Hockey fans just boo any politician. If was Harper he would have been booed too.
CBC puts LAYTON firmly in SECOND PLACE
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Harper would not stoop.....
Besides...he is too busy getting down to business of governing...settling on a cabinet...getting ready to roll after this short hiccup by the opposition parties!!!
Besides...he is too busy getting down to business of governing...settling on a cabinet...getting ready to roll after this short hiccup by the opposition parties!!!
How about the collectivization of the means of production, factories, farms and shops under central control. Killing off class enemies. Just to name two things
I am not a fan of communism, but using it in such a context cheapens the term. Like referring to someone who lears at a woman as a rapist or calling someone a Nazi for one of the many ways Godwin's law gets invoked. [Not that I've never done similar things, but I am a schmuck]
OTOH communism does have some purposes
Out of all the candidates, Layton's by far the best speaker. He comes off as a genuine speaker.
Ignatieff if self distructing and fast. He just comes off as a shaddy guy and if you've followed his campaign you'd noticed that he's been changing his stance on numersous occasions.
Harper - or as we all know him as the Android. No emotions and every once and while he'll through in a smirk to show us that he's human.
So for me I'll be voting for the Android. Resonibly good track record with surpluses. No tax hikes or at least that's what he says.
Jack and Michael, how do they expect to pay for their plans? Tax us (not a good idea). Tax big coorporations (Not a good idea either). We all know how Canada companies like to pass on cost to it's comsumers. So it's more then likely we'll have to pay more for essential products (food) and services. And who knows these companies may even lay people off to cut down on costs.
I'd rather vote and play it safe then risk having to pay more for products/services.
Ignatieff if self distructing and fast. He just comes off as a shaddy guy and if you've followed his campaign you'd noticed that he's been changing his stance on numersous occasions.
Harper - or as we all know him as the Android. No emotions and every once and while he'll through in a smirk to show us that he's human.
So for me I'll be voting for the Android. Resonibly good track record with surpluses. No tax hikes or at least that's what he says.
Jack and Michael, how do they expect to pay for their plans? Tax us (not a good idea). Tax big coorporations (Not a good idea either). We all know how Canada companies like to pass on cost to it's comsumers. So it's more then likely we'll have to pay more for essential products (food) and services. And who knows these companies may even lay people off to cut down on costs.
I'd rather vote and play it safe then risk having to pay more for products/services.
i wont be in canada to vote during the elections and i didnt arrange to cast my vote before i left, however, i would vote for the ndp instead of the conservatives this time around. i have voted conservative in the past and used to support the reform party before they merged with the pcs. in general, my political philosophy is more aligned with libertarians - maximum freedom for the individual with little government to speak of. the reason why i am supporting the ndp this time around is the issue of healthcare. i believe strongly in the right to pursue private health care options, as our current healthcare system is so overburdened that the time it takes to receive treatment is often way too long. in america, i can usually get full treatment in less than 21 days. in canada, it is closer to 8 - 12 months. america also has many more options available in treating ailments and if you want second or third opinions, a private system is a much more efficient way of achieving such a thing.
anyway, as no party supports private healthcare in canada, and essentially, as paying for healthcare is practically illegal in canada, i have decided to support the party that will likely pump the most money into the only system that would be available to me in canada. no sense voting for the conservatives on this issue. when harper was a member of the reform party out west, he called canada a welfare state and said that he supported private healthcare. now, as prime minister, he has stated that he is against any form of healthcare that goes against the canadian healthcare act. in short, he developed amnesia or the communist bug and is now on the side of the field that believes government is better at delivering services than the private marketplace.
in summary, its better to vote for the communist that will give you something in return for confiscating your money instead of the voting for the communist who will give you nothing even after taking everything from you. on healthcare, layton and the ndp are the more friendly communists.
anyway, as no party supports private healthcare in canada, and essentially, as paying for healthcare is practically illegal in canada, i have decided to support the party that will likely pump the most money into the only system that would be available to me in canada. no sense voting for the conservatives on this issue. when harper was a member of the reform party out west, he called canada a welfare state and said that he supported private healthcare. now, as prime minister, he has stated that he is against any form of healthcare that goes against the canadian healthcare act. in short, he developed amnesia or the communist bug and is now on the side of the field that believes government is better at delivering services than the private marketplace.
in summary, its better to vote for the communist that will give you something in return for confiscating your money instead of the voting for the communist who will give you nothing even after taking everything from you. on healthcare, layton and the ndp are the more friendly communists.
BIG M : as long as your throwing around extremely loaded exaggerations , i'd rather vote commie than fascist, and though i'd planned on going lib, the weak campaign by iggie and the stooges who nominated him have me ready to drink jack's koolaid!
I will be at my appointed polling station on election day (BTW when is that) and vote as I usually do.
I write in...
Actually "None of the above" IS a choice.
Spoiled ballots are just tossed and disregarded. If you go to the poll (its May 2nd BTW Mr. Tourist), and refuse your ballot (do not mark it in any way)- they HAVE to count it.
http://www.rejecttheelection.ca/
http://www.blogto.com/city/2006/01/election_primer_010_how_to_not_vote/ (Method #3)
The Liberals will be electing a new leader in 2-3 years in time for the next federal election. Jack will retire as leader of the opposition,and the NDP will sink back down to 3rd-4th and be a thorn in the big ass of government which historically is their place.2015 will see a forty something Trudeau as Prime Minister. In the mean time the conservatives will run the country as THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!!!!
This is the amazing thing about Harper. His ability to redefine issues. He is presiding over the biggest deficit in Canadian history, and has a massive fiscal hole in his go forward plans. In all likelihood, he will cut federal transfers to the provinces, and force them to raise taxes.
What do people remember Harper for? "Resonibly good track record with surpluses. No tax hikes"
We get what we vote for ...
Oooo, you rebel you.
So they count it. It still goes in the "completely meaningless" bucket that everyone ignores.
Elections aren't about voting for the political party that perfectly matches your viewpoints. It's about compromising on a political party that best matches your political viewpoints. And if none of them do, either A) you should reconsider your viewpoint because dollars to donuts you're a whackjob or B) run for election yourself.
Frank you're such a dreamer.
Tell us how he can be setting up a cabinet when has no idea who's going to be available to choose from to be in his cabinet, un less it doesn't matter because he's going to have his arm up their butt and they'll do anything he wants them to; I guess.
Ironic, not at all. If it got pulled over to P&IA, I'd still respond to it. It is very much a duplicate to the one already there and just plain wrong. apparently so do you.
Vote for the right reasons - Android has not had any surpluses in any of the budgets he's presented. He talks about fiscal restraint yet his next budget will spend the last of the funds that the previous Liberal governments accumulated with their budget surpluses. You can plead undying adulation for android with blissful ignorance of facts as has been demonstrated here from a devoted lover- or just suggest you are throwing dice with these losers as most could identify with.
The more I hear from Michael - the more I'm convinced he is a robot and not human. How can this guy teach yet be so horrible at communicating his ideas ? I don't like the sleazy personal attacks from Harper but lack of fight in this guy is weird.
Jack Layton is a guy I like but I'm afraid of his policies. I must hand it to him - he has taken the fight directly to the heart of the PQ and is now viewed as the legitimate alternative to the PQ. Sad that the liberals or conservatives can perform this good. If the PQ looses seats in this election - it will at least be worth it.
Wise acres! You all know who you are. Listen up and learn something, but somehow I doubt you will. I know I did
Disaffected and angry voters, take note: spoiling your ballot is a crime.
There's no legal way to express disgust for politics via the ballot, whether by scribbling on it, writing obscenities, or drawing pictures.
According to section 167(2)(a) of the Canada Elections Act, "no person shall wilfully alter, deface or destroy a ballot." Conviction could bring a $500 fine or three months in jail -- even though the chances of getting caught are effectively nil.
Nil, that is, unless the spoiler wants to make a show of the protest -- by eating the ballot, for example.
Members of the Edible Ballot Society tried that method in the 2000 election but the trend faded after a number of prosecutions.
Spoiling a ballot in privacy is not much of a protest, suggests Elections Canada spokesman Dana Doiron.
"Nobody gets real satisfaction out of it because nobody knows about it," Doiron said.
"It can't be attributed to the individual because of the secrecy. It just goes unrecorded, unnanounced, unknown. So you've wasted your time going to the poll in the first place."
Chief Electoral Officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley has mused about introducing some legal method for registering a protest vote, but there have been no concrete proposals.
So what's a disgusted voter to do?
"There are laws against disrupting the conduct of the polls, so you can't go there and shout and scream and stamp your feet," said Doiron.
The best strategy is to become a candidate, or try to find a candidate worthy of support, he said.
But many Canadians are taking the lazy way out and staying home. Rates of voter participation have been declining with every election in recent history.
Elections Canada has tried to counter declining turnout by making it easier for people to vote, both through advance polls and through special mail-in ballots.
In this election it has been easier to vote than ever before, said Doiron. Those wishing to do so could cast a ballot almost any day since the writ was dropped, even before the campaign got seriously under way.
That raises another question: what if a voter changes his or her mind before election day?
Too bad, Doiron said. You can only vote once.
Those convinced that political ethics have never been worse might recall that as recently as the 1950s, politicans were known to offer voters chocolates, bottles of rum or nylon stockings.
That isn't heard of now, says Doiron.
"There were some things that society found semi-acceptable that just are not acceptable now. It's like lighting up a cigarette in a baby's room, it's just not considered any more."
Nor has the result of any Canadian election been disputed, a contrast with recent history in the United States.
In U.S. federal elections, every state has a different voting system; in this country Elections Canada applies the same rules across the country and a single missing ballot must be explained.
That's why you can't eat the ballot.
My Gawd, the BQ is really nervous as they've rolled out Don Quioté or is it Donkey Joté, Jacques Paresseau. to a very small crowd in St. Lambert, a BQ riding.
