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gibsomstreet

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Club M4 allows single men on Fridays and Sundays, but on Sundays it's "bi-nite" so you will need to be cool with other guys sucking your cock!!

If you want to go to a swingers club, the best way to enjoy it is with a female.

As a single guy, your odds are slim to none (but there is always that bi angle.)
Though re the apparent foolhardiness of a single male attending a swingers club, I'm wondering whether the dynamic changes on "bi-nite"--maybe by weeding out the dorks and fairweather riff-raff? Of course, you have to be bi-inclined in the first place, but I'd *like* to imagine that the chances of getting it on with a couple rather than standing forlorn by are higher on such a night, because it's a sign you're truly serious--then again, I could be wrong, especially if it's (still) a whole lot of guys looking for couples rather than merely other guys.

If anyone knows what it's truly like for the single guy on bi-nite, please pitch in.
 

fmahovalich

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There is generally two fees at these places.... And single male rates are significantly higher.

The first fee gets you into a bar dance area...mingling so to speak. Very little action..except maybe a couple girls snuggling and being sexy on thedancefloor. Perhaps the odd boob is seen.

However if you pay the extra fee...COUPLES can enter the play area....shower...get a locker at some places..and play as they please.


So even if you wanted to go as a single..and watch...you would only get into the first room area..and for $80. Or perhaps a bit less....you would see nothing.

Forget going alone to see action.
 

james t kirk

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^^ there is not 2 fees at M4. Don't know what you're talking about there. You pay the door fee and you're in.

Can't speak to Wicked on single male nights.
 

gibsomstreet

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Yeah, it was M4 I was thinking of. More egalitarian.

My vibe from Wicked (not having been there, though I almost visited during its Nuit Blanche open house) is that it's extremely velvet-ropey, even beyond the single-male issue. You really have to be "good-looking", or go to the effort to be "good-looking", to fit the milieu--except if you're a Nuit Blanche spectator, I suppose.
 

james t kirk

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Yeah, it was M4 I was thinking of. More egalitarian.

My vibe from Wicked (not having been there, though I almost visited during its Nuit Blanche open house) is that it's extremely velvet-ropey, even beyond the single-male issue. You really have to be "good-looking", or go to the effort to be "good-looking", to fit the milieu--except if you're a Nuit Blanche spectator, I suppose.
I've been to Wicked a few times and I'm long past my GQ days, believe me.

I think as long as you show up with a woman and you have the dough, you're in.

But as a single male goes, depends on how much they need the cash. It always comes down to the cashola.

M4 is much more welcoming for the over 40 crowd. That said, I've seen some beastly women at M4. I'm talking 400 pounders. But god bless them I guess. Don't get me wronng, there are lots of attractive women at M4, but it's an older middle aged crowd and time is never kind now is it?
 

gibsomstreet

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Of course, re Wicked, I already preemptively put "good-looking" in quotes.

But I'm still wondering about the single male on bi-nite at M4--that is, if you whittle things down to the sorts who are willing to get it on with both partners in a Fred & Ethel Mertz coupling, that factors out an awful lot of riff-raff.
 

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Yeah, it was M4 I was thinking of. More egalitarian.

My vibe from Wicked (not having been there, though I almost visited during its Nuit Blanche open house) is that it's extremely velvet-ropey, even beyond the single-male issue. You really have to be "good-looking", or go to the effort to be "good-looking", to fit the milieu--except if you're a Nuit Blanche spectator, I suppose.
you're saying it as if it's a bad thing
 

gibsomstreet

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you're saying it as if it's a bad thing
Well, I used "good-looking" in quotes.

(It's like: you *really* have to go to the effort to be Wicked-worthy; whereas M4 is more hang-loose. Of course, you have to be equally hang-loose in your tolerance of potential "couple-partners"; but it depends on which end of the equation is "worth it" to you.)
 

afterhours

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Well, I used "good-looking" in quotes.

(It's like: you *really* have to go to the effort to be Wicked-worthy; whereas M4 is more hang-loose. Of course, you have to be equally hang-loose in your tolerance of potential "couple-partners"; but it depends on which end of the equation is "worth it" to you.)
if I were prepared to accept shitty looking women as partners I would not be on this board...
 

frankcastle

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My original name was deleted a while back... I came back and took some time off (a couple years)... looks like there are many new faces and some of the old ones have left
That's cool. Definitely agree on the change in faces. But basically the same old place. Hope you're doing well.
 

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I went a few times - the last time was probably close to two years ago. Not sure how it is now but back then I found it a bit overrated.
 
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