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Canadian group’s decision to honour Nazi pilot at women’s aviation event draws fire

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MONTREAL – A Canadian organization that promotes women in aviation is facing criticism from a Jewish rights group and questions from sponsors after deciding this year to honour a pioneering helicopter pilot who was also a notorious Nazi.

“Let’s Swirl. 80 Years of Female Helicopter Pilots,” reads the theme for this year’s Women of Aviation Worldwide Week. “Hanna Reitsch, first woman to pilot a helicopter, 1937.”

The short biography on the event’s website mentions that Reitsch, who died in 1979, became a test pilot in Germany in 1937, flew an Fa 61 helicopter that year, and in later life established gliding schools in India and Ghana.

But it leaves out the war years of 1939-45, when Reitsch was a Luftwaffe test pilot and personal favourite of Adolf Hitler, who awarded her the Iron Cross for b**********y.

Though she was the first woman to pilot a helicopter, her most famous flight may have been a trip in the final days of the Second World War, when she came under Red Army fire as she landed in the heart of Berlin on a mission to take the new head of the Luftwaffe, Robert Ritter von Greim, to Hitler’s bunker.

She spent two days inside the bunker before flying out with von Greim and was one of the last people to see Hitler alive before he killed himself.

After being captured by the Americans, Reitsch reportedly said she regretted not having died at Hitler’s side and told her interrogators: “We should all kneel down in reverence and prayer before the altar of the Fatherland.”

Steven Slimovitch, legal counsel for B’nai Brith’s League for Human Rights, called the choice of Reitsch to promote the aviation week unacceptable.

“As far as they’re concerned, the fact that she was an incredible pilot, that’s sufficient for them,” he said. “The fact that she appeared in Nazi propaganda in the ’30s and ’40s, that doesn’t seem to bother them too much.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...azi-pilot-at-womens-aviation-event-draws-fire
 

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She also test-piloted the first jet fighter for the Luftwaffe.

Stupid of the event director's to leave out the war stuff; they've just made the predictable controversy all the worse. If they couldn't find a way to address it honestly while praising her undoubted skills as a pilot, they should have accepted that the balance was not in her favour and picked someone else to honour.

Now they've set up their own occasion as a focus for animosity, settling old scores and misdirected contemporary politics.
 

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The sponsoring organization announced they have withdrawn their plan to honour her.
 

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Oh c'mon. If Barenboim had programmed the Horst Wessel Leid — which is quite tuneful, as I'm sure you're aware — you'd have a valid comparison. Or if he'd sneaked Hitler's favourite composer onto the programme unannounced.

All your example shows is that any sizable audience will have its share of fools who overvalue voicing their opinions to the detriment of others. Sometimes they're part of the show.

Which in no way invalidates the opinions themselves, that music once forced on death camp victims is inappropriate for audiences of their relatives and descendants. Just defines those who bought tickets intending disruption into inarguable boors.

There's little or no parallel to the clumsy handling of this event and the organizers infantile attempt to conceal what they didn't like about their hero.
 

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And here I though this was an event to honour women's achievements in aviation,...???


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This is the almost sterotypical argument as to whether or not it is fair to compartmentalize. In this case the non-compartimentalists have won (she was a Nazi, hence we can't honour her aviation achievements). Yet the compartimentalists have thus far clearly won in the discussion of Charles Lindbergh (who was an ardent supporter of American First, and felt that Germany was the wave of the future).
 

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Yet the compartimentalists have thus far clearly won in the discussion of Charles Lindbergh (who was an ardent supporter of American First, and felt that Germany was the wave of the future).
During WW II, the U.S. sent Lindbergh to the Pacific and not the European theatre. As far as we know, Lindbergh despite his beliefs never fired a shot in anger at the U.S. and never betrayed the U.S. like Snowden and the Rosenbergs.
 

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This is the almost sterotypical argument as to whether or not it is fair to compartmentalize. In this case the non-compartimentalists have won (she was a Nazi, hence we can't honour her aviation achievements). Yet the compartimentalists have thus far clearly won in the discussion of Charles Lindbergh (who was an ardent supporter of American First, and felt that Germany was the wave of the future).
In fact there's no reason her aviation achievements couldn't have been honoured, just as Wagner's music was played. What is unacceptable is the conscious attempt to conceal and ignore the less creditable parts of history, in the primitive and mistaken belief that heroes can and must be without flaw or error.

Had the organizers been matter of fact and candid — with themselves and their audience — about her wartime politics and connections, they could easily have withstood the objections of the over-excited. As they say, 'truth will make you free'. Secrecy makes you its prisoner. We've long known Lindbergh was an American fascist, one of many thousand in the population. Only idiots claim that tarnishes his achievement as an aviation pioneer. The rest of us say, "We know; nothing to do with being a great pilot".

The organizers of this event inadvertantly made it about what they covered up, instead of what they wanted to celebrate. Too bad they didn't see it coming, but credit for seeing they'd gone wrong.
 

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During WW II, the U.S. sent Lindbergh to the Pacific and not the European theatre. As far as we know, Lindbergh despite his beliefs never fired a shot in anger at the U.S. and never betrayed the U.S. like Snowden and the Rosenbergs.
He was a Tech Rep for United Aircraft company and surreptitiously flew combat missions. He had sought to be recommissioned in the USAAF, but on the direct order of FDR this was refused.
 

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This is the almost sterotypical argument as to whether or not it is fair to compartmentalize. In this case the non-compartimentalists have won (she was a Nazi, hence we can't honour her aviation achievements). Yet the compartimentalists have thus far clearly won in the discussion of Charles Lindbergh (who was an ardent supporter of American First, and felt that Germany was the wave of the future).
Seriously??????????

You are considering participation in an antiwar group to be equivalent to being a Nazi???

My god, you have completely lost your marbles.

I certainly disagree with the AFC and in fact think the US should have gone to war much earlier, but I don't think most of the members of that group were Nazis or Nazi sympathisers.

If anything many were proto Trump voters who thought the US should focus on itself and not get involved in wars to benefit foreign powers.

Lindbergh himself gave a speech condemning the treatment of Jews in Germany while saying he didn't think going to war would help.

He may have been wrong, I certainly think he was wrong, but he wasn't a Nazi.
 

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He had sought to be recommissioned in the USAAF, but on the direct order of FDR this was refused.
Declined because he was too old. Also, it would be bad PR if he flew combat and was killed or captured by the enemy.

P.S. Still trying to track down the rumour that only one of the pilots who attacked Pearl Harbor survived the war alive.
 

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Declined because he was too old. Also, it would be bad PR if he flew combat and was killed or captured by the enemy.
He was only 43, William J. Donovan was 58.

As a civilian Tech Rep, he flew with VMF-222 (USMC) including a strafing mission in the vicinity of Rabaul, the 433rd Fighter Squadron (USAAF) and the 433rd Fighter Squadron where flying a P-38 Lighting he shot dow a Japanese Observation aircraft. He got away with this because the Supreme Allied Commander, South West Pacific Area General Douglas MacArthur liked him and was no fan of FDR's.

It is well known that FDR despised him for his vociferous activities with America First and told the Secretary of War in no uncertain terms that his request for his reserve commission (Colonel) to be reactivated was not to be responded to.
 

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Declined because he was too old. Also, it would be bad PR if he flew combat and was killed or captured by the enemy.

P.S. Still trying to track down the rumour that only one of the pilots who attacked Pearl Harbor survived the war alive.
Very likely. The IJN Air Corps was pretty much annihilated in the course of the war.
 

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This is the almost sterotypical argument as to whether or not it is fair to compartmentalize. In this case the non-compartimentalists have won (she was a Nazi, hence we can't honour her aviation achievements). Yet the compartimentalists have thus far clearly won in the discussion of Charles Lindbergh (who was an ardent supporter of American First, and felt that Germany was the wave of the future).
Sure. We could also use the results of the Nazi "studies" on hypothermia or high altitude survival, etc. We just have to compartmentalize. Maybe the fact that she remained a stone, cold Nazi to the day she died, I don't know, should've given the misguided Canadians a hint?
 

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Sure. We could also use the results of the Nazi "studies" on hypothermia or high altitude survival
I hate to tell you but in fact Western Air Forces, and I'm willing to bet the Russian Air Force as well HAVE used those studies.
 
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