Carney

[JohnLarue]

Its no secret that I fucking despised Justin Trudeau with every ounce of my being. He was completely useless. I dreamed of the federal liberals suffering an extinction event in the last election, but I have to hand it to Justin, he completely out maneuvered Poilievre. He played it brilliantly. The liberals knew that given everyone's hatred of Justin that they'd be lucky to win 40 seats in an election and that in order to avoid that, Justin needed to go before the election. The old methodology of the dying leader leading his troops into a futile battle and then resigning the night the election results poured in seemed like such a waste of time. So someone came up with a brilliant plan. Make it look like a mutiny from within. But how?

My money is on Gerald Butts. Engineer a mutiny of the good ship liberal by putting forth some ridiculous budget with a 42 billion dollar deficit. Then get Chrystia Freeland to suddenly grow a spine and attack Justin and then resign via the media in spectacular fashion with some preplanned bogus resignation. Now the dye is cast. The media just laps it up and Justin falls on his own sword. Then he announces his resignation and wait for it, prorogues Parliament (why) until a new leader is picked. And along comes Carney.

Now the hated Trudeau is gone and Justin's liberal party is forgiven for all the times they all licked Trudeau's ass. Now there's always the risk that the public won't forgive the liberal party and boots them out anyway. But really, what do you have to lose. And it turns out it works and Carney saves the day. We'll played Justin and a few key liberals. It worked.

And now we have Prime Minister Carney.

But I'm willing to give Carney a shot because we can't keep doing the same shit and expect a better result. Mow I'm well aware that Carney is going to be running deficits, and I hate that shit. And I know people will say, "well how is Carney any different than Trudeau?"

Well he ain't the same. Not by a long shot. Yeah, he's running deficits, but he's not giving away the money to idiots like Justin did. He's no engaging in simple wealth redistribution like Trudeau, he's INVESTING in the country for the first time since God only knows. Maybe Mulroney. Maybe Pierre Trudeau. Carney is just saying I gotta do something to improve Canada's productivity, to genuinely build infrastructure to help the private sector. He's going to build ports and pipelines and high speed railways and airports and LNG facilities. He's not going to give certain species more beer money like Justin did for 10 years. And given the orange maggot down south, he knows rhat the relationship with the Yankees is forever changed. And so ya gotta spend money to make money.

So fuck Justin Trudeau, the incompetent Fuckhead. But I'm liking what Carney is doing. I will give him a chance and I hope he succeeds.

so we will agree Justin Trudeau, is the incompetent Fuckhead and
we will agree Gerald Butts is still the behind the scenes driver of the liberal party

i will also agree Carney is not a stupid as Justin Trudeau

however

• if Gerald Butts brought Carney on board, then the green / net zero agenda is the priority
• you can not build out a resource based, export dependant economy with a net zero agenda. those two objectives are not compatible >>> failure
• Carney has shifted the Carbon tax burden from the consumer to industry which will only make our industries less competitive
  • the concept of the carbon tax is incentive to reduce demand. Our industries do not control demand. their high costs due to carbon taxes will just mean lower sales for our industries and a shrinking economy
• Butts/ Carneys goal is to continue to land lock Alberta's oil
  • Carney has the sole authority and nation building obligation to greenlight an oil pipeline to the west coast
  • Carney will instead permit David Eby to block an oil pipeline despite the fact that Carney has the sole authority
  • Alberta independence will gain more momentum.
• Carney is investing in Canada as you say
  • All the sustainable borrowing capacity has been used by the moron Justin Trudeau
  • you can not spend your way out of a debt crisis

Yeah, he's running deficits, but he's not giving away the money to idiots like Justin did.

• if this were true the deficit would be smaller not larger
• Gerald Butts was able to funnel lots of govt $ to environmental NGOs . no way Carney gets Butts endorsement without assurances that funding will continue
• the size of federal govt increased by 40% under Trudeau. Given a decade of running massive deficits and the massive cost of servicing the unsustainable debt, the size of govt needs to shrink rapidly and significantly ie layoffs - Carney has instead opted to slow public sector hiring and hope attrition will reduce public sector head count by a few %
• excessive immigration policies caused major housing and health care capacity problems. Immigration should have been scaled back to well below 2015 levels until the collateral damage to housing and health care capacity has been rectified . Carney's immigration policies are tweaks which will bring in millions more maintaining / increasing the pressure on housing and health care capacity
  • when an ill conceived policy starts causing major collateral damage you do not tweak the policy, .......you kill it
• running deficits is printing of money ensuring devastating inflationary pressures will persist

Carney can not possibly disappoint you more than Justin Trudeau did. That's a tough failure act to follow
Carney, however is going to disappoint you

 

[Frankfooter]

so we will agree Justin Trudeau, is the incompetent Fuckhead and
we will agree Gerald Butts is still the behind the scenes driver of the liberal party

Nope, you and a couple of people can agree on that.
That's it.

 

[DesRicardo]

Can’t gamble your way out of a gambling debt.

 

[JohnLarue]

Can’t gamble your way out of a gambling debt.

do you want bet on that ?

for some strange reason the liberal party of Canada views debt , like Fred Flintstone views bet

 

[DesRicardo]

Carney can not possibly disappoint you more than Justin Trudeau did. That's a tough failure act to follow
Carney, however is going to disappoint you

I use to think this as well. But when Carney released his platform during the election, I saw the possibility of him being worse.

He should absolutely not be allowed to change the accounting practices. He would literally be charged if he did this in the corporate world.

Seeing so many people not even question this shows me Canada is too stupid. How can Liberals be so openly corrupt and be given more chances?

 

[DesRicardo]

But I'm willing to give Carney a shot because we can't keep doing the same shit and expect a better result. Mow I'm well aware that Carney is going to be running deficits, and I hate that shit. And I know people will say, "well how is Carney any different than Trudeau?"

Well he ain't the same. Not by a long shot. Yeah, he's running deficits, but he's not giving away the money to idiots like Justin did.

Yeah, he's giving money to all his investor friends instead.

That was the whole purpose of Mark Carney. To protect the interest of his and his friends investments.

 

[JohnLarue]

I use to think this as well. But when Carney released his platform during the election, I saw the possibility of him being worse.

He should absolutely not be allowed to change the accounting practices. He would literally be charged if he did this in the corporate world.

Seeing so many people not even question this shows me Canada is too stupid. How can Liberals be so openly corrupt and be given more chances?

you are correct
a budget is a plan of revenues and expenses, prepared prior to the fiscal year
the budget is suppose to ensure there is operational control over spending through out the operating year which is aligned with the original plan
producing a budget half way through the fiscal year is more of a post mortem rather than a control and risk management tool.
most of the money has already been spent

AI Overview

The Canadian federal fiscal year 2025
began on April 1, 2025, and will end on March 31, 2026. The government's Budget 2025, titled "Canada Strong," was delivered on November 4, 2025, and commits to new spending on areas like infrastructure and corporate investment, while also addressing economic uncertainty and rising costs.

there is no control / risk management half way after the fact

the other issue is Carney wants to reclassify a massive amount of operational spending as Capital spending
so he can claim an operational balanced budget

a completely intentional move to deceive the Canadian Public

no way would either would fly in the corporate world


He should absolutely not be allowed to change the accounting practices.

he is untrustworthy

 

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SuperCarney does it again!

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[Valcazar]

How many times do I have to answer the same question?

No more.
"I just really believe it and I want you to accept my feelings as truth" is an answer.
It's not a good one, but it is one.

 

[DesRicardo]

No more.
"I just really believe it and I want you to accept my feelings as truth" is an answer.
It's not a good one, but it is one.

I never asked you to accept anything.

you guys are flip floppers anyways. Who cares what you accept.

 

[Valcazar]

What have I flip flopped on?