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Carney's Canada: Regressives Betraying Generations

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MARCO NAVARRO-GÉNIE
APR 27, 2025

In politics, progress ought to mean advancement toward a better future. Yet under the new stewardship of Mark Carney, Canada's so-called progressive movement has completed its transformation into a regressive machine — an apparatus of fear, debt, and gerontocratic self-interest.

It didn't begin with Carney. It started with Trudeau.

In 2015, Justin Trudeau floated to power on a tide of youthful exuberance. Young Canadians, seduced by his promises of open government, modest deficits, affordable housing, gender equality, proportional representation, and a green economy, delivered him a resounding mandate. Trudeau, a man whose policy experience was thinner than his tattoos, embodied the "new politics" of feeling over thinking.

The reality was more sordid. Trudeau botched everything except legalized pot. Deficits were neither modest nor temporary. Housing grew more expensive, not more affordable. Proportional representation was thrown under the campaign bus. Consultation became diktats to provinces. The green economy became a racket for insiders and consultants. Instead of opening the halls of power, Trudeau stuffed them with lobbyists, activists, and corporate grifters.

By 2019, the youthful voters he once inspired were older, saddled with higher rents, stagnant wages, and ballooning student debts. Their political energy had curdled into distrust. His party hemorrhaged support. Only the manufactured terror of COVID-19 postponed his reckoning.

The Great Betrayal: Fear as Governance

When the pandemic prolonged, Trudeau fabricated a new lease on political life. Fear became governance. The government, like many across the West, ordered mass lockdowns that sacrificed the livelihoods, educations, and mental health of the young to cocoon the elderly. Canada's response was among the most hysterical: lockdowns extended into 2022, school closures surpassed OECD averages, and border controls strangled commerce.

The greatest economic victims of these policies were the young. According to Statistics Canada, by late 2021, youth unemployment (ages 15–24) had soared to 14.5%, more than double the national average. Simultaneously, federal spending skyrocketed. The Fraser Institute estimates the federal debt ballooned from $619 billion in 2015 to $1.2 trillion by 2023, nearly doubling in less than a decade.

Today, every Canadian under 30 carries an additional $30,000 share of federal debt thanks to "modest deficits."

The End of Trudeau, The Rise of the Boomer Technocrats

By 2025, Trudeau was no longer salvageable. His party, desperate and cornered, reluctantly threw him overboard. Yet rather than pivoting toward renewal, the Liberals enthroned a figure representing everything Canadians had once sought to leave behind: Mark Carney and his radical green agenda.

Carney, a globalist banker who spent more of his career abroad than in Canada, is at odds with his country's political culture. He is stiff where Trudeau was manic, dour where Trudeau was exuberant, and hostile to scrutiny where Trudeau at least pretended at openness. Carney cannot speak fluent French. He cannot summon charisma. But he is fluent in the language of elite technocracy, globalese, and the bureaucratese of panels, frameworks, and steering committees.

He is the face of regression, not progress.

The Boomer Base: Fearful and Entitled

Polls confirm the shift. According to an Angus Reid recent survey (April 2025), Carney's strongest support lies among Canadians over 55 — the demographic that profited most from the past three decades' housing inflation and stock market booms. In the same survey, 68% of Gen Z and Millennials said the Liberals had "betrayed" their economic interests, while 27% of Boomers agreed.

In fact, among voters over 65, the Liberals under Carney enjoy a modest lead over the Conservatives, even as they hemorrhage support among every younger cohort.



The Regressive Party

The Liberals are no longer a "progressive" party in any meaningful sense. They are a party of fearful cranks: terrified of change, addicted to spending, suspicious of free speech, and hostile to national self-reliance. They mortgage the young's future to buy the old's comfort.

Federal debt: Up nearly 100% in a decade.

Federal spending: Expanded by 83% from 2015 to 2023.

GDP per capita: Stagnated. Canada's GDP per capita grew at just 0.3% annually post-2015, the worst among G7 nations.

Housing prices: Doubled from 2015 to 2023; home ownership among Canadians under 40 fell below 35%.

Food inflation: Reached 10% annually in 2022–2023, according to the University of Guelph’s Food Price Report.

Homelessness: Exploded, with tent cities now regular features even in mid-sized Canadian cities like Kitchener, Windsor, and Halifax.

Meanwhile, Ottawa under Trudeau and now Carney presided over cultural and civilizational decay:

Over 200 churches and synagogues have been vandalized or burned since 2021.

Free speech corroded; journalists bought off through $600 million in media bailouts.

Judicial systems paralyzed; court backlogs doubled. Revolving doors for dangerous criminals.

According to Statistics Canada, violent crime rates rose by 32% between 2015 and 2023.

Assisted suicide normalized: over 13,000 deaths by MAiD in 2022 alone, a grim global record.

The Unions and the Elites

Large unions continue to back the Liberals, but these are not unions of productive workers. They are the bloated syndicates of teachers, bureaucrats, and academics. Their leaders wave Soviet flags at parades, genuflect to foreign dictators, and back policies that mutilate children in the name of "gender affirmation." They speak neither for the productive classes nor for the working poor. They are an aristocracy of mediocrity, a leisure class on the taxpayer's back.

The productive private-sector worker — the engineer, the welder, the small business owner — finds no voice in Carney's Canada. They are taxed, regulated, and insulted. Their dreams are choked by layers of "progressive" red tape.

The Other Canada: Rebellion and Renewal

The alternative is emerging as a rough, imperfect political realignment: a coalition of the dispossessed, the productive, the young, and the brave. Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives now lead among voters under 40 — a stunning reversal of traditional patterns. A Leger poll from March 2025 found that 46% of Canadians aged 18–34 would vote Conservative, compared to just 23% Liberal.

This is not nostalgia. It is rebellion. It is the righteous hope of punishing a corrupt aristocracy and restoring promises to a generation betrayed.

The Choice Before Us

Canada stands at a fork in the road.

One path leads deeper into poorly managed decline, anti-human, anti-industry environmental ideology, debt slavery, and cultural disintegration under the regressive Liberals and their boomer technocrats.

The other leads toward painful but necessary renewal: freeing markets, freeing speech, ending the culture of fear, and dismantling the bureaucratic state that feasts upon the young and productive.

The choice is stark. The clock is ticking.

And no amount of tampons in men’s bathrooms will hide the stench of national decay.

It is so grotesque an inversion that history seems to offer no parallel: the instinct to shield and uplift the next generation has been a sacred duty, the defining trait of healthy cultures, is now pushed aside. The Trudeau heritage is Carney’s Canada, where the natural order has been perversely inverted. The old demand the sacrifice of future generations, and call it Canada's strength.

 

nottyboi

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APR 27, 2025

In politics, progress ought to mean advancement toward a better future. Yet under the new stewardship of Mark Carney, Canada's so-called progressive movement has completed its transformation into a regressive machine — an apparatus of fear, debt, and gerontocratic self-interest.

It didn't begin with Carney. It started with Trudeau.

In 2015, Justin Trudeau floated to power on a tide of youthful exuberance. Young Canadians, seduced by his promises of open government, modest deficits, affordable housing, gender equality, proportional representation, and a green economy, delivered him a resounding mandate. Trudeau, a man whose policy experience was thinner than his tattoos, embodied the "new politics" of feeling over thinking.

The reality was more sordid. Trudeau botched everything except legalized pot. Deficits were neither modest nor temporary. Housing grew more expensive, not more affordable. Proportional representation was thrown under the campaign bus. Consultation became diktats to provinces. The green economy became a racket for insiders and consultants. Instead of opening the halls of power, Trudeau stuffed them with lobbyists, activists, and corporate grifters.

By 2019, the youthful voters he once inspired were older, saddled with higher rents, stagnant wages, and ballooning student debts. Their political energy had curdled into distrust. His party hemorrhaged support. Only the manufactured terror of COVID-19 postponed his reckoning.

The Great Betrayal: Fear as Governance

When the pandemic prolonged, Trudeau fabricated a new lease on political life. Fear became governance. The government, like many across the West, ordered mass lockdowns that sacrificed the livelihoods, educations, and mental health of the young to cocoon the elderly. Canada's response was among the most hysterical: lockdowns extended into 2022, school closures surpassed OECD averages, and border controls strangled commerce.

The greatest economic victims of these policies were the young. According to Statistics Canada, by late 2021, youth unemployment (ages 15–24) had soared to 14.5%, more than double the national average. Simultaneously, federal spending skyrocketed. The Fraser Institute estimates the federal debt ballooned from $619 billion in 2015 to $1.2 trillion by 2023, nearly doubling in less than a decade.

Today, every Canadian under 30 carries an additional $30,000 share of federal debt thanks to "modest deficits."

The End of Trudeau, The Rise of the Boomer Technocrats

By 2025, Trudeau was no longer salvageable. His party, desperate and cornered, reluctantly threw him overboard. Yet rather than pivoting toward renewal, the Liberals enthroned a figure representing everything Canadians had once sought to leave behind: Mark Carney and his radical green agenda.

Carney, a globalist banker who spent more of his career abroad than in Canada, is at odds with his country's political culture. He is stiff where Trudeau was manic, dour where Trudeau was exuberant, and hostile to scrutiny where Trudeau at least pretended at openness. Carney cannot speak fluent French. He cannot summon charisma. But he is fluent in the language of elite technocracy, globalese, and the bureaucratese of panels, frameworks, and steering committees.

He is the face of regression, not progress.

The Boomer Base: Fearful and Entitled

Polls confirm the shift. According to an Angus Reid recent survey (April 2025), Carney's strongest support lies among Canadians over 55 — the demographic that profited most from the past three decades' housing inflation and stock market booms. In the same survey, 68% of Gen Z and Millennials said the Liberals had "betrayed" their economic interests, while 27% of Boomers agreed.

In fact, among voters over 65, the Liberals under Carney enjoy a modest lead over the Conservatives, even as they hemorrhage support among every younger cohort.



The Regressive Party

The Liberals are no longer a "progressive" party in any meaningful sense. They are a party of fearful cranks: terrified of change, addicted to spending, suspicious of free speech, and hostile to national self-reliance. They mortgage the young's future to buy the old's comfort.

Federal debt: Up nearly 100% in a decade.

Federal spending: Expanded by 83% from 2015 to 2023.

GDP per capita: Stagnated. Canada's GDP per capita grew at just 0.3% annually post-2015, the worst among G7 nations.

Housing prices: Doubled from 2015 to 2023; home ownership among Canadians under 40 fell below 35%.

Food inflation: Reached 10% annually in 2022–2023, according to the University of Guelph’s Food Price Report.

Homelessness: Exploded, with tent cities now regular features even in mid-sized Canadian cities like Kitchener, Windsor, and Halifax.

Meanwhile, Ottawa under Trudeau and now Carney presided over cultural and civilizational decay:

Over 200 churches and synagogues have been vandalized or burned since 2021.

Free speech corroded; journalists bought off through $600 million in media bailouts.

Judicial systems paralyzed; court backlogs doubled. Revolving doors for dangerous criminals.

According to Statistics Canada, violent crime rates rose by 32% between 2015 and 2023.

Assisted suicide normalized: over 13,000 deaths by MAiD in 2022 alone, a grim global record.

The Unions and the Elites

Large unions continue to back the Liberals, but these are not unions of productive workers. They are the bloated syndicates of teachers, bureaucrats, and academics. Their leaders wave Soviet flags at parades, genuflect to foreign dictators, and back policies that mutilate children in the name of "gender affirmation." They speak neither for the productive classes nor for the working poor. They are an aristocracy of mediocrity, a leisure class on the taxpayer's back.

The productive private-sector worker — the engineer, the welder, the small business owner — finds no voice in Carney's Canada. They are taxed, regulated, and insulted. Their dreams are choked by layers of "progressive" red tape.

The Other Canada: Rebellion and Renewal

The alternative is emerging as a rough, imperfect political realignment: a coalition of the dispossessed, the productive, the young, and the brave. Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives now lead among voters under 40 — a stunning reversal of traditional patterns. A Leger poll from March 2025 found that 46% of Canadians aged 18–34 would vote Conservative, compared to just 23% Liberal.

This is not nostalgia. It is rebellion. It is the righteous hope of punishing a corrupt aristocracy and restoring promises to a generation betrayed.

The Choice Before Us

Canada stands at a fork in the road.

One path leads deeper into poorly managed decline, anti-human, anti-industry environmental ideology, debt slavery, and cultural disintegration under the regressive Liberals and their boomer technocrats.

The other leads toward painful but necessary renewal: freeing markets, freeing speech, ending the culture of fear, and dismantling the bureaucratic state that feasts upon the young and productive.

The choice is stark. The clock is ticking.

And no amount of tampons in men’s bathrooms will hide the stench of national decay.

It is so grotesque an inversion that history seems to offer no parallel: the instinct to shield and uplift the next generation has been a sacred duty, the defining trait of healthy cultures, is now pushed aside. The Trudeau heritage is Carney’s Canada, where the natural order has been perversely inverted. The old demand the sacrifice of future generations, and call it Canada's strength.

No one knows where Carney is going to take us. But he does seem to at least define what is spend vs investment. He has a very low key charisma, I personally find he has a good sense of humor and tries to answer questions as honestly and is willing to say "I don't know" which is an important quality of honesty for a man that is clearly very smart. Will he make the right decisions, I would wager he even is hopeful he will, but is uncertain. Its not an easy job EH.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Backsliding into fascism American style would be regressive.
I am relieved and optimistic that Carney is in power.
Canada also needs to spend.
We need to become more self reliant, build housing and stop putting all our eggs in one basket.
So if that increases the deficit, so be it.
 

jeff2

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The rot started way back in the 1980s. Harper benefited from high oil prices while the Americans were building up fracking behind the scenes. But Trudeau should not have increased immigration and had no business flooding the job market with TFWs.
 

nottyboi

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^^^Just a full day and already we are seeing liberals question themselves.

There is will be no more pointing the finger at someone else anymore.

The final fuck up is here.
If you think that anyone can offer you certainty in these interesting times then I have a bridge to sell you. Frankly I would go so far as to say we are still close to the highest risk of armageddon in our lifetimes. Carney has not even picked his cabinet yet. Not met Trump. Trump is getting fucked up the ass by China, the Houthis are attacking their carriers and Israel. its a cluster.
 

DesRicardo

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If you think that anyone can offer you certainty in these interesting times then I have a bridge to sell you. Frankly I would go so far as to say we are still close to the highest risk of armageddon in our lifetimes. Carney has not even picked his cabinet yet. Not met Trump. Trump is getting fucked up the ass by China, the Houthis are attacking their carriers and Israel. its a cluster.
Like I said, you eventually run out of people or things to point the finger at.
 

JohnLarue

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Jan 19, 2005
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Backsliding into fascism American style would be regressive.
I am relieved and optimistic that Carney is in power.
Canada also needs to spend.
We need to become more self reliant, build housing and stop putting all our eggs in one basket.
So if that increases the deficit, so be it.
how about only liberal supporters be solely responsible for the enormous , growing and unsustainable national debt
Do if that drives only liberal supporters into bankruptcy , so be it.

spending printed money is just going to re-ignite inflation

if you had a clue, you would know the pathway for wealth generation in Canada is via natural resource development
And that is not going to happen at the required rate under the ecowarrior Liberals and Bill C-69
 

Frankfooter

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how about only liberal supporters be solely responsible for the enormous , growing and unsustainable national debt
Do if that drives only liberal supporters into bankruptcy , so be it.

spending printed money is just going to re-ignite inflation

if you had a clue, you would know the pathway for wealth generation in Canada is via natural resource development
And that is not going to happen at the required rate under the ecowarrior Liberals and Bill C-69
Hey larue, do you think natural resources are finite or infinite?
 
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