Car tints

[Jubee]

The city needs to start cracking down on this shit it's getting impossible to see the car ahead of you for traffic. It's how good drivers do, you look ahead and now you can see past 15 feet and same for the sides.
The fuck going on here? Why don't police pull* these fuckers over, measure the percentage of the transmission and peel the fuckers off right on the spot.

 

[drstrangelove]

The city needs to start cracking down on this shit it's getting impossible to see the car ahead of you for traffic. It's how good drivers do, you look ahead and now you can see past 15 feet and same for the sides.
The fuck going on here? Why don't police pool these fuckers over, measure the percentage of the transmission and peel the fuckers off right on the spot.

This has been a pet peeve of mine for years. I recently conducted a very unofficial survey and determined that about 10% of vehicles have overly tinted windows. I wrote to the Department of Transportation and the Attorney General's office. The AG responded with nonsensical bs then said it was up to local police departments to decide which laws to enforce. DOT didn't bother to respond.

 

[tml]

While they're at it they can do something about the blinding head lights that some vehicles have these days.

 

[xix]

What would happen if the license plate was recorded and a letter sent to MOT / DOT ( US) and the police department?
Then your local politician.

 

[xix]

The city needs to start cracking down on this shit it's getting impossible to see the car ahead of you for traffic. It's how good drivers do, you look ahead and now you can see past 15 feet and same for the sides.
The fuck going on here? Why don't police pull* these fuckers over, measure the percentage of the transmission and peel the fuckers off right on the spot.

I learn to offset myself from tinted car at traffic stops. And also at night and when it rains I see on the ground the break lights of the car ahead of the one that is ahead of me. Also I use the glass of buildings to see a reflection.
The amount of time I have to honk to tinted vehicles with driver on their cell phone is unbelievable.

 

[SchlongConery]

Same with deliberately dark license plate covers and 30 year old rusty, faded, unreadable plates on new(er) cars.

Why not pull them over? Because cops are lazy, unless targeting/profiling someone (black) in particular.

 

[Jubee]

I learn to offset myself from tinted car at traffic stops. And also at night and when it rains I see on the ground the break lights of the car ahead of the one that is ahead of me. Also I use the glass of buildings to see a reflection.
The amount of time I have to honk to tinted vehicles with driver on their cell phone is unbelievable.

Yep, same, any edge I can get.

 

[Jubee]

Same with deliberately dark license plate covers and 30 year old rusty, faded, unreadable plates on new(er) cars.

Why not pull them over? Because cops are lazy, unless targeting/profiling someone (black) in particular.

How will they know if they can't see inside the car? lol

 

[Jubee]

While they're at it they can do something about the blinding head lights that some vehicles have these days.

If they're oncoming, I beam me up type shit and hit my high beams to let them know their lights aren't appreciated at all, or flick the rear view down if I have to.

 

[pepecash]

if u get pulled over for tints, its only a $110 ticket. same for the dark plate covers / unreadable plates

 

[escortsxxx]

If you want action on this file, its complicated but can be done.
First all correspondence should be a Public letter, as said carbon copied to concerned parties, podcasts, you-tubers, politicians, journalists, police chief etc.

That is where you start . . . if you get lucky you get some kind of viral effect early and all the issues that involves.

Even very viable issues sometimes takes years to get anything done and even then off ten is just another law that will not be enforced. On the other hand drink and driving used to be legal so major changes do happen with that annoying Ride program. It would not be hard to ad tint check to the Ride program as enforcement.

 

[K Douglas]

The legit tint places won't over tint the legal limit. At least in my experience.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I am a huge fan of tints though.
Like 100% black tints.
Feels so good inside with the privacy etc.,
But I get your point.

 

[Andreiboris01]

This has been a pet peeve of mine for years. I recently conducted a very unofficial survey and determined that about 10% of vehicles have overly tinted windows. I wrote to the Department of Transportation and the Attorney General's office. The AG responded with nonsensical bs then said it was up to local police departments to decide which laws to enforce. DOT didn't bother to respond.

Because DOT is NOT enforcement. They have no way of verifying your complaint.

 

[drstrangelove]

Because DOT is NOT enforcement. They have no way of verifying your complaint.

Technically they are responsible for policing provincial roads, enforced by the OPP.

A bigger contributor to this tint problem is the lack of a clear determination of what is legal/illegal. In Quebec, the limit is 70% allowable transmission of light, in Ontario it's only legal mumbo jumbo dealing with obstructed views, apparently leaving it up to LEOs discretion.

 

[Andreiboris01]

Technically they are responsible for policing provincial roads, enforced by the OPP.

A bigger contributor to this tint problem is the lack of a clear determination of what is legal/illegal. In Quebec, the limit is 70% allowable transmission of light, in Ontario it's only legal mumbo jumbo dealing with obstructed views, apparently leaving it up to LEOs discretion.

Department of transportation? No they are not. Police polices the streets. Ministry of Trasnportation passes law/regulation, renews licences etc.

Lack of clear determination what is legal or illegal?

Please read Highway Traffic Act before making assumptions

Section:
73(3) of Ontario Highway Traffic Act. The VLT rate or Visible Light Transmission rate of the vehicle's front and side windows should be 70% or higher. This means that the darkness of the tint cannot be more than 30%

Basicly in Ontario windshield and side windows directly to left and right of driver cannot have any tint applied legally. By nature an UNtinted glass already from factory reduces 15-25% light transmission with a meter.
Any tint applied including "legal" 30% is illegal as it will reduce way more light than 30%. Most readings of 30% tint would read 70% light reduced with a meter.

Back seats side glass and rear (hatch) glass can be any tint reading legally.

Also side view windows to driver cannot be obstructed. This is to be easily seen by LE in a traffic stop and possibly other drivers while driving as to see intent and state.

 

[GameBoy27]

Department of transportation? No they are not. Police pilices the streets. Ministry of Trasnportation passes law, renews licences etc.

Lack of clear determination what is legal or legal?
Please read Highway Traffic Act before making assumptions

Section:
73(3) of Ontario Highway Traffic Act. The VLT rate or Visible Light Transmission rate of the vehicle's front and side windows should be 70% or higher. This means that the darkness of the tint cannot be more than 30%

Basicly in Ontario windshield and side windows directly to left and right of driver cannot have any tint applied legally. By nature an UNtinted glass already from factory reduces 15-25% light transmission with a meter.
Any tint applied including "legal" 30% is illegal as it will reduce way more light than 30%. Most readings of 30% tint would read 70% light reduced with a meter.

Back seats side glass and rear (hatch) glass can be any tint reading legally.

Also side view windows to driver cannot be obstructed. This is to be easily seen by LE in a traffic stop and possibly other drivers while driving as to see intent and state.

Thanks, I was just about to point out out all that. Main point being, it's completely legal to have the rear window of any vehicle 100% obstructed. That's what your side view mirrors are for. So those of you who are complaining about this, are wasting your time.

Heavily tinted side windows (L&R of driver) are both dangerous and illegal.

 

[Telebass]

Thanks, I was just about to point out out all that. Main point being, it's completely legal to have the rear window of any vehicle 100% obstructed. That's what your side view mirrors are for. So those of you who are complaining about this, are wasting your time.

Heavily tinted side windows (L&R of driver) are both dangerous and illegal.

Reinforced by the fact that panel vans (vans without side or rear windows) are legal. There is an easy work-around. Don’t tailgate.

 

[Indiana]

 

[drstrangelove]

Department of transportation? No they are not. Police polices the streets. Ministry of Trasnportation passes law/regulation, renews licences etc.

Lack of clear determination what is legal or illegal?

Please read Highway Traffic Act before making assumptions

Section:
73(3) of Ontario Highway Traffic Act. The VLT rate or Visible Light Transmission rate of the vehicle's front and side windows should be 70% or higher. This means that the darkness of the tint cannot be more than 30%

Basicly in Ontario windshield and side windows directly to left and right of driver cannot have any tint applied legally. By nature an UNtinted glass already from factory reduces 15-25% light transmission with a meter.
Any tint applied including "legal" 30% is illegal as it will reduce way more light than 30%. Most readings of 30% tint would read 70% light reduced with a meter.

Back seats side glass and rear (hatch) glass can be any tint reading legally.

Also side view windows to driver cannot be obstructed. This is to be easily seen by LE in a traffic stop and possibly other drivers while driving as to see intent and state.

Interesting. Try looking up the role of the DOT before criticizing someone. I didn't make up my statement.

Also, when I google your referenced section, this is what I get:

Colour coating obscuring interior

(3) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle on which the surface of the windshield or of any window to the direct left or right of the driver’s seat has been coated with any coloured spray or other coloured or reflective material that substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 73 (3).

Where did you find the 70% reference?