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Canadian postal union gives stamp of approval to Gaza blockade-running mail mission

flubadub

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I am trying to remember. how much mail has Hamas allowed to get through to Shalit. Oh yea. Now I remember. None. I assume you deplore that as well. I also assume that that is why you mentioned prisoners in North America.
Oh I see, Palestinians in Gaza are only deserving of the same rights as prisoner of war, Shalit?
So you're saying all Gaza residents are prisoners of war?
 

toguy5252

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Oh I see, Palestinians in Gaza are only deserving of the same rights as prisoner of war, Shalit?
So you're saying all Gaza residents are prisoners of war?
LOL. You/clown are so predictable. You compare the Gazans to prisoners in North America who to you rightly get mail but of course prisoners in Gaza should not be so entitled. Hence your intentional reference to North American prisoners rather than simply prisoners.

Probably best get back to defending the Lebanese army.

You are pathetic.
 

flubadub

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LOL. You/clown are so predictable. You compare the Gazans to prisoners in North America who to you rightly get mail but of course prisoners in Gaza should not be so entitled. Hence your intentional reference to North American prisoners rather than simply prisoners.

Probably best get back to defending the Lebanese army.

You are pathetic.
But I see you have no problem defining the entire population of Gaza as prisoners.
That's the real issue.

And your defence of it, now that I would call pathetic.
 

toguy5252

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But I see you have no problem defining the entire population of Gaza as prisoners.
That's the real issue.

And your defense of it, now that I would call pathetic.
I don't agree that they are prisoners and if Gaza is a prison then it is the responsibility of Hamas. I know and now you will produce the Cameron quote. You just refuse to admit the distinction between life in Gaza and life in the West Bank. That is not to say that things in the West Bank could not improve but still night and day compared to Gaza.

Hamas are terrorists and recognized by most of the world other than you and your friends. Even the PA regards as such. When terror end things improve. Not really a difficult concept.

From your/clown's favorite resource:

"Every step taken, be it part of classical warfare or economic warfare, aims to bring the other side to do what we want it to do. We want Hamas to stop launching rockets at our citizens. We have no desire to punish the civilian population [in Gaza]," he said. "As an indirect result, the civilian population does suffer, and that is why we have checked the legality [of the blockade]. We've consulted with the attorney general and with the Supreme Court, and found that it is legal and permitted."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...general-gaza-blockade-entirely-legal-1.310346

The Palestinian Authority has arrested dozens of Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants in the West Bank over the past two weeks, a PA source told Haaretz on Wednesday.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...islamic-jihad-militants-in-west-bank-1.310200


You should probably stick to defending the Lebanese army.
 

flubadub

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Hamas are no angels, probably war criminals according to Goldstone et al, but do represent the population of Gaza and do apparently spend 80% of their budget on charitable endeavours. On top of that, they have suspened all rockets for a good chunk of time, yet are still suffering punishment from Israel. In fact the punishment started as soon as Hamas was elected, with Israel immediately withholding funding Hamas was due to receive. On top of that, Israel commits state terrorism on a pretty regular basis, so the terrorism charge is hypocritical at the very least.

The punishment of Gaza, and the turning of it into the worlds largest prison camp, however, is only the doing of Israel. All charges of 'crimes against humanity' levelled by Goldstone and the UN put Israel full to blame.
 

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...they have suspened all rockets for a good chunk of time, yet are still suffering punishment from Israel...
Possibly the funniest line in Politics and... today. Now I know you're just talking extreme for effect.
 

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The Government of Canada, for example, recognizes that Hamas is a terrorist organization. Providing funding to terrorist organizations is criminal.
 

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They should concentrate on delivering the mail

The posties should concentrate on delivering mail in Canada. There is a lot of room for improvement. I don't see them opposing the stioning of the woman in Iran or trying to deliver mail to Darfur. Sort of tell you where they are coming from.
 

toguy5252

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Hamas are no angels, probably war criminals according to Goldstone et al, but do represent the population of Gaza and do apparently spend 80% of their budget on charitable endeavours. On top of that, they have suspened all rockets for a good chunk of time, yet are still suffering punishment from Israel. In fact the punishment started as soon as Hamas was elected, with Israel immediately withholding funding Hamas was due to receive. On top of that, Israel commits state terrorism on a pretty regular basis, so the terrorism charge is hypocritical at the very least.

The punishment of Gaza, and the turning of it into the worlds largest prison camp, however, is only the doing of Israel. All charges of 'crimes against humanity' levelled by Goldstone and the UN put Israel full to blame.
They must have forgotten to tell the Thai farmer who was killed in March or the Jordanian who was killed in August about the suspension of rockets.

That 80% figure you/clown keep quoting is ridiculous. You characterize all government expenditures which are not for the military as charitable. I guess the Canadian government spends 98.7% on charity (military expenditures equaled 1.3% of GDP in 2008).

You are pathetic.
 

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Good thing they are not let deliver mail. Just think of all the paper planes that would be made and sent to attack Israel. All the paper cuts that have been saved. They might even make spit balls out of the paper.
 

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The Government of Canada, for example, recognizes that Hamas is a terrorist organization. Providing funding to terrorist organizations is criminal.
And apparently the Government of Canada now supports the jailing of child soldiers. And we've established that Israel also is a terrorist state.
That doesn't give anyone the right to commit 'crimes against humanity' or other war crimes against a civilian population, just because the people elected someone you don't like.
 

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And apparently the Government of Canada now supports the jailing of child soldiers. And we've established that Israel also is a terrorist state.
That doesn't give anyone the right to commit 'crimes against humanity' or other war crimes against a civilian population, just because the people elected someone you don't like.
The most recent crime against the Palestinian people. Deplorable. Outrageous. Inexcusable.

From your favorite source.

"Israel is trying in dozens of ways to achieve its goal, and now it is through negotiations," Haniyeh added, saying that next upcoming negotiations were the latest in a long list of Israeli crimes against the Palestinian people.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...usalem-in-direct-mideast-peace-talks-1.310579
 

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... And we've established that ...
Just because you managed to convince yourself doesn't mean anything has been established.


p.s. If Israel is guilty of jailing child soldiers, who is responsible for training and using these child soldiers in the first place?
 

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Too many damn prior posts to read them all.

I am almost positive that my Canada Post carrier has a second job. I heard that carriers are assigned a territory that takes like 3 hours to complete but is treated as an 8 hour job. Work 3 hours, get paid for 8 hours.
 

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toguy5252

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You must have forgotten about the other artcle from the Globe print addition which you psoted in another thread.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1688191/

The international media portray Mr. Netanyahu’s government as “hard line,” but examining its actions shows a different picture. The current Israeli government is the most dovish since Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination 15 years ago. Mr. Netanyahu has been reluctant to use military force, and has slowed settlement growth. Security and economic co-operation with Mr. Abbas’s Palestinian Authority is as strong as ever, while Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad is making progress in his bottom-up state-building progress.
You/clown are patheic.
 

flubadub

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Two articles, two different opinions.
Imagine that.

What I find sad is that the Globe will only publish the pro-Israeli side on paper, stifling debate and information.
 
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