Carney And Smith Closer To A Pipeline Deal In North BC.

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Carney advances new Canada oil pipeline, raising climate concerns

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney signed an agreement Thursday with the western energy-producing province of Alberta to advance a new oil pipeline, sparking immediate concerns about Ottawa's commitment to battling climate change.

28/11/2025

The memorandum of understanding charts a plan for a pipeline going from Alberta to Canada's Pacific coast, to boost oil exports to Asia -- in line with Carney's goal of expanding overseas trade to offset damage from US President Donald Trump's trade war.

"At the core of the agreement, of course, is a priority to have a pipeline to Asia," Carney said ahead of the signing alongside Alberta's conservative Premier Danielle Smith.

Aside from broadening exports, the plan endorses an overall increase in Alberta oil and gas production.

The deal marked a clear pivot for Carney's Liberal Party and a departure from the policies that defined former prime minister Justin Trudeau's decade in power.

Carney's culture minister, Stephen Guilbeault -- who was Trudeau's environment minister -- resigned from the cabinet in protest over the pipeline deal hours after it was signed.

"I chose to enter politics to champion the fight against climate change," Guilbeault said in a statement.

He said he "strongly" opposed the Alberta MoU, charging it would "move Canada further away from its greenhouse gas emission targets."

Guilbeault was the architect of several Trudeau-era climate policies, measures he said were being "dismantled."

The Trudeau-Guilbeault climate policies were also partly responsible for fueling a breakdown in relations between Alberta and Ottawa.

Smith, who accused the previous Liberal government of suffocating Alberta's economic potential, took a jab at Trudeau on Thursday.

"The last 10 years have been an extremely difficult time," she said.

Carbon capture

Carney, who grew up in Alberta, has worked to improve relations with Smith, repeatedly discussing his desire to make Canada an energy superpower.

Under the plan, Ottawa also agreed to set aside an emissions cap, which has not yet come into effect.
But the prime minister -- a UN climate envoy before entering Canadian politics this year -- insisted the project will also make Canada's oil sector more sustainable.

"The way we're going to do that is in combination with the Pathways Project, which will be the largest carbon capture project in the world," Carney said.

The IPCC, the UN's expert panel on climate science, says carbon capture is one option for reducing emissions, but critics slam it as an excuse to keep burning fossil fuels.

Actual construction of a new pipeline remains far off. The plan calls for a formal project proposal to be ready by July 2026.

The memorandum of understanding mandates consultation with Indigenous groups and Indigenous co-ownership of any infrastructure.

But First Nations and Indigenous groups have often opposed large-scale oil projects.

A pipeline would also have to go through British Columbia, the west coast province currently led by a left-wing government, which was not party to Thursday's deal.

Canada stronger?

Trump's impact on the Canadian economy loomed over Thursday's announcement.

Alberta oil exports currently go to the United States, and Canadian energy products have largely been exempted from Trump's tariffs so far.

But Trump has cut off trade talks with Canada, threatening the future of the existing North American free trade agreement.

Carney has also warned that economic relations with the United States will never return to a pre-Trump normal.

Carney said Thursday's deal came "in the face of global trade shifts and profound uncertainty."

"This is a good day for Canada," the prime minister said.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-ne...anada-oil-pipeline-raising-climate-concerns-1
 

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This is a difficult thing on many levels. First, I think a majority of Canadians believe in and are concerned about climate change. But, at the same time, are we going to hobble our economy when there is still significant demand and need for our natural resources? I have been on the pipeline fence for a long time. I agree with Alberta that they need to get a connection to Asia through BC. But it gets really messy really quickly. BC doesn't want it. The First Nations don't want it. Now, I think both parties can be appeased, but the fact is, it will take some negotiations and what not to show there is a benefit to those groups.

Bottom line in my view: the pipeline is more necessary today then ever, because we don't want to be hobbled by the US who's leadership is so fucking clueless about Canada and want to encroach on our sovereignty.
 

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This is a difficult thing on many levels. First, I think a majority of Canadians believe in and are concerned about climate change. But, at the same time, are we going to hobble our economy when there is still significant demand and need for our natural resources? I have been on the pipeline fence for a long time. I agree with Alberta that they need to get a connection to Asia through BC. But it gets really messy really quickly. BC doesn't want it. The First Nations don't want it. Now, I think both parties can be appeased, but the fact is, it will take some negotiations and what not to show there is a benefit to those groups.

Bottom line in my view: the pipeline is more necessary today then ever, because we don't want to be hobbled by the US who's leadership is so fucking clueless about Canada and want to encroach on our sovereignty.
Nah, leave it in the ground.
All the tar sands are too dirty to develop and only natural gas has a temporary, transition based future.

We can spend less than we do on oil subsidies and get ourselves set for cheaper, cleaner renewables.
With a massive bonus of taking away the economic engine of oil$gas despots like Putin and MBS.

Its happening all over the world, just not in North America because of oil$gas.

 

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Read it and weep: This pipeline agreement is a document of betrayal

Arno Kopecky
November 28th 2025

For months, Prime Minister Mark Carney’s courtship of Alberta and the oil patch has been the subject of conspiratorial interpretation by his friends and foes alike. Carney’s only pretending to want a new pipeline, the story goes. But it’s all just chess: he knows BC and First Nations will never let it happen, and anyway, private industry will never commit the untold billions it would cost to build a greenfield pipeline in this day and age. The political genius, they say, is that by removing the regulatory obstacles his predecessor put in place, Carney’s taken the bullets out of all those guns that Conservatives have been firing at Ottawa for the last decade.

I half-believed it myself. It would have meant the prime minister was lying, directly and repeatedly; it would also have meant he was forcing the same First Nations who spent a generation fighting Northern Gateway to do so all over again, and pitting Alberta against BC yet again. But hey, politics is a dirty game, and that conspiratorial version of Carney seemed preferable to the alternative — that the man who spent a decade warning world leaders about stranded assets and carbon bubbles, who was a UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance, who dedicated chapters of his book to the “biblical” consequences of unchecked emissions, could just… say “fuck it.”

But he did. The only way to read the memorandum of understanding (MOU) is that Carney has meant what he’s been saying all along: he really does want this pipeline, and then some.

How to describe the laundry list of climate-killing gifts to Alberta that the MOU spells out? The depth of the betrayal goes beyond words. I felt ill as I read it. It’s not just the hard-won ground lost on climate policy, or the scale of the coming battle this document spells into view. On top of all that, there’s a sort of obscenity involved — the savage sight of a man brandishing his own abandoned values.

Let’s start with the pipeline itself.

A looming fight

Just two days before the MOU dropped, Carney declared in Question Period that “we believe the government of British Columbia has to agree. We believe that First Nations right-holders in the country have to agree.” But that language does not exist in the MOU.

Instead, Alberta commits to “offer the opportunity for Indigenous co-ownership.” The federal government and Alberta together “agree to engage meaningfully with Indigenous Peoples in both Alberta and British Columbia.” Which Indigenous Peoples, exactly, and whose co-ownership will serve to legitimize the whole affair?

It certainly won’t be the ones whose territories encompass the impact zone — the Coastal First Nations, who have been declaring their unbreakable opposition not just for the past few months, but for two decades. Most likely, they will now be pitted directly against the National Coalition of Chiefs, a pro-oil and gas group of Alberta-based First Nations who have been advocating for an Indigenous-owned Northern Gateway 2.0.

So that’ll be fun.

Nor will Carney be leaving Alberta and the oil patch to sort the whole mess out. He’s committing the federal government’s resources to join the full court press.

Nobody knows where this will go; all we know is that a protracted, ugly and divisive battle lies ahead. For my money, Coastal First Nations and their multiple allies still have the legal upper hand. They were able to beat Northern Gateway in court when that project enjoyed 10 years of intense federal support, after all, and their powers have only grown — the Haida Nation, for instance, has full Indigenous title over its lands and waters now. But the idea that Carney might stand up for their right to say no is almost laughable now. With Bill C-5, he’s given himself the power to override Indigenous rights and title for any project deemed to be in the national interest. Former prime minister Stephen Harper tried that too, with Northern Gateway. We’ll see what the courts say next time.

The pitting of First Nations against each other, and against so much of the country, is the most stomach-churning aspect of all this. But the doublespeak on climate isn’t far behind.

‘The cleanest heavy oil’

Alberta’s press release promises to deliver the cleanest heavy oil on the planet,” which is like calling menthol cigarettes the best way to get lung cancer. According to Carney’s new logic, Alberta’s bitumen will be cleaned by the Pathways Alliance's massive carbon capture and storage project. The MOU makes clear that any new pipeline is predicated on carbon capture, and vice versa — the two come together, or neither comes at all. That project hopes to bury 10 to12 million tonnes of carbon dioxide a year. But a new pipeline moving a million-barrels per day would release over 150 million tonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, once all that oil is burned.

In other words, a new pipeline would produce around 15 times more carbon dioxide than the Pathways Alliance could capture in a best-case scenario.

There’s no better argument against carbon capture than using it to sell a pipeline.

Dead regulations

Of course, it’s entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that these are both pipe dreams and neither one will happen. In that case, will Alberta and Ottawa simply have wasted an extraordinary amount of time, energy and political capital to divide provinces and much of the country over a debate that already tore Canada apart once, just 10 years ago?

No! Far from it. Even without a pipeline, Alberta will still walk away with a pair of dead regulations it’s long been demanding that Ottawa kill. No more clean electricity regulations, and no more oil and gas emissions cap — in exchange for an industrial carbon price that Alberta already agreed to in 2015 under the last grand bargain, and which it’s ignored ever since, despite the Supreme Court ruling that Ottawa had the jurisdiction to implement it.

Perhaps the biggest question is, how does Carney sell this to himself? Even aside from all of the above, Carney has just created a shitstorm in his own party: former environment minister Stephen Guilbeault announced his resignation within hours of the MOU going public, and there are multiple Liberal MPs, from BC and beyond, who are undoubtedly going to push back.

But maybe there’s another set of numbers that Carney is eyeing, and that’s the 42 per cent of votes that went to Conservatives in April. All of a sudden, there are high-profile, small-C conservatives across the land who are applauding this surprising new prime minister. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s goose just got even more cooked — his whole “Just. Get. Out. Of. The. Way.” shtick seems to have worked in the same way that getting Trudeau to resign before the election worked.

Poilievre may still lead the Official Opposition. But everyone knows who the real Conservative leader is now.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2025/11/27/analysis/pipeline-agreement-alberta-ottawa
 

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Liberals call departing Guilbeault a ‘great guy’ but say ‘world has changed’

Nov 28, 2025

OTTAWA — Liberals had nice things to say about their colleague Steven Guilbeault, who resigned from cabinet on Thursday over the Ottawa-Alberta roadmap for a proposed new oil pipeline but they tempered his criticism of the deal which he “strongly” opposes.

Speaking to reporters in Halifax on Friday, Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne called Guilbeault a “great friend” and said he “has contributed in many ways to our country and will continue to do so” as he remains a member of the Liberal caucus.

But Champagne went on to explain the importance of the deal struck with Alberta, which he said will ensure that Canada can be a “responsible and sustainable energy producer.”

“I think Canadians understand the world has changed,” he said.

Guilbeault resigned as minister of culture and Canadian identity and minister responsible for official languages, but also as the Liberals’ lieutenant for Quebec. The government had no immediate plans to replace him in his various roles on Friday.

Guilbeault wrote in his statement published on Thursday that he appreciates Canada’s relationship with the United States has shifted, leading to profound changes in the economy, but said he remains “one of those for whom environmental issues must remain front and centre.”

“That is why I strongly oppose the Memorandum of understanding between the federal government and the government of Alberta,” he wrote on X.

He slammed his government for failing to consult with British Columbia’s government and with coastal First Nations on the West Coast, as well as for rolling back climate policies that he put in place when he was minister of the environment under Justin Trudeau.

Prime Minister Mark Carney released his own statement on X, saying he has been “deeply grateful” for Guilbeault’s counsel and said his government “shares his fundamental commitment to climate ambition and climate competitiveness for Canada.”

“While we may have differing views at times on how exactly we make essential progress, I am glad Steven will continue to offer his important perspectives as a Member of Parliament in our Liberal caucus,” Carney wrote.

Liberal MPs downplayed the divisions in their caucus over this new deal with Alberta.

“We’re absolutely unified. There’s all kinds of room for all kinds of different opinions in our caucus. There always has been,” said Sean Casey. “So, I have absolutely no concerns about the health of the caucus and the state of unity. None, whatsoever.”

Peter Fragiskatos said the Liberal caucus is in his view “quite unified.”

“There are always discussions, and I certainly wish Steven Guilbeault well. Steven’s a great guy, a very good colleague, and we’ll continue to work together,” he said.

Casey said Guilbeault has “dedicated his life to climate issues, and it’s completely understandable that he would stand on that principle.”
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“Does that mean that there’s a cancer spreading through the caucus? Absolutely not.”

It is not unusual for Liberal MPs to publicly disagree with government policy. However, Carney’s deal with Alberta has made him vulnerable to his more progressive flank and is causing unrest in his B.C. caucus. — some MPs fear losing their seats.

“I think many of them are deeply concerned with the change of direction that this government has taken,” said B.C. NDP MP Jenny Kwan.

She said lifting the tanker ban, even partially, would have “deep implications” for British Columbians and coastal communities.

Liberal MP Charles Sousa insisted that Guilbeault is “not leaving caucus — he’s just finding it difficult for himself.”

Sousa also suggested that the dust will eventually settle on this issue. “I believe, as time proceeds, we’ll come to appreciate and recognize that any agreement between Alberta and B.C. and Indigenous peoples needs to be worked out too,” he said.

“So, we’ll see what happens next, but I believe caucus is supportive of doing what’s in the best interest of Canadians.”

Guilbeault’s resignation came up in Friday’s question period, with the Bloc Québécois wondering if the federal government could also impose a pipeline on Quebec and Conservatives showcasing the cracks into the Liberal caucus over the deal.

“The Liberal caucus is only cracking open wide enough to welcome Conservatives to come join us,” shot back Justice Minister Sean Fraser, referring to the recent floor-crossing of former Conservative MP Chris d’Entremont to the Liberal benches.

When asked what he says to progressives who, like Guilbeault, are disappointed by the government’s plan build a proposed pipeline, Casey said: “Give it time.”

He then said the quiet part out loud.

“The MOU does not mean that there will necessarily be a pipeline. There’s a pathway to a pipeline that involves all the checks and balances that will keep those voters happy.”

 

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“I think Canadians understand the world has changed,” he said.

Time has changed for good for climate sheeple Canadians. They now understand
net-zero emission sucks; fossil fuel rules.
 
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despite having the authority and the responsibility to approve a pipeline, Carney will let David Eby or a first nations chief block it

the only way the shovels will start moving dirt on this pipeline is via a majority conservative federal government
PP would just try to ram it through and the backlash would be immense. Carney is a master negotiator and has balanced this proposal so it moves oil, appeases the eco people with sequestration, requires approval by native groups and B.C., keeps Alberta in Canada, encourages corporate investment, makes Smith smile and helps diversify our energy from US reliance. And even if it fails to materialize, Carney doesn't take the blame. Brilliant deall
 
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