Nonsense, he even had Danielle Smith open to carbon capture. What some people don't realize in the oilsands carbon capture has LOWERED COSTS. They now inject the steam and the exhaust from the boilers using all heat from burning gas and creating pressure to move the oil
Carney Hits It Out Of the Park
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Carney may or may not need to point to reliance on Trump to justify
construction of new oil pipelines. It will not be the first time the Liberals
sanctioned climate--destroying energy projects. Bay Du Nord was spun by Steven
Guilbeault as a deep water oil drilling project that was approved under
the condition of zero emission being achieved by 2050. If construction
of a new cross-Canada pipeline is to be approved Carny may pull the same
trick by imposition of zero emission on the project. Of course it is possible
Carney turns out to be more honest than Guilbeaut. He could just explain
to climate sheeple voters combating bogus climate change is a matter
nowhere as urgent as fighting Trump for the sake of national security.
Yes, of course, because climate change isn't real in your world, just like Putin is a good guy and Zelenskyy should be hanged, again, in your world.
Considering Bush started 10 years of war in Iraq, I think you've been hitting the kool-aid a little too much.
You better hope climate change isn't as real to Carney as you think.
That the Liberals will proceed with pipeline construction is by no means
certain at this point. Chance Carney will decide against building the
new pipeline to save the climate cannot be ruled out.
It is possible Carney will have to cater to wishes of climate activists
whose support helped him won the last election.
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Suzuki: Put away pipelines, go with grid
"A true nation-building project would be to create a renewable-powered integrated electricity grid throughout the country."
David Suzuki
May 31, 2025
It’s good to see ideas such as increasing self-sufficiency and diversifying trade partners emerging in response to U.S. attacks on Canada’s economy and threats to our sovereignty. As usual, though, the fossil fuel industry and its supporters are taking advantage of this “crisis” to push for more oil and gas infrastructure, particularly pipelines.
Expect more pipeline pushing when Prime Minister Mark Carney meets premiers in Saskatoon on June 2 — especially from Alberta, which always prioritizes the fossil fuel industry. Alberta’s leaders whine that Ottawa does nothing for the province, but choose to ignore the pipeline expansion project the federal government bought with our tax dollars — its initial $4.5 billion cost ballooning to more than $34 billion on completion in 2024 — or the massive subsidies it still offers to exorbitantly profitable fossil fuel companies.
With the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion completed — the only one that can carry Alberta bitumen to tidewater without crossing into the United States — talk has been heating up about reviving the Energy East pipeline. Even Quebec’s government, once adamantly opposed to further fossil fuel development, has signalled interest.
Prime Minister Mark Carney has also expressed support. The Conservatives made pipeline promotion a key part of their federal election platform and promised to repeal Canada’s Impact Assessment Act, under which regulators can consider projects’ environmental and social effects.
Energy East would transport diluted bitumen — almost all of it destined for export — from Alberta and Saskatchewan to port terminals in New Brunswick, crossing six provinces and the traditional territories of 180 Indigenous communities. (Thick, tarry bitumen must be diluted with a mix of gases and chemicals to allow it to flow through a pipeline, making it more toxic and volatile.) Other pipelines, including for fracked gas, have also been proposed.
That most of the bitumen from the existing Trans Mountain pipeline or an Energy East pipeline is or would be for export puts the lie to claims that more pipelines will make us more self-sufficient. Selling off all our fossil fuel resources as quickly as possible might be a way to create a short-term economic boost and some jobs, but it will eventually drive up domestic energy costs and exacerbate environmental havoc.
When we export the fuels, we don’t even have to think about the greenhouse gas emissions they’ll release when they’re burned… somewhere else. Canada doesn’t have to include those numbers in its emissions reporting.
We have far better, more cost-effective ways to increase national self-sufficiency and quality of life for everyone in Canada — and meet our international climate commitments. A true nation-building project would be to create a renewable-powered integrated electricity grid throughout the country.
Experts and organizations including the International Energy Agency state unequivocally that the world can’t afford new long-term oil and gas projects if we want to limit warming to avoid severe climate consequences. We need to move as quickly as possible to cleaner energy — that means building the infrastructure to support it.
Shifting rapidly to renewables and building a clean, connected, community-led electricity system would create immediate jobs and economic opportunities, lower utility costs, increase energy independence and give us healthier and safer land, water and air.
Expanding and locking our country into fossil fuel production, transport and use for decades to come as the world shifts to cleaner energy is a grave mistake. Much of this infrastructure could end up as stranded assets — obsolete before their time. It also keeps us chained to volatile fossil fuel markets and the whims of greedy CEOs and erratic politicians. And every bit of gas, oil or coal that we dig up and burn puts us that much closer to climate catastrophe.
The David Suzuki Foundation has produced detailed research demonstrating that Canada could have 100 per cent emissions-free electricity by 2035 “without relying on expensive and sometimes unproven and dangerous technologies like nuclear or fossil gas with carbon capture and storage.” Using wind, solar, energy storage, energy efficiency and interprovincial transmission, Canada could meet growing demand as economy-wide electrification increases.
Pipelines and polluting fuels are the past. Renewables are more efficient and cost and pollute less. With Canada’s educated population and skilled workforce, we could lead the way in showing that a rapid and just transition to clean energy is possible and beneficial.
Let’s get to work!
Suzuki: Put away pipelines, go with grids!
"A true nation-building project would be to create a renewable-powered integrated electricity grid throughout the country."
www.fitzhugh.ca
You must be what, 60 plus, I'm guessing, and you cannot tell the climate has been slowly changing??? Never mind that every scientist is telling you so, but of course, what do they know but you, no clue, no idea in your 60-plus years of being on this planet?
C'mon oil$gas, you know its real and you love the money you made from screwing over humanity.
But you know, its time for you to start paying.
Oh he knows, he's here gloating over the cash he made and how unstoppable it is now.
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pipeline but you will not support the well respected scientist Dr David
Suzuki's proposal for Carney to build a renewable energy grid in place
of a new oil pipleline. If you truly believe in climate change like Dr Suzuki
and other scientists do then shame on you.
Correct me if I am wrong. You'll support Carney's decision to build a
pipeline but you will not support the well respected scientist Dr David
Suzuki's proposal for Carney to build a renewable energy grid in place
of a new oil pipleline. If you truly believe in climate change like Dr Suzuki
and other scientists do then shame on you.
What deflection? I too will support Carney if he proceeds
with construction of a new pipeline. I want no spinning like
presenting the pipeline project as crucial to decarbonisstion.
But even if he does it won't change my support for his pipeline
decision. If you want Carney to build the pipeline we are
actually on the same side of the issue.
Carneys has come out very strongly against the oil and gas sector. You know that and are to afraid to admit it.
Wanting to build pipelines and getting stymied by others is different than lying about wanting to build them in the first place.
You can blame Obama and Biden for the XL pipeline rejection.
Harper did manage to build the Alberta Clipper pipeline.
You should be less concerned about going back a decade to when Harper left office and more concerned about the last decade under the Liberals.
Just like Trudeau? Who built a 30B pipeline and allowed oil production to grow by 25% while he was PM?
Yup Trudeau was stymied as well, so he created a whole new framework for approval and got 2 major pipelines built and the first LNG facility in Canada.
I think you see the elements of the grand bargain I have mentioned before. East -west - north energy corridor, with hydro going from Quebec and MB to SK and AB. Oil and gas heading east and north. BTW NWT has significant oil resources as well, light oil . And the Beaufort sea has potentially billions of barrels.
Carney's pipeline decision will not be judged according to how
many pipelines the Liberals and the Conservatives built in the
past.
