CBC: Forget the 'slippery slope' — Israel already is an apartheid state
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You described the borders, but can you point to a map that outlines them exactly.You know on most topics you appear to be a thoughtful poster. On this and related topics however you are being intentionally disingenuous. I have said their are borders which are internationally recognized and beyond any legitimate dispute other than perhaps Hamas and you. Beyond the border there is an armistice line. I know that you appreciate the difference even if you don't agree.
LOL. I have described the rule of law and the benefits of citizenship applying to citizens of a country and not non-citizen/non-residents.
Are you including Israel by 1947, 1948, 1967 or the land they control today?
Does your map included Palestine?
If it includes Palestine, how do you describe that relationship?
How do you justify settlements ruled illegal by the world?
How do you justify the wall, ruled illegal by the ICJ?
How do you justify separate roads, services and laws in the 'occupied territories'?
Those are the questions basketcase and most Israeli supporters can't answer.
If you say its Israel, then its apartheid, if you say its occupied then why are they still there and why are they still building settlements?
So many questions, to which the only answer we ever hear about here, is 'look, a terrorist!'.
I could point to a thousand maps but I wont do your work for you. Your assertion is absurd that there are no internationally recognized border od Isreal proper as well as the 1967 armistice lines. The fact that you don't accept or recognize the borders does not change the fact. It simply demonstrates your intellectual dishonesty.You described the borders, but can you point to a map that outlines them exactly.
Are you including Israel by 1947, 1948, 1967 or the land they control today?
Does your map included Palestine?
If it includes Palestine, how do you describe that relationship?
How do you justify settlements ruled illegal by the world?
How do you justify the wall, ruled illegal by the ICJ?
How do you justify separate roads, services and laws in the 'occupied territories'?
Those are the questions basketcase and most Israeli supporters can't answer.
If you say its Israel, then its apartheid, if you say its occupied then why are they still there and why are they still building settlements?
So many questions, to which the only answer we ever hear about here, is 'look, a terrorist!'.
All of the questions you have posed have nothing at all to do with the borders of Israel. No one disputes that the settlements are outside the borders of Israel proper. whether you think they are illegal or not is a different issue which you choose to conflate because it suits your narrative.
I just want one map that clearly states what you think the borders of Israel are.I could point to a thousand maps but I wont do your work for you. Your assertion is absurd that there are no internationally recognized border od Isreal proper as well as the 1967 armistice lines. The fact that you don't accept or recognize the borders does not change the fact. It simply demonstrates your intellectual dishonesty.
All of the questions you have posed have nothing at all to do with the borders of Israel. No one disputes that the settlements are outside the borders of Israel proper. whether you think they are illegal or not is a different issue which you choose to conflate because it suits your narrative.
Can you not do that?
LOL. Just so I understand. Are you suggesting that there are no internationally recognized borders for Israel. If you can show me that there is no international agreement or that it is a matter of controversy other than Mongolian the anti Israel crowd I will post a map.I just want one map that clearly states what you think the borders of Israel are.
Can you not do that?
Post a map, please.LOL. Just so I understand. Are you suggesting that there are no internationally recognized borders for Israel. If you can show me that there is no international agreement or that it is a matter of controversy other than Mongolian the anti Israel crowd I will post a map.
Can you do it?
LOL. In other words you cant show me that there is no international agreement as to the borders of Israel proper or that it is a matter of controversy. Nice try.Post a map, please.
Can you do it?
How can you have a country and not know what the borders are?LOL. In other words you cant show me that there is no international agreement as to the borders of Israel proper or that it is a matter of controversy. Nice try.
LOL. It would appear that the only one who doesn't know where the borders of Isreal proper are is you. You are funny. But nice try.How can you have a country and not know what the borders are?
You say that but you can't provide a map with those borders.LOL. It would appear that the only one who doesn't know where the borders of Isreal proper are is you. You are funny. But nice try.
That is what's funny.
LOL. Keep up the good work I am not interested in paying your silly game. You seem to be the only one who does not know how to use the search button. Your mother probably taught you something about laziness. Try and be a big boy and hit search. Nice try.You say that but you can't provide a map with those borders.
That is what's funny.
Another Israeli supporter who won't declare publicly whether they support apartheid or admit they support land theft.LOL. Keep up the good work I am not interested in paying your silly game. You seem to be the only one who does not know how to use the search button. Your mother probably taught you something about laziness. Try and be a big boy and hit search. Nice try.
Must be hard to defend a country that you can't even tell us where it is.
LMAO. And you conclude that because you are too lazy to hit the search button. I support equal rights to all legal residents of Israel. I also support the right of Palestinians to an independent sovereign state. I also believe that that state will not come until the leaders of both countries are prepared to make very hard choices and the Palestinians stop listing to people like you who are selling them the pipe dream of driving the Jews back into the sea.Another Israeli supporter who won't declare publicly whether they support apartheid or admit they support land theft.
Must be hard to defend a country that you can't even tell us where it is.
In the meantime would you ask someone to show you how to use the search button.
Given that Palestinians have lived as stateless refugees for half a century under Israeli rule, that means you support the present apartheid system, with different rules for Palestinians and Israelis.LMAO. And you conclude that because you are too lazy to hit the search button. I support equal rights to all legal residents of Israel.
A detailed charge of apartheid is available here for you.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/w...inian-people-apartheid-occupation-english.pdf
I'm asking you if you can identify the border of Israel.In the meantime would you ask someone to show you how to use the search button.
You, like basketcase, cannot.
How can you call Israel a legit country if you can't even tell us where you think its borders are?
LOL. You can continue to play your game. I will not. Point me to someone who has said that the borders of Israel proper are not defined. You can continue with your silliness or try and get real.Given that Palestinians have lived as stateless refugees for half a century under Israeli rule, that means you support the present apartheid system, with different rules for Palestinians and Israelis.
A detailed charge of apartheid is available here for you.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/w...inian-people-apartheid-occupation-english.pdf
They have lived as refugees because the Arab world decided not to afford then the rights with the exception of Palestinians all refugees have. in fact the recent Saudi peace plan which was recently leaked had as its centrpoint the withdrawal of the prohibition against accepting Palestinians. The Saudis have recognized the issue that you refuse to.
I'm asking you if you can identify the border of Israel.
You, like basketcase, cannot.
How can you call Israel a legit country if you can't even tell us where you think its borders are?
Ok, so you say they are defined.LOL. You can continue to play your game. I will not. Point me to someone who has said that the borders of Israel proper are not defined. You can continue with your silliness or try and get real.
Then why can't you provide a map with these 'defined' borders?
Its such a basic request.
LOL. then why cant you provide the basis on which you say that the borders are not defined?Ok, so you say they are defined.
Then why can't you provide a map with these 'defined' borders?
Its such a basic request.
Its such a basic request.
Find someone else to play your game.
Its based on the fact that no Israeli supporter here can supply a map with the borders of Israel.LOL. then why cant you provide the basis on which you say that the borders are not defined?
Its such a basic request.
Find someone else to play your game.
LMAO. So in other words you cant find anyone who says there is any dispute or uncertainty about the borders. And the Israeli supporters and I expect everyone else on this board know how to use the search function. You should try it sometime. There is a world of useful and interesting information out there.Its based on the fact that no Israeli supporter here can supply a map with the borders of Israel.
For someone who is so expert at the google you sure can't seem to do this one task yourself.LMAO. So in other words you cant find anyone who says there is any dispute or uncertainty about the borders. And the Israeli supporters and I expect everyone else on this board know how to use the search function. You should try it sometime. There is a world of useful and interesting information out there.
Still can't show a map with the borders of Israel, can you?
