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CDC confirms 100 preliminary reports of Guillain-Barré syndrome from J&J vaccine

jcpro

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Troubling to say the least, but expected since we're dealing with experimental drugs.
 

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silentkisser

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If I'm doing the math right, isn't about a 0.0008% chance of it happening? That is incredibly rare.
 

shack

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But it can
That's what I said because that's what "usually" means.

You obviously have trouble with English.

Meaning of usually in English
usually
adverb
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/ˈjuː.ʒu.ə.li/ US

/ˈjuː.ʒu.ə.li/

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in the way that most often happens:
He usually gets home about six o'clock.

Nowhere does it say always.

You're welcome Phil.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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That's what I said because that's what "usually" means.

You obviously have trouble with English.

Meaning of usually in English
usually
adverb
UK
/ˈjuː.ʒu.ə.li/ US

/ˈjuː.ʒu.ə.li/

A2
in the way that most often happens:
He usually gets home about six o'clock.

Nowhere does it say always.

You're welcome Phil.
Where did I say "always"??

My statement is factually correct, it can happen
 

shack

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Its incredibly rare until it happens to you and then its not so rare anymore
No! It is still rare. It is unfortunate and bad luck but it is still rare.

You seem to be having problems with definitions of basic words today:

Rare

not common or frequent; very unusual:
a rare disease/species
The museum is full of rare and precious treasures.
a rare occasion/opportunity/visit/treat, etc.
[ + to infinitive ] It's very rare to find these birds in New England in winter.
It's very rare to find someone who combines such qualities.
Thesaurus: synonyms, antonyms, and examples
unusual

  • unusualThat's an unusual name - where does it come from?
  • uncommonIt's not uncommon (= it is common) for people to become ill when they travel.
  • rareThis is a rare opportunity to visit the building.
  • unconventionalI had a very unconventional childhood.
  • uniqueThis is your chance to own a unique piece of jewellery.
0.0008% is rare no matter who gets it. It is how many get it.

I hope you got it now (not GB).
 

Phil C. McNasty

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No! It is still rare. It is unfortunate and bad luck but it is still rare.

You seem to be having problems with definitions of basic words today:

Rare

not common or frequent; very unusual:
a rare disease/species
The museum is full of rare and precious treasures.
a rare occasion/opportunity/visit/treat, etc.
[ + to infinitive ] It's very rare to find these birds in New England in winter.
It's very rare to find someone who combines such qualities.
Thesaurus: synonyms, antonyms, and examples
unusual

  • unusualThat's an unusual name - where does it come from?
  • uncommonIt's not uncommon (= it is common) for people to become ill when they travel.
  • rareThis is a rare opportunity to visit the building.
  • unconventionalI had a very unconventional childhood.
  • uniqueThis is your chance to own a unique piece of jewellery.
0.0008% is rare no matter who gets it. It is how many get it.

I hope you got it now (not GB).
I never said it wasnt rare, I said it can happen (which is factually true)
 

shack

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Where did I say "always"??

My statement is factually correct, it can happen
Then why did you feel the need to correct my post when I said " not usually"? By definition it means what you said "but it can", which is what I said but using usually.. Or did you just want to reinforce that my statement was 100% correct, in which case, thanks for your acknowledgement.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Then why did you feel the need to correct my post when I said " not usually"? By definition it means what you said "but it can", which is what I said but using usually.. Or did you just want to reinforce that my statement was 100% correct, in which case, thanks for your acknowledgement
No I didnt want to reinforce your statement, I was merely making a factual statement of my own
 

shack

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No I didnt want to reinforce your statement, I was merely making a factual statement of my own
Then you simply repeated what I said ("but it usually doesn't") even though you attempted to indicate that I was wrong?

Was my statement inaccurate?
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You absolutely did:


I have to repeat myself. It does not matter who it happens to (even if it's you). Rare refers to only how often.

So even if it happens to you, it is still rare.
That doesnt change the fact that it isnt rare to the person who contracts Guillain-Barré syndrome, its only rare to the people who dont contract it
 

shack

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But usually doesn't.
That doesnt change the fact that it isnt rare to the person who contracts Guillain-Barré syndrome, its only rare to the people who dont contract it
Your lack of comprehension of the word rare is truly astounding, even by your standards.

As jcpro said, it is tragic when it happens to you. But it is still has an occurrence of 0.0008%, which to a person with a properly functioning brain, understands that it is till rare even if it happens to you.
 
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