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Frankfooter

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You claimed weather disasters are getting worse due to climate change.
Do you deny making this claim?

Roger Pielke says there is no evidence to support this
That's not what he says, total mischaracterization.
Pielke Jr (not to be confused with Sr) argues poorly that attribution is low for some types of extreme weather events.
Pielke Jr has a phd in political science, not in climatology or science.

Pielke tries to argue that the costs of damages from hurricanes has risen only because property prices have risen, despite new buildings going up with more stringent hurricane proof building codes.

Fivethirtyeight published Pielke Jr when they were first starting out but they had to apologize for posting the article after errors in Pielke's work was noted. After all, 538 is supposed to be good stats/good math. Posting shoddy work is against their mandate.

 
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JohnLarue

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Your views on Mann are subjective, and opinion. You see the irony. I say I am not their peers and cannot judge. You say anyone who disagrees with you is an activist.
No I say anyone who dicks with the data and publishes false hockey sticks is a fraud

Now I have to look up satellite data with regards to climate. Challenge accepted.

Oh look. You are wrong again.


Your former hero Roger Pielke Jr. was pretty clear when he stated there is no evidence for increased wild fires due tp climate change
I guess you will just throw him under the bus now that he is no longer useful to your argument cause

Odd how the acreage burned in the US has declined

The USDA Forest Service in their Historical Overview (p7) finds that the US “forest area has been relatively stable since 1910” – if anything slightly increasing since 1910 (which would help push up the burnt area slightly).”



 

poker

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No I say anyone who dicks with the data and publishes false hockey sticks is a fraud


Your former hero Roger Pielke Jr. was pretty clear when he stated there is no evidence for increased wild fires due tp climate change
I guess you will just throw him under the bus now that he is no longer useful to your argument cause

Odd how the acreage burned in the US has declined

The USDA Forest Service in their Historical Overview (p7) finds that the US “forest area has been relatively stable since 1910” – if anything slightly increasing since 1910 (which would help push up the burnt area slightly).”



Are we comparing fire fighting capabilities from the 1920’s to 2020 to prove climate change is a hoax? Ooops. Poked a hole in your theory.

Maybe we should find out how many people were on ventilators during the Spanish flu or great plague to see which was worse?
 

JohnLarue

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from your article

These changes are expected if Earth is in radiative balance, and they are consistent with the role of greenhouse gases in climate change.

The underlying assumption is climate is in equilibrium except for the 0.01% increase in CO2
Too bad the climate is chaotic as per the IPCC,
Chaotic means unpredictable


The climate is impacted by many, different effects , jet streams , Hadley cells , ocean currents , solar intensity, the orbit of the planet, the planets rotation cloud formation, convection to name a few
All of which may have interactive effects on other inputs
Many of these same inputs are not well defined or understood eg( Cloud formation is not well defined / understood)


We know climate continuous changes (multiple ice ages)

So the expectation of constant radiative balance is flawed and some might say absurd
Radiative balance also a underlying assumption in the flawed climate models
The same models which run too hot and are the basis for all the catastrophe climate predictions propaganda


A word of advise
Look for words such as "Maybe, possibly, could, may, if, , possibly, hopefully, .... ect" when evaluating an article
 

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from your article




The underlying assumption is climate is in equilibrium except for the 0.01% increase in CO2
Too bad the climate is chaotic as per the IPCC,
Chaotic means unpredictable


The climate is impacted by many, different effects , jet streams , Hadley cells , ocean currents , solar intensity, the orbit of the planet, the planets rotation cloud formation, convection to name a few
All of which may have interactive effects on other inputs
Many of these same inputs are not well defined or understood eg( Cloud formation is not well defined / understood)


We know climate continuous changes (multiple ice ages)

So the expectation of constant radiative balance is flawed and some might say absurd
Radiative balance also a underlying assumption in the flawed climate models
The same models which run too hot and are the basis for all the catastrophe climate predictions propaganda


A word of advise
Look for words such as "Maybe, possibly, could, may, if, , possibly, hopefully, .... ect" when evaluating an article
That was all it said huh? What’s the word I am looking for?

carbon is increasing. The temperature is increasing. I believe that is also what it said.
 

JohnLarue

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Are we comparing fire fighting capabilities from the 1920’s to 2020 to prove climate change is a hoax? Ooops. Poked a hole in your theory

Maybe we should find out how many people were on ventilators during the Spanish flu or great plague to see which was worse?
sure fire fighting capabilities have likely improved and maybe responsible for some of the decline in acreage burned
You can not isolate that impact, so there is no evidence to support the claim the fires are driven by climate change and certainly no evidence to claim they are getting worse, as the bottom line result (acreage burned) is down significantly

So there is no escalating emergency as your propaganda piece portrays

that was a good one
I had to ponder that for 5 minutes before responding
 

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sure fire fighting capabilities have likely improved and maybe responsible for some of the decline in acreage burned
You can not isolate that impact, so there is no evidence to support the claim the fires are driven by climate change and certainly no evidence to claim they are getting worse, as the bottom line result (acreage burned) is down significantly

So there is no escalating emergency as your propaganda piece portrays

that was a good one
I had to ponder that for 5 minutes before responding
I appreciate the props.
 

JohnLarue

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That was all it said huh? What’s the word I am looking for?
You certainly are not looking for "Scientific Evidence"
Go look up equilibrium

carbon is increasing. The temperature is increasing. I believe that is also what it said.
The temperature is increasing. not increasing in the atmosphere as per the satellite data

the satellite data is verified against two separate independent weather balloon data sets of the atmosphere
The atmosphere -- You know that place where greenhouse gasses hang out and do their supposed dirty work

if you are hanging your hat on the surface temp data set, there is a whole slew of issues with that dataset
It is a mess and is probably a better measure of urbanization rates than of planetary temperature
 
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Frankfooter

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"La Belle Province, with its anti-hijab law,"

To be fair, Quebec wants to be a secular society. That law applies to everybody and all religions.
At least in Quebec they fight to preserve their culture and history
 
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