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Can't wait to see this movie by Michael Moore

Cobster

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Haven't seen, Bowling for Columbine, or Roger & Me...

buttt, hearing this guy in interviews and snipits from papers, i like this guy.

Read an article I was doing for school, dated February 7 2004 and it talked about his newest movie set to be released this summer...

http://www.rense.com/general36/mel.htm

Fahrenheit 911
911 for obvious reasons
and Fahrenheit 451 the book about censorship.

Gotta love this guy standing up to corporate right wing America.
 

MojoRisin'

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Bowling for Columbine

CC its an awsome movie bud! very emotional and thought provoking...go out and rent it now!.it blew me away! Scarey but real life unfortunately.watch what he does to Charleton Heston...lmfao
 

MojoRisin'

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sounds every bit as enlightening and hard hitting..cant wait to see it too
 

Cobster

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Mojo no kidding, me neither and ya i gotta see Bowling for Columbine

Did you read the part in that link that says

Moore has put a year's worth of research into the film. He'll finish it in time to be submitted for Cannes, 2004, and released in time for the presidential election that fall.

Perfect timing for the election lol

Hopefully Kerry will win.
 

ocean976124

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OK, so the Bush's did business with a guy who had like 20 sons and one of them ended up being Osama binLadin and that somehow makes Bush an evil person? I'm not sure I follow. I'm friends with a man who's son ended up being a drug dealer and is now in jail. Does that mean I'm some how responsible for the drug problem in America?
 

Cobster

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No, but if you made or had any business dealings with him, you may have contributed to his problem, in turn, whatever problems he created or imposed on people.... vicious cycle isn't it :)
 

Cinema Face

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Hey, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. We certainly need people like Michael Moore to voice a counter-establishment opinion. We need people who challenge the status quo.

However, when you go into a rant at the ocsars like he did, you only look like an idiot and you ruin your own credibility.

I’ve heard this stuff about the bin Ladins and the Bush’s before. Both are rich, well connected families. I’m sure they both know and do business with many people all over the world. This proves nothing. If that’s all Moore has to go on, then he’s full of shit.

Osama is a renegade son who has been kicked out of the family and the country and he doesn’t represent the rest of his family.
 

Cobster

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Thanks Cute Cob, I luuuuuv you!
you mean that's all it had to take?

damn...shoulda done this much earlier
:D
 

pool

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ocean976124 said:
I'm friends with a man who's son ended up being a drug dealer and is now in jail. Does that mean I'm some how responsible for the drug problem in America?
About as much as bowling and/or Marilyn Manson were responsible for the killings in Columbine.

It seems that, like 'roger and me' & 'bowling for C', it will likely raise more questions. It's looking a little conspiracy theorist at this point, but will be interesting, no doubt.

PS I actually thought that the rabbit woman was very resourceful in utilising capitalism just as GM had done. Not to mention, in touch with reality in relation to the rabbits role as a valuable life, yet also as a recourse of income and food.

PSS cutecob is also right :confused:
 

Cobster

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How so pool?
 

Homo Erectus

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Michael Moore's books are also worth reading. Stupid White Men and Hey Dude Where's My Country are very insightful and entertaining.
 

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While I did find both Roger & Me and Bowling for Columbine entertaining and they did raise some interesting questions, you still have to take everything Moore does with a grain of salt. He's not making documentaries which are unbiased, he sets out with an agenda and makes sure he proves it.

Like in Bowling for Colubmine, what does Lockheed transporting missiles through the streets in the middle of the night have to do with anything? Its common sense: the streets are less busy and therefore it will be easier to transport them at that time than in the middle of the day.

Or his complaining about the NRA Convention being held so closely after the Columbine shootings. This is a major convention and is planned well in advance. Thousands of people come from all over to attend, pumping millions into the economy. They're just supposed to cancel or reschedule at the drop of a hat? We saw what happened to the Toronto economy with SARS, a similar effect would have been had if the NRA had cancelled.

Like I said, I enjoy his movies and his books, but never forget that he's pushing an agenda.
 

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Here is Moore's very funny and insightful Oscars speech:

"On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this. I have invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to - they're here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction. We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or fiction of orange alerts we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much."
 

tompeepin

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Cinema Face said:
Hey, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. We certainly need people like Michael Moore to voice a counter-establishment opinion. We need people who challenge the status quo.

However, when you go into a rant at the ocsars like he did, you only look like an idiot and you ruin your own credibility.
Exactly! We need people who question, NOT SHEEP!!!

I liked his rant at the Oscars. Free speech is better than smug self-righteousness.

However, Michel Moore is as biased to his worldview and partisan as Ann Coulter is to her's. He will use whatever tactics he can to make his point. But at least he is humorous! :D

Humour, challenging the status quo ... now how can you not like that?

I am pretty sure that the Bush family did not pay Osama to do what he did. But they are in tight with the rich Saudis who if anyone did, they did sponsor the terrorists. America is increasingly distancing itself from Saudi Arabia, but the Bush family even if they seem to go along with it have too much self-interest in their personal investments with rich top Saudis [Carlyle Group, Texas oil, etc]. It is a fine line for the Bush family now.

Why when the US air space was closed on the first couple of days after 9/11, to even to top US officials I mean closed down tight, did Bush allow many planes containing top Saudis to leave the US, when it was known that 15 of the 19 suicide hijackers were Saudi nationals?
 

The Shake

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tompeepin said:
However, Michel Moore is as biased to his worldview and partisan as Ann Coulter is to her's. He will use whatever tactics he can to make his point. But at least he is humorous! :D
I enjoy the work of both Moore and Coulter. I've never understood people who only want to read books / watch films that support their own POV.
 

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The Shake said:
I enjoy the work of both Moore and Coulter. I've never understood people who only want to read books / watch films that support their own POV.
I agree!!! But I like laughing along to Moore's stuff more than laughing at Ann's hysterics. He is definitely more entertaining. But hey, that is just me.
 

The Shake

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tompeepin said:
I agree!!! But I like laughing along to Moore's stuff more than laughing at Ann's hysterics. He is definitely more entertaining. But hey, that is just me.
I think we find humour in similiar places. I'm not sure if you should find much comfort in that, though. ;)
 
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