CERB Extended 4 More Weeks

[roadhog]

And then those ineligible for EI can get $400/wk after that.

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[canada-man]

can they afford this?

 

[jerimander]

They will take money from WE.

 

[sp free]

Sweet.

 

[Carvher]

No we can't afford this. It's the Liberal way. It will be more difficult to get people back to work, sure Singh likes it though. If it was up to them, nobody would work

 

[Indiana]

Print more money.

 

[luvyeah]

Print more money.

 

[sp free]

No we can't afford this. It's the Liberal way. It will be more difficult to get people back to work, sure Singh likes it though. If it was up to them, nobody would work

People would love to be back working as though none of this happened, I can guarantee you that.

You think I want to sit at home doing fuck all for a third of what I could be making, as I watch my industry evaporate?

 

[K Douglas]

People would love to be back working as though none of this happened, I can guarantee you that.

You think I want to sit at home doing fuck all for a third of what I could be making, as I watch my industry evaporate?

People should be back at work. But I think you're being naive many people are loving this $2K per month CERB for doing nothing. Hundreds of thousands are abusing it make no mistake about it. 2021 will be a rude awakening for many of them.

 

[Platon]

can they afford this?

They are not going to afford shit, we will on their behave

 

[K Douglas]

For someone to work an earn 2k a month they must work 40 hours a week at 12.50 which is a little less than minimum wage ($14/h). But this is without taking into account taxes and EI that comes off every paycheck.
At what wage would it be generally be better for someone to go to work for 40 hours instead of doing absolutely nothing?

What would make it worth it?
And what is something they could reasonably expect in the market today?

All CERB is doing is acting like a little pay cut to the majority while giving them a paid fucking vacation.

Don't underestimate the laziness of the average person.

Part time workers and students have been collecting CERB for months. They weren't making $2K per month. I had a client who was receiving it yet he was still getting his normal self employment pay. I told him he had to stop or I would have to let him go. Its being abused don't kid yourself.

 

[sp free]

People will always abuse and take advantage of the situation. Perhaps they learn from the government. I don’t know.

What I do know is that the governments are forcing businesses and entire industries to shut down.

Are we all supposed to learn how to code? Are we all supposed to fight over scraps and drive for Uber Eats or Skip The Dishes?

What are we supposed to do, exactly?

 

[jalimon]

What are we supposed to do, exactly?

Wait out until pandemic is over... In a year/18 months or so.

This CERB is shit as it's only delaying the real pain we will suffer. Just with all the corporation cutting down in half or more their commercial lease will send us in a shit who economy.

We are still on the bubble...

 

[sp free]

No business or industry can shut down for 2 years and just pick up where they left off.

What about rent, mortgages, car payments, food, electricity, water, heat, etc.

What about medical care that many, many people are not getting. What effect is lockdown and the nanny state having on peoples mental and emotional states?

It’s one giant clusterfuck.

 

[jelly baby]

Just wear your old clothes. Don't buy new.
( 500,000 jobs lost )

Just cook at home. Don't buy take-out or go out to sit down restaurants.
( 500,000 jobs lost )

Don't travel, just look at countries on the internet. I watched all the Disney rides, without waiting in line or anything.
( 100,000 jobs lost )

The CBC is useless. The library is useless. The zoo is useless. The PanAm Games are useless. The Scarborough subway is useless ( versus buying buses ).
( 50,000 jobs lost )

Vote Hudak.
( 100,000 jobs lost ).

Then vote Mike Harris and a big 21.6% cut to low income moochers.

Then put him in charge of making profits from elderly people who are dying in nursing homes.

Because Conservatives are pure PSYCHOS.

Problem solved.

 

[IM469]

Part time workers and students have been collecting CERB for months. They weren't making $2K per month. I had a client who was receiving it yet he was still getting his normal self employment pay. I told him he had to stop or I would have to let him go. Its being abused don't kid yourself.

I know of people who are abusing it but I know a lot of people who absolutely needed it. They made it easy to obtain because the speed and numbers at which people found themselves out of work / money made it impossible to address applications individually. Even if you applied by phone you were cautioned that accepting CERB fraudulently could result in criminal charges. The CERB payouts are taxable income and the CRA will be comparing CERB income with income statements submitted by your employer. Some people have returned their CERB payments and the CRA said honest errors will only have to pay back the funds - fraud could amount to a fine of $5,000 as a start. Self employed could be a bigger challenge for them only because they would have to subpoena your bank records.

I think they needed CERB but I hope they go after the abusers.

 

[TeeJay]

Fucking idiots.... hell why not just put the whole country into bankruptcy

 

[TeeJay]

I know of people who are abusing it but I know a lot of people who absolutely needed it. They made it easy to obtain because the speed and numbers at which people found themselves out of work / money made it impossible to address applications individually. Even if you applied by phone you were cautioned that accepting CERB fraudulently could result in criminal charges. The CERB payouts are taxable income and the CRA will be comparing CERB income with income statements submitted by your employer. Some people have returned their CERB payments and the CRA said honest errors will only have to pay back the funds - fraud could amount to a fine of $5,000 as a start. Self employed could be a bigger challenge for them only because they would have to subpoena your bank records.

I think they needed CERB but I hope they go after the abusers.

What abusers??? The joke is there really are none.
Even if you were self employed, you can work, book the accounts receivable, make a legal claim $0 income in the month, get $2000 CERB payment, then collect the A/R next month from someone elses CERB payment... its batshit crazy the system

Have any of you actually read what "qualifies" for CERB?

If you earned $5000 in past 12 months (that is an average of $100 a week!) you QUALIFY for a CERB payment of $2000 per month (with 7 payments = $14,000)

Even a McDonalds summer flipper earns $5K in a year



Oh and something else which I found out (feel free to ask a Trustee / Lawyer)

IF you declare BANKRUPTCY due to Covid, you can DEFAULT on all your credit card payments, PLUS still LEGALLY receive CERB (Fact. Look it up; a CERB payment is NOT CONSIDERED INCOME if you are in a bankruptcy process)
So you literally walk away from all your debt last year, you collect $14K in free money, and you are laughing when this flu season is over

 

[decoy2673]

If we closed the borders in January we would've saved hundred of billions. Cant wait to vote Conservative next election.

 

[sp free]

If we closed the borders in January we would've saved hundred of billions. Cant wait to vote Conservative next election.

And how many thousands of lives?

Trudeau and his clown car cabinet made damn sure the virus would get in and wreak havoc. They literally did nothing for months while planeload after planeload of infected people walked right through the airports.

We did less than the US to keep this virus out. If we had anywhere near the population density and the number of metropolitan areas as they do down south, we’d be two times worse off than they are.

We’ve had
Cases: 123,873
Deaths: 9,054

7% of reported cases ended in death, so far.

USA
Cases: 5,746,534
Deaths: 177,426

3% of cases ended in death, so far.

And people have the gall to say Canada has done a good job.