China Vs USA (Trump)

[nottyboi]

It is notable that the VAT rebates usually are around 3%, 6%, 9%. For many illicit drugs and precursors in China, the VAT rebate is 13% (the highest within their taxation system). What about all the grants given to companies like Gaosheng Biotechnology, who is confirmed to have sold illicit drugs to western markets.


How come you can apply for a rebate for exports such as K2, MDMA, PCP (Angel dust) among others. All 3 are illegal drugs with no medicinal purpose. Doesn't seem like "legitimate reasons." You are right, manufacturing for domestic distribution is punishable by death, however manufacturing for export is encouraged and investigations requested by the U.S. are often delayed for days. There is a case, where the U.S. found evidence to prosecute a Chinese national for illegal drug manufacturing and senior CCP officials actually admitted that he committed a crime but refused to cooperate.


I am aware. How times do you need to repeat the same line. Fentanyl is extremely controlled in a medical setting often on time released patches in minimal dosages. It is 50-100x stronger than any other opioid (oxy, morphine, heroin, etc.) Why does the CCP incentivize manufacturing and exporting of such a controlled substance and its precursors. Why are there so many advertisements on popular Chinese online retailers for fentanyl and its precursors exportation allowed on its censored internet? The CCP has the ability to shut this all down but they don't prosecute but in fact encourage illegal exportation to transnational gangs.

I encourage you to read Ben Westhoff's Fentanyl Inc.

PCP is manufactured domestically from a readily available supply of chemicals. Reporting from law enforcement agencies indicates that the vast majority of the PCP available in the United States is manufactured in clandestine laboratories in the Southern California area.

Why can't you get past the reality that the USA is anxious to blame China for ANYTHING and even if China was sending Fentanyl to the USA, its being done through illegal means. Even if the Fentanyl was sent there on the orders of President Xi himself, there would be NO PROBLEM without the opiate epidemic being caused by Purdue Phama. Also if the USA cannot stop smuggling of Fentanyl (and has failed with every drug in history) how do you expect China, a nation of over 1B people and the largest exporter of EVERYTHING, to magically succeed in something the USA has failed at for DECADES. The USA cannot even keep drugs out of prisons for godsakes. Have some common sense and realize this is all political theatre for people that will not think for themselves.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Great, I'll go along with it. Chine losing the trade war is as real as Trump being hung like John Holmes.

..........but Trump is hung like John Holmes, now. It is all shriveled up and moldy with holes in it and maggots crawling all over.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

But you posted saying you don't think its legal for China to sell to Mexico.

What kind of thuggery is this, The next thing you know 40micmic will come along and threaten to push over your vegetable cart if you are selling tomatoes in the piazza.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

It is very naive to think the CCP is not weaponizing fentanyl and now nitazene.

Do you have even one shred of evidence that China is weaponizing illicit drugs against the west?

There’s no proof that the Chinese government is purposely using fentanyl as a weapon against the U.S. While many fentanyl chemicals come from China, it is criminal groups behind it. China has made some efforts to control the problem, especially under pressure from other countries. Some people believe China isn’t doing enough and may be turning a blind eye, but that’s different from actively trying to harm the U.S. Given the past history of the British bringing opium from the middle east to trade for goods with China, they would consider this act to be abhorrent.

 

[40micmic]

Here is a pretty good report regarding illicit fentanyl and precursor production and exporting in china. Goes into great detail with some pretty damning evidence linking CCP involvement. Unfortunately for some here, it requires reading comprehension, common sense, some critical thought and a bit of deductive reasoning. Dont worry it only requires a little bit. Some dots are connecting for you. Unfortunately, the report doesnt have any pictures of Xi giving baggies of fentanyl to tze chi lop or sam gor associates.

Anyways, how about that Hainan incident?

https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/The%20CCP's%20Role%20in%20the%20Fentanyl%20Crisis%204.16.24%20(1).pdf

 

[40micmic]

What kind of thuggery is this, The next thing you know 40micmic will come along and threaten to push over your vegetable cart if you are selling tomatoes in the piazza.

You still mad that your whole Hainan incident argument got obliterated in previous threads?

 

[Ceiling Cat]

You still mad that your whole Hainan incident argument got obliterated in previous threads?

That is a Trumpian move, saying bull shit does not make it true. Go preach to the U-men and cacklers.

 

[40micmic]

That is a Trumpian move, saying bull shit does not make it true. Go preach to the U-men and cacklers.

Lol. What is a trumpian move? The fact that you tried to pass off misinformation about the Hainan incident and china accesion to the WTO twice in different threads and got fact checked twice by yours truly and could not give any sort of rebuttal after? There are receipts...

 

[squeezer]

Fareed’s Take: A perfect storm might be coming in the global economy, which is being run by a clown and his misfits.

 

[40micmic]

Fareed: Trump is right. China cheats on trade