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Here are the stats for the winter of 2020/21 (from Our World in Data)

Deaths 8,105
Vaccination rates at March 20, 2021
Two dose 1.8%
One dose 8.7%

Here are the stats for the winter of 2021/22 (from Our World in Data)

Deaths: 7,354 (9.3% reduction from prior year)
Vaccination rates at March 20, 2022
3+ doses 47.6%
Two dose 81.8%
One dose 85.9%

Correct me if I'm wrong but I could have sworn that Pfizer and Moderna were touting their 'vaccine' as being 90% effective in reducing severe hospitalizations/deaths. Seems that they were just a tad off on their calculations :rolleyes:
 
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K Douglas said:
Here are the stats for the winter of 2020/21 (from Our World in Data)

Deaths 8,105
Vaccination rates at March 20, 2021
Two dose 1.8%
One dose 8.7%

Here are the stats for the winter of 2021/22 (from Our World in Data)

Deaths: 7,354 (9.3% reduction from prior year)
Vaccination rates at March 20, 2022
3+ doses 47.6%
Two dose 81.8%
One dose 85.9%

Correct me if I'm wrong but I could have sworn that Pfizer and Moderna were touting their 'vaccine' as being 90% effective in reducing severe hospitalizations/deaths. Seems that they were just a tad off on their calculations :rolleyes:
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How many were infected in these two periods? Is one about 10x the other? You are so close to a breakthrough here in understanding ratios.
 
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benstt said:
How many were infected in these two periods? Is one about 10x the other? You are so close to a breakthrough here in understanding ratios.
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10x? Hey we're not measuring dick size here. The infections are about 4.2x as high this past winter. A further indictment of the effectiveness of the 'vaccines'.
 
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10x? Hey we're not measuring dick size here. The infections are about 4.2x as high this past winter. A further indictment of the effectiveness of the 'vaccines'.
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You are almost there! If deaths are the numerator and infections are the denominator, which winter has the better ratio of deaths per infection? Could it be the one with the higher vaccination rates?

Really rooting for you here. You can do this.
 
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benstt said:
You are almost there! If deaths are the numerator and infections are the denominator, which winter has the better ratio of deaths per infection? Could it be the one with the higher vaccination rates?

Really rooting for you here. You can do this.
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You do realize that the point of a vaccine is to 1) minimize the amount of infections and 2) reduce the levels of serious illness/death if you are infected. The mRNA 'vaccines' clearly failed on 1 and did marginally well on 2 as we did have less severe hospitalizations and a small reduction in deaths. However, that could be because the virus weakened as time passed.

Bottom line is nobody with an ounce of common sense can look at the data and say that the 'vaccines' were successful.
 
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You do realize that the point of a vaccine is to 1) minimize the amount of infections and 2) reduce the levels of serious illness/death if you are infected. The mRNA 'vaccines' clearly failed on 1 and did marginally well on 2 as we did have less severe hospitalizations and a small reduction in deaths. However, that could be because the virus weakened as time passed.

Bottom line is nobody with an ounce of common sense can look at the data and say that the 'vaccines' were successful.
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Oh my, you were so close to understanding that 1) your data can't be used to show whether infections decreased or not as a rate of the population exposed and 2) your data will show that that serious harm decreased per infection if you actually learn what a ratio is.

I'm only undecided if you are really this fucking stupid or actually smart and expect people to be stupid and believe your crap. You posted this and have doubled down twice, so it's not looking good.
 
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No fallacy. The 'vaccines' don't work like big pharma and their gov't/media sycophants said they would. Want evidence look no further than South Korea. Record cases and record deaths daily.
 
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Updating the first month of spring comparisons

March 21-April 20, 2021: 1,316 deaths
March 21-April 20, 2022 - 1,684 deaths (increase of 28%)

April 20, 2021 vaccination status. 2 doses 2.6%, 1 dose 25.3%
April 20, 2022 vaccination status: 3+ doses 48.7%, 2 doses 82.2%, 1 dose 87.7%
 
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K Douglas said:
No fallacy. The 'vaccines' don't work like big pharma and their gov't/media sycophants said they would. Want evidence look no further than South Korea. Record cases and record deaths daily.
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Don't understand math and don't understand what a fallacy is?



BTW. You guys keep talking about covid only affecting old people so...
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Far higher death rate for the unvaccinated the entire time.
 
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Don't understand math and don't understand what a fallacy is?



BTW. You guys keep talking about covid only affecting old people so...
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Far higher death rate for the unvaccinated the entire time.
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Deaths 'involving' covid19 is a misleading metric. It should be deaths primarily caused by covid19 infection. BTW where did you source that graph from?
I would argue that my math comprehension skills are far more advanced than yours friend. But keep trying.
Over 60 vaccination status in Canada
60-69: 93.7% are at least 2 doses
70-79: 96.6% are at least 2 doses
80+: 97.7% at least 2 doses

Therefore a very small portion of that demographic are not 'vaccinated'. Most not by choice btw, they have underlying health conditions that preclude them from taking the 'vaccine'. Easy to see skewed results like this.
 
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May 21 update

Covid-19 deaths in Canada are now up 45.9% from Mar 22-May 21 year over year. Keep boosting. :rolleyes:

DateDeaths Sars-Cov2DateDeaths Sars-Cov2
22-Mar-215822-Mar-2235
23-Mar-211923-Mar-2242
24-Mar-212524-Mar-2275
25-Mar-213925-Mar-2243
26-Mar-214426-Mar-2245
27-Mar-213627-Mar-229
28-Mar-212828-Mar-2223
29-Mar-212329-Mar-2234
30-Mar-213730-Mar-2253
31-Mar-214231-Mar-2259
1-Apr-21431-Apr-2260
2-Apr-2162-Apr-2215
3-Apr-21283-Apr-227
4-Apr-21494-Apr-2213
5-Apr-21485-Apr-2251
6-Apr-21716-Apr-2243
7-Apr-21327-Apr-2241
8-Apr-21458-Apr-2242
9-Apr-21569-Apr-2262
10-Apr-216710-Apr-2241
11-Apr-214211-Apr-2262
12-Apr-214012-Apr-2262
13-Apr-216413-Apr-22261
14-Apr-216814-Apr-22128
15-Apr-216915-Apr-22128
16-Apr-214016-Apr-2266
17-Apr-215917-Apr-2221
18-Apr-213518-Apr-2232
19-Apr-215819-Apr-2229
20-Apr-214520-Apr-22102
21-Apr-211121-Apr-22120
22-Apr-214722-Apr-2265
23-Apr-216023-Apr-2252
24-Apr-214024-Apr-2225
25-Apr-214425-Apr-2215
26-Apr-216826-Apr-2253
27-Apr-214027-Apr-22110
28-Apr-215328-Apr-22133
29-Apr-213329-Apr-2253
30-Apr-215230-Apr-2234
1-May-21411-May-2222
2-May-21292-May-224
3-May-21483-May-2253
4-May-21524-May-22138
5-May-21255-May-22153
6-May-21396-May-2243
7-May-21377-May-2253
8-May-21358-May-2210
9-May-21319-May-224
10-May-215010-May-2260
11-May-214111-May-22132
12-May-214212-May-22155
13-May-215813-May-2290
14-May-212814-May-2211
15-May-212515-May-223
16-May-213516-May-226
17-May-213217-May-2240
18-May-212618-May-2297
19-May-215119-May-22208
20-May-213520-May-2289
21-May-213621-May-2220
2,560​
3,735​
45.9%​
 
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K Douglas said:
May 21 update

Covid-19 deaths in Canada are now up 45.9% from Mar 22-May 21 year over year. Keep boosting. :rolleyes:

DateDeaths Sars-Cov2DateDeaths Sars-Cov2
22-Mar-215822-Mar-2235
23-Mar-211923-Mar-2242
24-Mar-212524-Mar-2275
25-Mar-213925-Mar-2243
26-Mar-214426-Mar-2245
27-Mar-213627-Mar-229
28-Mar-212828-Mar-2223
29-Mar-212329-Mar-2234
30-Mar-213730-Mar-2253
31-Mar-214231-Mar-2259
1-Apr-21431-Apr-2260
2-Apr-2162-Apr-2215
3-Apr-21283-Apr-227
4-Apr-21494-Apr-2213
5-Apr-21485-Apr-2251
6-Apr-21716-Apr-2243
7-Apr-21327-Apr-2241
8-Apr-21458-Apr-2242
9-Apr-21569-Apr-2262
10-Apr-216710-Apr-2241
11-Apr-214211-Apr-2262
12-Apr-214012-Apr-2262
13-Apr-216413-Apr-22261
14-Apr-216814-Apr-22128
15-Apr-216915-Apr-22128
16-Apr-214016-Apr-2266
17-Apr-215917-Apr-2221
18-Apr-213518-Apr-2232
19-Apr-215819-Apr-2229
20-Apr-214520-Apr-22102
21-Apr-211121-Apr-22120
22-Apr-214722-Apr-2265
23-Apr-216023-Apr-2252
24-Apr-214024-Apr-2225
25-Apr-214425-Apr-2215
26-Apr-216826-Apr-2253
27-Apr-214027-Apr-22110
28-Apr-215328-Apr-22133
29-Apr-213329-Apr-2253
30-Apr-215230-Apr-2234
1-May-21411-May-2222
2-May-21292-May-224
3-May-21483-May-2253
4-May-21524-May-22138
5-May-21255-May-22153
6-May-21396-May-2243
7-May-21377-May-2253
8-May-21358-May-2210
9-May-21319-May-224
10-May-215010-May-2260
11-May-214111-May-22132
12-May-214212-May-22155
13-May-215813-May-2290
14-May-212814-May-2211
15-May-212515-May-223
16-May-213516-May-226
17-May-213217-May-2240
18-May-212618-May-2297
19-May-215119-May-22208
20-May-213520-May-2289
21-May-213621-May-2220
2,560​
3,735​
45.9%​
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Base rate fallacy - Wikipedia

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As most of these individuals aren't vaccinated, I really could care less what happens to them.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.
 
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Final spring comparisons (2021 vs. 2022)

Mar 21 to June 21, 2021

Total Covid19 deaths: 3,238
Total infections: 464,793
Avg. mortality rate: 0.7%

Mar 21 to June 21, 2022

Total Covid19 deaths 4,882 (up 49% from prior yr)
Total infections 696,808 (up 49.9% from prior yr)
Avg. mortality rate 0.7%

49% more deaths despite some of the highest vaccination rates in the world. Mortality rate the same. So much for your base rate fallacy nonsense :rolleyes:
 
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K is still trying to figure out what the base rate fallacy is. So cute.

The data clearly shows that vaccinated people fare much better than the unvaccinated. And is it really confusing that a more virulent strain infected more people?
 
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