the right of the press to publish information, even if it is classified, unless there is a clear and present danger to national security.

This case underscores the importance of the First Amendment's protection of freedom of the press in allowing the media to serve as a check on government actions. It established a precedent for the press's right to publish information in the public interest, even when the government seeks to keep it classified.


Check and mate.

 

[Frankfooter]

Thanks for admitting you just jumped into a thread on UFOs to make false claims about Jews.

But I guess it makes sense because you and space laser lady share views about Jewish control.

You brought up religion with yet another hypocritical post.
not me

 

[basketcase]

You brought up religion with yet another hypocritical post.
not me

No? You post about the first amendment was the first post about the Israeli-Hamas war simply because you have a freaky compulsion and can't stand people who call you on your bullshit posting about other topics.