Chief Mark Saunders

Heard him his first interview as Chief when one of the reporters asked him if the carding practices would be changed. He replied that he would have to look at the department policies and procedures before he could answer. Great a new chief with 32 years on the force, x years as a Deputy Chief and he doesn't know the current policies and procedures. Think he has a chance of making it to Deputy Chief knowledge level before his contract as chief is up?
 
Heard him his first interview as Chief when one of the reporters asked him if the carding practices would be changed. He replied that he would have to look at the department policies and procedures before he could answer.


<sigh>

Yup, same old same old.

The Police Services Board clearly wanted the practice to stop and the insolent and insubordinate Chief Blair refused. The Board figured he was on his way out so didn't pursue it. Now it seems their new Chief is going to maintain the status quo.

Man up Chief.

Either say NO we are not going to "card", it's not worth it to infringe on citizens rights to be free from indiscriminate detention and questioning just to think you have some sort of intelligence that might preclude some drug deal some day.

Or say tough shit, we ARE going to keep stopping and carding blacks so as to protect them from their own community.

Either way...

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If young green males were shooting and killing each other at a much higher then socially acceptable level, wouldn't the police also start carding young green males as well or would they card old purple females instead?
 
If young green males were shooting and killing each other at a much higher then socially acceptable level, wouldn't the police also start carding young green males as well or would they card old purple females instead?


Sorry, simpleton argument.

You, like many, just don't get the bigger picture.

I'm no fan nor defender of the "Dindu Nuffins" of society. Fuck 'em.

But I am a defender of our society. A society that is free from interference of our liberty by men with guns and authority and power to kill or imprison without lawful cause.

It is a bigger concept than keeping Jane and Finch weed sales enterprises and the resultant violence a little bit down and solving the associated inter-gang violence.
 
Heard him his first interview as Chief when one of the reporters asked him if the carding practices would be changed. He replied that he would have to look at the department policies and procedures before he could answer. Great a new chief with 32 years on the force, x years as a Deputy Chief and he doesn't know the current policies and procedures. Think he has a chance of making it to Deputy Chief knowledge level before his contract as chief is up?


Exactly, when you have 32 years on the force, you don't get a "new guy" card. Plus he said he needed time to take the pulse of the city. WTF has he been? I do NOT have a good feeling. He is already looking clownish.
 
If young green males were shooting and killing each other at a much higher then socially acceptable level, wouldn't the police also start carding young green males as well or would they card old purple females instead?

As long as the thugs are killing each other, give them ammo and shooting lessons so they don't kill any innocent people.
 
Sorry, simpleton argument.

You, like many, just don't get the bigger picture.

I'm no fan nor defender of the "Dindu Nuffins" of society. Fuck 'em.

But I am a defender of our society. A society that is free from interference of our liberty by men with guns and authority and power to kill or imprison without lawful cause.

It is a bigger concept than keeping Jane and Finch weed sales enterprises and the resultant violence a little bit down and solving the associated inter-gang violence.

Bang on
 
I think the police should respect and follow the direction of the civilian authority
Here's the thing. Once we start doing stuff for political reasons we end up with fiascos like the gas plants relocations.
 
Here's the thing. Once we start doing stuff for political reasons we end up with fiascos like the gas plants relocations.

Which has nothing to do with civilian oversight of the police.